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deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ArconSeptim wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We're currently looking at a few more hours of downtime for today's maintenance. In the meantime, here's a fun new note to whet your appetite:- If you contribute to killing a boss in a Cyrodiil delve, you will now be granted a 60-minute AP buff which increases your AP gains by 20%.
- Note: While this buff will be visible in areas outside of Cyrodiil, it will only be active while in Cyrodiil.
I knew it!! Cyrodiil delves becoming gank fests!
Thats the thing. For 20% this idea of a gank is off. I'm telling you; it will be zergs. A gank squad in there is going to be like a hair clog in a pipe and the zerg will come pouring through like Drano. And they will be in and out of there just as fast.
Don't forget that if it works an people spread out, it might be possible to increase pop locks again.
@ZOS_GinaBruno does everybody in the party get the buff or only the player with the killing blow?
Anyone that contributes to killing the boss will receive the buff.
Just had another thought here... if that's the direction you wanted to go in gina... Why not add "something" to the delves that would have maybe a random spawn and a mechanic like scrolls that would hav to be retrieved from the delves and brought back to you home keeps to turn in for lets say a small amount of score points? but could be fought over between factions like scrolls! That would keep people on the move in the dungeons for sure
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✭✭✭✭✭LMAO! Wait. You have to zone in to delves and get put in the Q to go back to Cyrodiil. Haha. What could possibly go wrong with door ganking and I will find it funny when EP is stuck in Q trying to come out.
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✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno sorry if this has already been addressed but... what happens when you go into a delve are counted as being out of Cyrodiil, someone then takes you place via the queue and you're stuck in the delve waiting to get back into Cyrodiil.
As to my knowledge this is how it was working in the past, Delves were not considered a part of Cyrodiil and entering one during peak times could lock you out of getting back out. Or is my information wrong and this lock out is only to people who log in and are trying to get into Cyrodiil?@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭Ganking in caves is a sure death sentence. Being in those tight and enclosed quarters nullifies any advantage one has of suprise.
I would wait outside the delve somewhere where I can frame the fight on more favorable terms, those that gank inside even with friends will die as many times as they don't, make themselves much easier targets for meteor, harder to get away from atronach, negate much more powerful since you have much less room to work with.
Nope, ill do my fighting outside...perhaps this is why this one has been running a double digit k/d since beta. This one does not like dying, its always best to make the other one fight on terms favorable to you so he dies instead of you.
Far, far, far too many disadvantages of fighting inside those cramped caves over any advantage one may find, the odds and numbers are not in you favor.
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You seem to miss the point of convenience items as much as everyone else, sure ESO is competitive in the sense of PvP, but thats about it, EXP Potions are there to cater for the non hardcore players who don't pump a lot of hours into the game so they can keep up.Attorneyatlawl wrote: »
I'm sure once the potions come out you will disregard all of your arguments and then purchase some every month with the 1500 crowns that you get, right?
Out of curiosity, do you really believe its the casual-play-a-little-bit-at-a-time players that are gonna be guzzling the hell out of these potions? The "hardcore" players are the ones that are going to be using them the most, I promise. And they're going to be leaving everybody else much further in the dust.
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✭✭✭LMAO! Wait. You have to zone in to delves and get put in the Q to go back to Cyrodiil. Haha. What could possibly go wrong with door ganking and I will find it funny when EP is stuck in Q trying to come out.
LOL. Great.
There has been mention in a thread on the topic in the PvP section that apparently there is no longer a Q when leaving delves; apparently Cyrodiil now counts delve populations towards the lock.Edited by Samadhi on March 30, 2015 4:34PM"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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Marketing tactic on ZOS's end, to help people subscribe so they don't have to buy crowns they can just get 1500 a month
You seem to miss the point of convenience items as much as everyone else, sure ESO is competitive in the sense of PvP, but thats about it, EXP Potions are there to cater for the non hardcore players who don't pump a lot of hours into the game so they can keep up.Attorneyatlawl wrote: »
I'm sure once the potions come out you will disregard all of your arguments and then purchase some every month with the 1500 crowns that you get, right?
Out of curiosity, do you really believe its the casual-play-a-little-bit-at-a-time players that are gonna be guzzling the hell out of these potions? The "hardcore" players are the ones that are going to be using them the most, I promise. And they're going to be leaving everybody else much further in the dust.
Fact: everyone who is subscribed will be using them, even non subscribed will pay for crowns for them, everyone will use the despite how against it they are.Edited by Nifty2g on March 30, 2015 4:38PM#MOREORBS0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LMAO! Wait. You have to zone in to delves and get put in the Q to go back to Cyrodiil. Haha. What could possibly go wrong with door ganking and I will find it funny when EP is stuck in Q trying to come out.
LOL. Great.
There has been mention in a thread on the topic in the PvP section that apparently there is no longer a Q when leaving delves; apparently Cyrodiil now counts delve populations towards the lock.
Well good thing I guess. Will make it easier to farm people at the door coming out as much as it is coming In.0 -
You seem to miss the point of convenience items as much as everyone else, sure ESO is competitive in the sense of PvP, but thats about it, EXP Potions are there to cater for the non hardcore players who don't pump a lot of hours into the game so they can keep up.Attorneyatlawl wrote: »
I'm sure once the potions come out you will disregard all of your arguments and then purchase some every month with the 1500 crowns that you get, right?
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Out of curiosity, do you really believe its the casual-play-a-little-bit-at-a-time players that are gonna be guzzling the hell out of these potions? The "hardcore" players are the ones that are going to be using them the most, I promise. And they're going to be leaving everybody else much further in the dust.
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The casual player have a choice if they want the xp pots or not. Should casual players feel they are left in dust why should I feel sorry for them? They can buy the potions just like anyone else.1 -
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It's not for the PVEers. It's for the PVPers.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
I used to PVE in Cyrodiil, but I guess I won't be doing that anymore since this new feature appears to be designed to make people like me easy prey for the PVP gankers.
Oh well. Plenty of other things to do.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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✭✭TraumaHawk wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »They are actually encouraging the population to spread out and start a new PVP meta of smaller skirmishes. There will be a somewhat sizable part of the population that will simply camp dungeon entrances or boss locations inside delves now. This is actually "stupid" enough to have a rather large effect.
In addition, some of our community have long requested better incentives to do the delves in Cyrodiil, and increase the skirmishes in them. The general feeling was that the Cyrodiil delves were not worth the potential risk. This change is in response to that feedback, too.
I'm lost what do you mean delves where not worth the potential risk? I'm somewhat new but wondered I never see any pvp in delves is there or is it changing to soon be gankewrs in the delves?
also what are pop locks
We're only talking about the Delves in Cyrodiil. Pop locks are "Population Locks". Each Cyrodiil campaign has a set maximum number of players (only know to ZOS) per alliance that can enter, before entrance is locked andno one can enter until someone leaves.0 -
Hamfast✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We're currently looking at a few more hours of downtime for today's maintenance. In the meantime, here's a fun new note to whet your appetite:- If you contribute to killing a boss in a Cyrodiil delve, you will now be granted a 60-minute AP buff which increases your AP gains by 20%.
- Note: While this buff will be visible in areas outside of Cyrodiil, it will only be active while in Cyrodiil.
I will be forced to do PvE in place where I go that I don't have to PvE!!!
You are not being forced to PvE, you just don't get the AP buff... your choiceOf all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most...2 - If you contribute to killing a boss in a Cyrodiil delve, you will now be granted a 60-minute AP buff which increases your AP gains by 20%.
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It's not for the PVEers. It's for the PVPers.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
I used to PVE in Cyrodiil, but I guess I won't be doing that anymore since this new feature appears to be designed to make people like me easy prey for the PVP gankers.
Oh well. Plenty of other things to do.
Everyone I know who is into PVP hates PVE. So ya its not for the pvp people.0 -
TraumaHawk✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We're currently looking at a few more hours of downtime for today's maintenance. In the meantime, here's a fun new note to whet your appetite:
- If you contribute to killing a boss in a Cyrodiil delve, you will now be granted a 60-minute AP buff which increases your AP gains by 20%.
- Note: While this buff will be visible in areas outside of Cyrodiil, it will only be active while in Cyrodiil.
can someone clarify this cause I know last time a few hours or into the afternoon ment6more hours does a few mean like 3or 4morew hours or does it mean till everyone goes home for the day meaning it'll be 2-3hours from the time I just posted this
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✭✭LMAO! Wait. You have to zone in to delves and get put in the Q to go back to Cyrodiil. Haha. What could possibly go wrong with door ganking and I will find it funny when EP is stuck in Q trying to come out.
LOL. Great.
No. The Cyrodiil Pop Lock has always included delve populations to avoid just such a thing.0 -
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✭and what is with the "you cant get out of a delve when the campaign is full" bug? This is a huge problem..1 -
nope, cause i'll be back in black desert alpha testing NA/EU translation and avoiding the champion lvls xp potion predatory business practice that....thankfully the common worthless stooges that make up the mass of the world's population will continue to support with a whole heart and unyielding passion with posts on game forums demonstrating their ignorance of how this works.
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✭✭✭✭✭and what is with the "you cant get out of a delve when the campaign is full" bug? This is a huge problem..
As far as I know.. that's always been a thing. I generally don't PvP, but do head there for PvE reasons. I try to avoid full campaigns for exactly this reason, but when it does happen we would just get an endless loading screen.. until you were out of queue and you would port outside lol.
I think the AP buff is a neat feature. Although PvE is not generally a PvPers favourite thing, we may see more of them in delves just to get the buff. This could make guild events (and all PvE Cyrodiil delvers) quite interesting... I like it!Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
FadedJeans✭✭✭Wait, why would PvE'rs come to cyrodiil to pve for a few minutes to get a 20% AP bonus?
If you start your PvP time off slaying a boss in a Delve, you're going to gain AP faster.
A little PvE before your PvP if you're trying to maximize AP gains.
Sounds neat, but not sure how well this will work out; we have occasionally run into problems shoving large groups into delves, getting hung up on the door.0 -
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✭✭✭FadedJeans wrote: »Wait, why would PvE'rs come to cyrodiil to pve for a few minutes to get a 20% AP bonus?
If you start your PvP time off slaying a boss in a Delve, you're going to gain AP faster.
A little PvE before your PvP if you're trying to maximize AP gains.
Sounds neat, but not sure how well this will work out; we have occasionally run into problems shoving large groups into delves, getting hung up on the door.
I just called my friend who pvps. His idea is why do they want to try and force people who only want to pvp into delves. Cyrodill shouldnt even have delves. So ya useless coding again when we have major issues need addressed in cyrodill.Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on March 30, 2015 4:58PM0 -
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It's not for the PVEers. It's for the PVPers.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
I used to PVE in Cyrodiil, but I guess I won't be doing that anymore since this new feature appears to be designed to make people like me easy prey for the PVP gankers.
Oh well. Plenty of other things to do.
Everyone I know who is into PVP hates PVE. So ya its not for the pvp people.
Because everyone you know is everyone.
I love to PvP, and I love to PvE. My guild does PvE in Cyrodiil pretty heavily. And the PvP in delves is awesome. The most awesome experience was when all three alliances were represented in one delve. DC and EP were fighting near a boss, and we were stealthed, and kept drawing monsters in to fight in the other two alliances fight. By the time they figured out that there was a third group in there, we were able to down the combined players left. Then... on the way back out after killing the boss, we ran into the EP group again. Then while we were fighting them, the DC group came back.
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McDoogs✭✭✭✭FadedJeans wrote: »Wait, why would PvE'rs come to cyrodiil to pve for a few minutes to get a 20% AP bonus?
If you start your PvP time off slaying a boss in a Delve, you're going to gain AP faster.
A little PvE before your PvP if you're trying to maximize AP gains.
Sounds neat, but not sure how well this will work out; we have occasionally run into problems shoving large groups into delves, getting hung up on the door.
I get that, what I don't get is the complaint that PvE'rs are going to take up spots in the campaigns because of a change like this.0 -
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✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
It's not for the PVEers. It's for the PVPers.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
I used to PVE in Cyrodiil, but I guess I won't be doing that anymore since this new feature appears to be designed to make people like me easy prey for the PVP gankers.
Oh well. Plenty of other things to do.
Everyone I know who is into PVP hates PVE. So ya its not for the pvp people.
Because everyone you know is everyone.
I love to PvP, and I love to PvE. My guild does PvE in Cyrodiil pretty heavily. And the PvP in delves is awesome. The most awesome experience was when all three alliances were represented in one delve. DC and EP were fighting near a boss, and we were stealthed, and kept drawing monsters in to fight in the other two alliances fight. By the time they figured out that there was a third group in there, we were able to down the combined players left. Then... on the way back out after killing the boss, we ran into the EP group again. Then while we were fighting them, the DC group came back.
Good times, good times.
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We're currently looking at a few more hours of downtime for today's maintenance. In the meantime, here's a fun new note to whet your appetite:- If you contribute to killing a boss in a Cyrodiil delve, you will now be granted a 60-minute AP buff which increases your AP gains by 20%.
- Note: While this buff will be visible in areas outside of Cyrodiil, it will only be active while in Cyrodiil.
I will be forced to do PvE in place where I go that I don't have to PvE!!!
You are not being forced to PvE, you just don't get the AP buff... your choice
20% AP buff isn't a smart choice to ignore. Ether you go for emp, rank or gear 20% buff is must have!Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!0 - If you contribute to killing a boss in a Cyrodiil delve, you will now be granted a 60-minute AP buff which increases your AP gains by 20%.
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✭✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »FadedJeans wrote: »Wait, why would PvE'rs come to cyrodiil to pve for a few minutes to get a 20% AP bonus?
If you start your PvP time off slaying a boss in a Delve, you're going to gain AP faster.
A little PvE before your PvP if you're trying to maximize AP gains.
Sounds neat, but not sure how well this will work out; we have occasionally run into problems shoving large groups into delves, getting hung up on the door.
I just called my friend who pvps. His idea is why do they want to try and force people who only want to pvp into delves. Cyrodill shouldnt even have delves. So ya useless coding again when we have major issues need addressed in cyrodill.
I like the delves and other PvE elements that make Cyrodiil feel fleshed out. I enjoy PvE and PvP equally. Ironically, though, this will make it tougher for my characters who haven't completed the Cyrodiil content but that just makes it more of a challenge.
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