p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

I do not see where is all this fuss about. Those of us who pay their sub as normal, those items are a nice bonus to get.
Also the expansions going to be for free to the subscribers, so who cares a horse costs 25 or 250 or 2500 or 25000 crowns. We do not spend real money to buy those things either way, but the subscription to the game as normal, with the added BONUS of having currency to spend to the crown market.

For those who want to play on the cheap without subscription, they have to cough up realy money (if they can afford it) to buy such vanity items. After all thats how F2P/B2P model is working. But is them who "outright" dismiss to pay for a subscription. Huh. Hypocrisy......

You should be happy that ZoS hasn't implement on the non subs the restrictions similar to SWTOR. Like not been able to use something better than blue gear without sub, significantly reduced rewards, restriction on crafting skills (down to 1 from 3), no access to many areas of the game, until you either buy a sub or pay for those "certifications". And there regardless if you have a sub you have to buy the expansions.

At least in TESO the expansions are included with the subscription package and those of us who have the sub, dont have to pay for it extra (hehe).


So you either pay the sub as game service, and get full access everywhere and as bonus the currency for the crown market, or spend real money on digital items.

However ZoS was damned because of the subscriptions, but damned because of using B2P/F2P model? Huh.
They are business and has to make money to keep the game running and develop new stuff. Not a charity.

This all day long. They are a business, they have to make moeny somehow to keep the game going, quit whining.

Hehe OP, sure others have said, but tbh I did not bother to read through 6 pages, but don`t buy it, simples...

Although tbh some will, there is always people who will.

As the saying goes...

"Build it and they will come", or in this instance, "Create a gimmick and some will buy it".

Fact of life.

People have got to understand. $25 is a lot of money for some but not for others. There are people out there with more money then they know what to do with and parents who buy their high school kids BMW's for their birthday to drive to school. So it's all relative. There are also people out there who regularly buy stuff they can't afford. It's all relative to the person.

Necrelios wrote: »

It makes you wonder how much a full DLC will cost. I'm expecting no less than $150-$200 at this point with little gear slot unlocks and subtle things whittled in here and there that become mandatory in order to remain competitive, if you're a competitive kind of player.

Assuming that there's any relationship at all between the prices of cosmetic items and the prices of DLC is a mistake. They are different target audiences (with overlap between them, of course), and require different pricing/marketing strategies.

Most people playing the game will want to purchase any DLC that comes out (unless they subscribe and don't need to), because if you want to keep playing you're going to want that content. In order to maintain and (hopefully) increase your player base, you need to price DLC reasonably so that the majority of players feel like it's a worthwhile purchase. Depending on the size of the DLC, the price that the majority of players would feel is reasonable will vary, but unless it was truly massive (and maybe not even then) I couldn't see it being anything but an utter marketing failure if it was priced at or above the box price for the base game. Pricing DLC too high could literally kill the game.

The same cannot be said of cosmetic items, because there's a big segment of the player population that flat-out doesn't care about cosmetics. Cosmetic items are marketed to the people who do care about them, and are priced accordingly. People who care about cosmetic items will either fall into the "must get all of them" whale category, or the "I'll get only the things that I think are cool" category (well, there's also the "impulse buyer" category, but that's more relevant when talking about micro-transactions). People in the first category will generally spend whatever the price is, but they are a smaller segment. People in the second category are much more numerous, but pick and choose items based on whether they like them, and also somewhat based on the price. If you only care about the smaller whale category, you'll price items really high. If you care about both categories, you'll price items along the lines of the prices we've been seeing in the crown store. High enough that the whales who buy everything will bring in decent profits, but low enough that the choosier players will still be willing to shell out the money to buy items if they like them enough.

agreed the prices are way out there i dont mind paying 5 dollars for a mount but not 25. But hey its up to them lol the numbers should lower in time i hope.