Is the dungeon finder broken YES or NO?!

  • GNLDeathwing557
    came across this problem myself recently dungeon finder has been taking hours upon hours to find people with no matches ever occurring. I have myself marked as tank / dps. never received a group as of late. Previously I used to find groups all the time. something is definatly wrong here if the group finder isn't paring groups for dungeons together.
  • Julianos
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    yes its broken i was vet and other 2 player were vet too and finder invited level 15 player to our party
  • Peekachu99
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    Clearly broken. Needs to be built again from the ground up and not just get a fresh coat of paint as with the console UI. I bet you its just as buggy on console--there simply weren't enough players to test it.
  • Valymer
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  • NadiusMaximus
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    Well, let's see.

    Three gullies and I stood in a circle.
    Each qued for the same dungeon, all normal vet level.
    Each picked the roll we were built for. 1 healer, 1 tank, 2 dps.
    None of us were picked up by others, or placed in a group that we were clearly ready for.
    So, yah, it's broken. Want a video of it? Or are you guys gonna try it yourself?
    I still think the version of the game being played and used to test in house at ZOS is different than the one that is live. It's the only way to explain what's going on between " it's not happening on our side" (zos) and, " This is broken and has never worked" (almost everyone else)
    Edited by NadiusMaximus on May 18, 2015 11:54AM
  • Praxxos
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    Enter the crown store, type into the coupon field #givemeaworkinglfgtool and you can buy it for 50.000 crowns. A Premium version of the LFG tool with instant group invites and if you are missing a player in the group, a ZOS employee will play a class/race character of your choice.
    Edited by Praxxos on May 18, 2015 12:04PM
  • MissyMad
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    pecheckler wrote: »
    For hours there have been arguments in zone chat debating between the group finder just being "broke" and it not working because "nobody uses it".

    Which is it?

    I have confirmed with nearly 15 people this evening that they have been queued for hours for veteran dungeons and not getting matched with anyone. The dungeon finder used to work great in the couple months after launch when I played previously. What has happened?

    We cannot be expected to stand around in a town's zone chat manually searching for players. Such tediousness hasn't been part of MMO games in 10 years.

    Edit 04/25 : Nearly a month ago I received a non-canned response to a customer support ticket regarding issues with the group finder taking hours to find players. Normally the response is just to them telling me to type /bug and report the issue then they close my ticket. This time I received what I consider actual acknowledgement of the problem and a request for more information. I'll let you be the judge (see spoiler). Note I did lots of testing with other players and replied answering the questions which were asked of me but then the next day when I received yet another identical copy-pasted response from a different customer service representative just asking me to submit a /bug report again instead of someone acknowledging receipt of my troubleshooting steps. Talk about some seriously horrible customer support.
    Response By Email (Lindsay) (03/31/2015 04:16 PM)
    Greetings!

    Thanks for contacting us regarding the issue you are encountering with the Group Finding Tool. I would be more than happy to provide you with some additional information regarding this feature.

    Some players may experience an issue when using the Looking for Group function in which they never succeed in finding a group. This can occur when players either do not have a role selected when they begin the search or they start a search with one role but then attempt to change to another before the search ends. Players can bypass this issue by selecting their desired role before they begin a Looking for Group search and not switching to another role before the search completes.
    If you're not able to form any group using the tool, can you please provide the following information so it can be submitted to the developers for the investigation.
    What role(s) you picked
    What activity you chose, and in which location if applicable
    Your class and level
    Were you queued for PvP at the same time
    This is currently a known issue that our team continues to work on. We appreciate your patience while we work on this. If you have any additional questions, don't hesitate to let us know and we would be more than happy to help out with those as well. :D
    Warm Regards,
    Lindsay
    The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Team

    You can find information regarding The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited and tons more on our official support page at https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/ !





    The problem is that a majority people A. Don't use it at all or B. Don't even know about it - from my experience. I've run into a large number of players - vets even whom have apparently played for some time that were unaware of the option.
    You stink of death my friend, I salute you.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    It's broken to the point that it's just so much easier and faster to ask in zone chat if anyone is interested in helping you do dungeon X or dolmen y, usually only takes 10 mins or so to get a group that way.
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  • pecheckler
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    I'm switching to console for one reason only and that is a fast effective group finder. I hope the console version group finder is added to PC just like controller support is going to be.
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • Yasha
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    Imo it doesn't work properly.

    There seems to be a few problems with it, one thing I have experienced a few times is the finder getting stuck on 3 people for ages, then as soon as I find a fourth player in zone chat it immediately puts a fifth player in from the finder. It doesn't just "work" like similar tools in other mmos I have played.
  • pecheckler
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    Good evening Zenimax,

    Please publicly acknowledge this issue or publicly correct the statements made by your support staff confirming the group finder is not working properly. Continuing to ignore this major problem has lead to many arguments by players and of course continued disappointment. This week's reddit thread on the topic is split nearly 50/50 on belief whether or not the group finder is broken.
    Edited by pecheckler on May 20, 2015 10:41PM
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • djnapstyb14_ESO
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    Does work. Needs help
    EP FOR LIFE
  • Alphashado
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    The whole thing is a giant cluster f***.

    Honestly it doesn't matter why it's not working. It doesn't matter if it's broken, not being used, not being used correctly, or all of the above. What matters is that it's not putting groups together on a consistant, reliable basis. Period.

    This is on ZoS no matter how you spin it. There is no excuse for an MMO in 2015 to have a disfunctional grouping tool.

    If it IS working properly (despite what CS says), then ZoS needs to give us some RA RA pep talks including a video of it working properly and large, loud announcements encouraging everyone to use it.

    if it is NOT working properly, then ZOS needs to make a formal announcement to at least formally acknowledge that it's not working properly and loudly ensure everyone that the matter is being looked into and they are addressing it as soon as possible.

    The fact that they haven't said a WORD about it for months and months, despite overwhelming negative feedback is amazingly poor customer service, and bad PR.

    What I am secretly hoping is that they are testing a complete LFG tool overhaul with consoles and their plan is to convert PC to the same system if it works correctly.
    Edited by Alphashado on May 20, 2015 11:34PM
  • todokete
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    God this goes back to ancient times
  • ArchMikem
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    Whenever I attempt to use the Finder, it puts me into a group. Sometimes it says someone declines, sometimes it takes me over a half hour because I queued as a DPS. But it inevitably finds me a group.

    Therefore by definition, it's not broken.
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  • Artim_X
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Whenever I attempt to use the Finder, it puts me into a group. Sometimes it says someone declines, sometimes it takes me over a half hour because I queued as a DPS. But it inevitably finds me a group.

    Therefore by definition, it's not broken.

    ^ this also gd necros grrr I hope the guards lock them all up!
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    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
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  • dazee
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    Yes. This isn't even a question.
    Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
  • ArchMikem
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    todokete wrote: »
    God this goes back to ancient times

    Oh thank you so much for suckering me into a necro. The Group Finder is still such a hot topic these days it never occurred to me this was an old thread. I just thought someone else was complaining again.
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