Shunravi wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

AND?

You read this, but it's obvious you don't understand it.

"Will I need to be an Xbox Live Gold or PlayStation Plus member in order to play the console versions?
Updated 03/17/2015 11:11 AM Published 01/20/2015 08:36 PM

Yes. As with any standard multiplayer game on these platforms, an internet connection and an Xbox Live Gold or PlayStation Plus membership will be required to play"

"As with any standard multiplayer game on these platforms" ESO is a multiplayer game. To be able to use the servers on console, you have to subscribe to their respective service.

I read this and understand. This is not needed to play online. They just want you to think that it is needed So you was kinda brainwashed. Which is Ok.

Ok, so if you already have this free online access, why even make this thread?

Read it from the beginning. Perhaps it will help.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

The console is what $500? Thats 10 years of PS+ eh?

So you want to pay sony another cost of the console in 5-10 years for nothing? This is what you mean?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

The console is what $500? Thats 10 years of PS+ eh?

So you want to pay sony another cost of the console in 5-10 years for nothing? This is what you mean?

I wouldnt buy a console Id take that $500 spend it on beer and play on the PC.

This is what I probably end up doing Reading all this console *** making Guinness looking better and better with each post I read

Just do what I do and pretend the consoles don't exist.

vovus69 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

The console is what $500? Thats 10 years of PS+ eh?

So you want to pay sony another cost of the console in 5-10 years for nothing? This is what you mean?

I wouldnt buy a console Id take that $500 spend it on beer and play on the PC.

This is what I probably end up doing Reading all this console *** making Guinness looking better and better with each post I read

Why do you think I play PC?

UrQuan wrote: »

If you use a console online you are connecting through their network. You pay for that service. End of story.

Aside from that, if you don't plan on playing any other games on a PS4, and you don't plan on using the PSN for anything, then why would you even consider dropping the $500 or so it costs to buy the console just to play ESO on it, when obviously you're already playing it fine on PC? It makes no sense, and this entire thread makes no sense.

Just a thought - perhaps it will have better graphics. Which might not be the case, but we don't know that now... But as far sa I can tell - I would really stick with PC for now or until they will drop this stupid requirement.

vovus69 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

If you use a console online you are connecting through their network. You pay for that service. End of story.

Aside from that, if you don't plan on playing any other games on a PS4, and you don't plan on using the PSN for anything, then why would you even consider dropping the $500 or so it costs to buy the console just to play ESO on it, when obviously you're already playing it fine on PC? It makes no sense, and this entire thread makes no sense.

Just a thought - perhaps it will have better graphics. Which might not be the case, but we don't know that now... But as far sa I can tell - I would really stick with PC for now or until they will drop this stupid requirement.

Drop $500 on some pc upgrades. You will be happier in the long run.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

If you use a console online you are connecting through their network. You pay for that service. End of story.

Aside from that, if you don't plan on playing any other games on a PS4, and you don't plan on using the PSN for anything, then why would you even consider dropping the $500 or so it costs to buy the console just to play ESO on it, when obviously you're already playing it fine on PC? It makes no sense, and this entire thread makes no sense.

Just a thought - perhaps it will have better graphics. Which might not be the case, but we don't know that now... But as far sa I can tell - I would really stick with PC for now or until they will drop this stupid requirement.

Drop $500 on some pc upgrades. You will be happier in the long run.

I have top notch one now Not sure that $500 will make a diff But in couple of years - why not

Shunravi wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

tallenn wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you can't play online at all on PS4 or XBone without Plus/Gold.

Yes, you could on PS3/XBox 360, but that has changed. Blame Sony/MS, not ZOS.

Yep. I know. So be it

So I assume that's an end to the insults then?

Nobody actually asked you to respond in first place

JD2013 wrote: »

Ask $ony or Micro$oft why. It's not up to Zenimax.

Yep, zos is just a small speck in this thing...

vovus69 wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

vovus69 wrote: »

tallenn wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you can't play online at all on PS4 or XBone without Plus/Gold.

Yes, you could on PS3/XBox 360, but that has changed. Blame Sony/MS, not ZOS.

Yep. I know. So be it

So I assume that's an end to the insults then?

Nobody actually asked you to respond in first place

why would they have to?

Maybe I'm just a careful shopper but I've never paid more than $40 for an Xbox Gold membership and a couple of years less. With it I get all the free games on the 360, which I get to keep forever, and the free with Gold games on the One. Just ask for it at gift giving time.

vovus69 wrote: »

James, again - I don't need any service. I just need internet connection to the ESO servers to play. Where is the sony service here? Nowhere.

The service is that you may then play games which need an online connection to or through the console manufacturer's network (in addition to your ISP costs, of course). And if you don't, you'll get to choose one old PS3 game for free once per month!

Consoles are closed platforms by design. The manufacturer is no longer content to just get money from you at the sale of the hardware (which, in the past, often was offered at dumping prices), nor is he no longer content to earn money with the sale of every game (that's why the second-hand market has been killed with the last generation). His best case scenario is to continuously get money from you through "value added services" for as long as you're using his hardware, and then sell you the successor, because you've invested so much at that point.

That's why the respective console networks are closed off of the Internet. Nothing gets in or out without the consent of the manufacturers, and any 3rd party company that wants to offer any kind of online game has to go through their networks. That's the main reason why ESO went B2P, because one of the big two console manufacturers didn't want to relinquish their network tax.

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

That's why the respective console networks are closed off of the Internet.

That's not the only reason (although it's definitely a big reason). It's also an attempt to prevent malicious third party software (or just third party software that alters proprietary software in an unauthorized way) from getting onto their systems.