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✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »Discounting the constant stream of "we were outnumbered" when it isn't so most of the time.
Most AD I know would rather fight DC. It's funner fights regardless of the outcome or numbers. So when the opportunity knocks, we all come running... and it's not to defend Azuras.
Any time you are stuck dealing with a red population it's a guarantee that they will summon the zerg ball. If you beat the zerg ball, they will summon another zerg ball, if you manage to defeat the balls of zerg eventually they will summon the lag overlord. Who wants to play like that?
Many of us spend our pvp nights switching servers to not have to deal with EP with chaos derived monikers. It's obvious that it isn't about small scale group fights or even large scale group fights with them. It's about destroying the game for everyone involved.
There is always this DC should team up with EP in the background. DC would be better served teaming up with AD and driving the EP to their gates and then having some good old yellow versus blue fun. What usually happens is you get coordinated attacks by DC and EP that drive AD to the gates, and now you have to fight the lag inducers. Better you than us, but you might sometimes think about who you have more fun fighting; you can even pose it as the fictional "how much you kick our butts" like usual.
Gotta say I agree with you here. I would give anything to see a coordinated AD/DC punishment brought to EP on every server. I've even suggested this to many AD guild leads. They are full of a lot of double speak, though. For example, on TB- we pushed to bleakers with the intent to roll ep to their gates-only to see a massive influx of Ad back capping bleakers and stopping us. <eyeroll>0 -
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✭✭✭✭Therfennell_ESO wrote: »Discounting the constant stream of "we were outnumbered" when it isn't so most of the time.
Most AD I know would rather fight DC. It's funner fights regardless of the outcome or numbers. So when the opportunity knocks, we all come running... and it's not to defend Azuras.
Any time you are stuck dealing with a red population it's a guarantee that they will summon the zerg ball. If you beat the zerg ball, they will summon another zerg ball, if you manage to defeat the balls of zerg eventually they will summon the lag overlord. Who wants to play like that?
Many of us spend our pvp nights switching servers to not have to deal with EP with chaos derived monikers. It's obvious that it isn't about small scale group fights or even large scale group fights with them. It's about destroying the game for everyone involved.
There is always this DC should team up with EP in the background. DC would be better served teaming up with AD and driving the EP to their gates and then having some good old yellow versus blue fun. What usually happens is you get coordinated attacks by DC and EP that drive AD to the gates, and now you have to fight the lag inducers. Better you than us, but you might sometimes think about who you have more fun fighting; you can even pose it as the fictional "how much you kick our butts" like usual.
How is DC not outnumbered most of the time on azura? There hasnt been a single point in this campaign where DC actually had more people than AD. Theres been 2x where pop numbers were even, one of them was last night for about 20mins. The other time is when DC crowned emp once on this cycle. Last night was actually not bad when Decibel and another group came to only have 1 bar advantage. Typically it would have been pop locked by the time Ash was attacked. Conversely, LoM was there to aid as well, whereas the only group Azuras ever really puts forth is NPK.
FENGRUSH can get behind the points of avoiding servers with lag, that is why He has stationed himself on the smaller servers. And FENGRUSH prefers to fight anyone who isnt creating lag or massing full raid groups to knowingly fight 3 or less people at a time. The 2nd option is hit or miss, but lag can be avoided most of the time on azuras. If you believe FENGRUSH is telling fictional stories of butts being kicked, then you are simply discrediting The Lord because you cannot accept the glory of FENGRUSH. But that is why He continues to come back and show you the way. One day you will come to appreciate all of the wonderful experiences FENGRUSH has brought to your formerly simple and mundane lives.1 -
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✭✭God_flakes wrote: »
Gotta say I agree with you here. I would give anything to see a coordinated AD/DC punishment brought to EP on every server. I've even suggested this to many AD guild leads. They are full of a lot of double speak, though. For example, on TB- we pushed to bleakers with the intent to roll ep to their gates-only to see a massive influx of Ad back capping bleakers and stopping us. <eyeroll>
I speak for no one but myself. But I know I'm not the only one that just doesn't want to deal with EP at all.. it's not fun, and when it is... well, it won't be fun for long. The chillrend days of yore, where blue vampires galour... put up fights worth fighting, without the EP a-zerging. That was fun, regardless of the outcome. EP can go find some tower to spam abilities in somewhere, or take some meaningless home keep and destroy the 3rd floor stairs to "farm teh AP".
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RadioheadSh0t✭✭✭✭✭Yea there was some fun fights, was fun all night all over the map. But to be clear, it was 2 bar vs 2 bar for about 20mins and the battles became pretty 1 sided for DC steamrolling.
Then AD groups swing in and play a numbers game again (as it is 95% of the time in azura). The emp group told FENGRUSH they 'were only 8 people' as well, and somehow they had no idea decibel was ever even there.
Even if DC crowned an emp, it would be flipped before noon tomorrow guaranteed. If AD doesnt take it overnight, Herpaderp runs with a solid 20man group to shamefully cruise through empty keeps every morning. So the whole 'defending an emperor' is a moot point - campaign is also already won for AD.
You guys say youre leaving, but then you just happen to show up to defend emperors with numbers advantage and an emp (mostly irrelevant in this case) but theyve got all the buffs going for you too. The fights were enjoyable, but dont pretend to be interested in giving a waning and underpopulated faction a fair shot at PvPing. Its a constant uphill battle on DC, but you went out of your way tonight to ensure that, and Lord FENGRUSH is disappointed in you.bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.
For the nth time, we are leaving haha
But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.
You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.
BUT LORD. I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER.
I am defending a friends emperorship, not mine. It is only righteous that I defend, and we were never higher than 14. Fights were good.
Why do you choose to defend that type of emperorship rather than attempting to crown an emp on a server with equal numbers? Just seems like you're running from competition at this point.
Oh you mean like when we took most the keeps on chillrend, but decided to come back and defend a guildie?
At this point, pretty sure everyone is linked together by a series of guilds on the other factions. Ironically, the guildie you came to defend is in a different group that had no idea that your guild is even there. Apparently they were so used to sieging empty DC keeps that they didnt realize all of the DC left on the server were stuck fighting decibel and others down south.
But FENGRUSH would not say decibel is running from competition at all. It makes sense for them to come and hop in on defense for AP. But to say youve left the server (unless the server becomes contested) is a load. Theres no other times for you to be there, unless you want to capture keeps with a 20 man group against 2-3 DC with an emperor. Theres a reason you end up only frequenting azura once in a blue moon to defend emp - because people dont want to come back when decibel is on standby to come in with other groups as needed to defend the place with overwhelming numbers against a faction that simply cant put out those numbers on other servers.
Ultimately, if you have a magicka sorc that is losing emp when its 2bars vs 2bars - maybe he deserves to lose emp.
Well my lord, I do not know what to say. All points you bring up are valid, but as an emp (magicka btw) I know I didn't love being dethroned, but when I saw it happen (and I did not defend one bit that night) I was happy because I knew who would get it.
Here is how decibel sees it. Our home campaign (due to the timeline) is getting smashed by even fights. 2 bars vs 2 bars. Is it wrong for us to show up and fight for a friend and defend his emp? Sure he has had it alot, but still, I wont hand a throne over ever and neither would the lord. Idk, I just dont see an issue with it, more that DC wants their server back. IMO they can take it, but don't want it.
PS: Ive seen alot of beef on Herk, however hes a pretty amazing player and a phenomenal group play emperor.Hes a selfless player that is 100% interested in what the group needs opposed to his output.
From what I have seen, DC and EP needs alot more of those players.
Are you insinuating that DC does not have enough herpaderps to be victorious?
The Lord FENGRUSH has provided you with insights to carry on your journeys. Ultimately, you would have done more for your friend if you allowed DC to capture emp. Then Herp would have to capture the ring and feel an overwhelming sense of accomplishment in doing so versus his routine guard slaying. Also, he would have gained an extra CP to ensure his unmatched strengths as a magicka sorc emp. Instead youve diminished everyones experience for your own selfish gains. Your reputation is rapidly plunging towards Agrippa levels!
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JDar✭✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »The two big DC guilds stay apart so we don't have these issues. Maybe the AD leaders should task a similar, responsible path.
I guess winning with the lag is fun for AD. There is no honor in winning a campaign like this.
DC won the last two cycles fighting with mostly lower pops. Get on our level.
I am necro-ing this thread so we can re-evaluate the truthiness of this concept in a post-Chuck Norris post-VE-reroll light.Edited by JDar on July 6, 2015 10:36PM2 -
Sile✭✭✭From a DC pov, teamwork between guilds varies, though generally as a whole it's pretty good in people talking to each other, even if they don't actually like another group leader, I've found they're always willing to set aside differences to do business.
I think the biggest issue on DC tbh is just a lack of strong leaders - I've seen groups be afraid to engage or back up other groups. There's also a mentality of "I'm good, I don't see a need or want to improve because I am so good". smh.
It seems like such a huge amount of DC have a fear of dying in a video game, and would rather sit on a rock or under a tree watching glorious brave heroes of the covenant die valiantly, only to get popped out of stealth and die anyway.
I had a great time on AS weekend before last when it was Havoc, Shortbus, and Decibel(I think, could have been TKG, could have been both) having a 3 way over at Nikel for a good two hours. It was really fun to have to really work the positioning against multiple different hostiles in the same fight.Gondor
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Observant✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »The two big DC guilds stay apart so we don't have these issues. Maybe the AD leaders should task a similar, responsible path.
I guess winning with the lag is fun for AD. There is no honor in winning a campaign like this.
DC won the last two cycles fighting with mostly lower pops. Get on our level.
I am necro-ing this thread so we can re-evaluate the truthiness of this concept in a post-Chuck Norris post-VE-reroll light.
Where was that 3bar pop AD last night? You guys gotta quit ERPing during prime time!Edited by Observant on July 7, 2015 12:33PMVehemence0 -
CN_Daniel✭✭✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »The two big DC guilds stay apart so we don't have these issues. Maybe the AD leaders should task a similar, responsible path.
I guess winning with the lag is fun for AD. There is no honor in winning a campaign like this.
DC won the last two cycles fighting with mostly lower pops. Get on our level.
I am necro-ing this thread so we can re-evaluate the truthiness of this concept in a post-Chuck Norris post-VE-reroll light.
I mean, we sat there for like 45 days taking it....Did you not expect a response?0 -
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✭✭NPK Daniel wrote: »The two big DC guilds stay apart so we don't have these issues. Maybe the AD leaders should task a similar, responsible path.
I guess winning with the lag is fun for AD. There is no honor in winning a campaign like this.
DC won the last two cycles fighting with mostly lower pops. Get on our level.
I am necro-ing this thread so we can re-evaluate the truthiness of this concept in a post-Chuck Norris post-VE-reroll light.
I cannot speak for CN. But VE has had about 16 when we run; with at least 1/3 being below v14. At max capacity we run 24, and never any more.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭From a DC pov, teamwork between guilds varies, though generally as a whole it's pretty good in people talking to each other, even if they don't actually like another group leader, I've found they're always willing to set aside differences to do business.
I think the biggest issue on DC tbh is just a lack of strong leaders - I've seen groups be afraid to engage or back up other groups. There's also a mentality of "I'm good, I don't see a need or want to improve because I am so good". smh.
It seems like such a huge amount of DC have a fear of dying in a video game, and would rather sit on a rock or under a tree watching glorious brave heroes of the covenant die valiantly, only to get popped out of stealth and die anyway.
I had a great time on AS weekend before last when it was Havoc, Shortbus, and Decibel(I think, could have been TKG, could have been both) having a 3 way over at Nikel for a good two hours. It was really fun to have to really work the positioning against multiple different hostiles in the same fight.
In my opinion the strong leadership is there, its just missing the following:
- a player base that's not already on the playing board (meaning not enough new players to help replace burnt out veterans.)
- 24/7 support across all time zones.
- enough guilds to keep a few campaigns competitive.
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