I think the OP's idea is BRILLIANT. ESO needs more opportunities for spontaneous, unstructured grouping!

Rune_Relic wrote: »

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Thymos wrote: »

Level appropriate rewards would be fine, perhaps maybe a new way to share some new item sets.

Would also be cool to see a few roaming in Cyrodiil.

Interesting thought for Cyrodiil, since it always comes up when scroll running to do a dolmen, might be to place a scroll at an ayleid ruin to spawn a major boss? I could see that being fun and a major fight spot as well. Imagine a world boss you need to fight with combinations of dps, tanks, healers, siege and against the 3 way fight of the other alliances =3

I like the idea of scrolls kicking this off.
After all these are powerful artefacts....surely parties other than the 3 factions would also be interested in gaining hold of these for their own nefarious purposes.
BUT....I dont think this is really that fair for the PVE community.

Unfortunately the PvP community has not seen any kind of major successful attention in terms of content. It would be interesting sight.
I do wonder if the the factions would actually help to defeat the beast, our simply whack each other for control over it.
Unfortunately with ideas like these we simply must assume a worst case scenario, being the strongest faction would maintain control of the area, camp the boss, wipe all who come near then take the boss. /worstcasescenario
The trick Would be not to make the reward game breaking, but to also make it worth fighting for.
The Dev tight-rope.

Thymos wrote: »

rajaniemiorama_ESO wrote: »

Thymos wrote: »

rajaniemiorama_ESO wrote: »

This game desperately needs a reason to group in PvE without forcing them to do it just for a grind.
One per faction or zone would be great.
Make it big enough that people find it challenging.
Make the fight epic enough to need a large group.
Make it fun so people want to do it in the first place.
Make it rewarding enough that people want to do it again.
And do not require grouping just to do it.
As many have already pointed out, old school dolmens are the way to go on this.

We should definitely discuss pros and cons to this.

Of course. Sort of like a enraged timer from other games would be good. So once the fight begins, if it is not settled after a certain allotment of time, then the boss gets enraged, increasing power and defense. This makes it so it just doesn't become a long chore that can be done with enough healers.

That could work. The idea is to allow an on the spot Pug to complete it, but not easily.
Should the difficulty scale based on the average level of players involved? Perhaps to the average of the highest 50%? Or perhaps it should remain static like dolmens?

I would have it be static if it's going to include 1 in every region. Overlevelled people don't really get to benefit from it, but can come to help.

I think over leveled people should benefit somewhat. There Are some zones that are downright boring and don't see many players (shadowfen).
Also would be a good reason for vets to revisit.

I can't make myself vote, I don't care what bossfights we do and how hard it is - I am tired of the "rare reward" system, RGN is really annoying. I want to earn my rewards

Make it harder or easier, but dammit give me my shoulders, helmets, rings, slaves and robes.

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

I can't make myself vote, I don't care what bossfights we do and how hard it is - I am tired of the "rare reward" system, RGN is really annoying. I want to earn my rewards

Make it harder or easier, but dammit give me my shoulders, helmets, rings, slaves and robes.

What carrot & stick would you want then? Better EXP? Better siege weapons (like Cyrodiil dolmens)? Tokens?

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

I can't make myself vote, I don't care what bossfights we do and how hard it is - I am tired of the "rare reward" system, RGN is really annoying. I want to earn my rewards

Make it harder or easier, but dammit give me my shoulders, helmets, rings, slaves and robes.

To be perfectly honest, I really don't care about whether there is or isn't a rare reward or anything to go along with something like this. I'd like to see it just for the fun of having a whole bunch of players come together to take it down.

Tandor wrote: »

So if you don't want a "rare reward" system but want all those items, what are you going to do the moment you have them? Complain about the lack of content?

They're a time sink, and no MMO can last without time sinks, otherwise everyone "completes" the game in a matter of days or weeks and then they move on to the next unsatisfying thing.

Mmo's can be a timesink if the community is good enough for players to stick in it. I have grown fairly tired of the game, and don't even lvl up my alts since grind has been nerfed into oblivion ....

UrQuan wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, I really don't care about whether there is or isn't a rare reward or anything to go along with something like this. I'd like to see it just for the fun of having a whole bunch of players come together to take it down.

They do have dolmens in this game xD

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, I really don't care about whether there is or isn't a rare reward or anything to go along with something like this. I'd like to see it just for the fun of having a whole bunch of players come together to take it down.

They do have dolmens in this game xD

Yeah, but they can be soloed or duoed (is that even a word?).

UrQuan wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, I really don't care about whether there is or isn't a rare reward or anything to go along with something like this. I'd like to see it just for the fun of having a whole bunch of players come together to take it down.

They do have dolmens in this game xD

Yeah, but they can be soloed or duoed (is that even a word?).

Yeah but not by the players who wear found loot and ornate trait on their weapons, and haven't lvl'ed the good skills yet, or don't know which morphs to choose from. I've met v14 who grinded their way up, and play worse than experienced players who play on their OP geared v1 chars.

I soloed world bosses in v1 area with my lvl 45 sorcerer, while I saw poor v1 sorcerers with pets out struggling to get 1 mob down.

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, I really don't care about whether there is or isn't a rare reward or anything to go along with something like this. I'd like to see it just for the fun of having a whole bunch of players come together to take it down.

They do have dolmens in this game xD

Yeah, but they can be soloed or duoed (is that even a word?).

Yeah but not by the players who wear found loot and ornate trait on their weapons, and haven't lvl'ed the good skills yet, or don't know which morphs to choose from. I've met v14 who grinded their way up, and play worse than experienced players who play on their OP geared v1 chars.

I soloed world bosses in v1 area with my lvl 45 sorcerer, while I saw poor v1 sorcerers with pets out struggling to get 1 mob down.

Well, yeah, I can't disagree with any of that...

I will probably get flamed for this but here goes....


I most definitely would love to have more "big boss" content spread throughout the zones. Especially if they dropped rewards. HOWEVER... I have to dissagree with what seems to be the vast majority that seems to think that just rag tag no grouped characters should be able to fight the boss.

You think Cyrodil lag is bad? oh lordy... wait until you make a mega boss that spawns say once a day?(which i think should be the minimum time for such events). RIP every-bodies framerate cause the whole server will be there hacking away at it. Plus when the whole freakin server is fighting the boss the content becomes less then trivial.

No the only way to keep it challenging would be some sort of force pop methodology where only those in the group of the person that poped said boss would be able to damage it.

These items could be oh i dont know... say a necromancers ancient staff thats been shattered into peices and drop off of several different bosses in or out of dungeons and needs to be put together by a master woodworker. Or say a plate of dragon bait made by a provisioner who has collected various ingredients from several tasty bosses to create.

Item forced World bosses seem to not be a thing anymore in your "millennial MMO" and i really fail to understand why. Frankly me an my mates used to love lowmaning pop bosses with way less people then recommended for the challenge , comradery , and sometimes even prestige.

In short TLDR take your Riddalin and read the GD post. But yes to big world bosses / no to having it be an all zone faceroll

-edit for suck at spellings

I would love that alongside all sorts of events,ESO has too little things happening in the world,Sometimes it can feel a bit.. dull,Guild wars 2 does a great job on making a alive world.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

I am instantly dubious about any idea that includes something like 'other MMos do this so please copy it here'.

It's called familiarity for the sake of the conversation. Otherwise we'd have to explain every little detail and concept, when we can easily just say 'like this other game.' Just about every concept from this game you play right now is similar or "like" a countless amount of other games that already existed, even table top games. So your doubts aren't really sound.

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Playing games like Guild Wars 2, Rift, Warhammer online, and other MMOS, a lot had major group boss events opened to the world that any number of folks could participate in. These lead to their own unique challenges but also led to a lot of farming and grinding for some rare drops. ESO doesn’t really have that right now, the closest thing is dark anchors, which scale up with the challenge but doesn't necessarily offer more reward or challenge. So, what would folks want to see?
Bosses or events that take a larger party?
Events that offer better EXP and can appeal to grinders?
nothing at all because all of that should be instanced?

First of all, your incentive is good as I always loved Warhammer for those open world encounters. The issue however is, that you want to make those encounters "group based" and not open world. If you speak about 4, 12 or 24 players then you have the same broken system that Trials are. Its content no matter how good it is, that only works for a very small amount of players, while the majority (those not in premades) would be left out.

In my opinion, if we add a Warhammer open event system, then so that everyone in the zone can participate. Someone might have to hunt pigs, someone else collects wood and again others fight specific type of Quest NPCs. Let everyone participate and not just those who already have more than enough content at the Dungeons and Trials.

ESO has a open group system, so we should use this one and not fall back to the old WOW system where someone must be in a party or raid to compete.

Just to point out ...you've got already 'world bosses' and 'elites' in game.
First of all every skull on the map is a challenge (IF you're on the same level)
So while questing and leveling up you can always take the challenge of skull and test yourself (doesn't apply to grinders).
In Craglorn you've got 'elites' in many points.
Now, since your gear is great you can solo everything, sure but it was for wet11's and vet13's
...so complaining about no challenge somehow doesn't seem valid.
Let me guess ...you've got all trials completed in hard mode right?