I reported this long before it was mentioned on reddit. This isn't new... Meteor has always been able to crash the server. The difference now is that Meteor was improved in 1.6 and more people are using it. Meteor should be a ground target spell so that it can't be spammed a dozen times before it finally hits a target.

I think it's the mole people. They dig under the ground and make lots of particles. You don't see them but they are there.

kitsinni wrote: »

I'm sure it causes lag but we had lag before it was popular to use and you hardly ever saw it. I just think the game isn't optimized for groups of people in small areas. Meteor just highlights this being AE. I think anything that is hitting a bunch of people is causing problems. When people zerg up and use heals .. lag, when they zerg up and use destro staff .. lag, when they zerg up and use meteor .. lag. ZOS just make siege do absurd damage in hopes that it makes people spread out.

pre-lighting fix we also had huge battles and it hardly lagged. I even invited friends at home to see what this game could handle. Now if they come i tell them the game never existed.

But back then, after the lighting "fix", there was only the mages guild meteor and hardly used. And the 2-set armor which procs meteor didn't exist.

So i agree. Meteor is not the cause of the lag alone, but contributes to it (mainly the 2-set armor that procs it) Better to remove the lightning fix, because all the new effects (meteor, radiant destruction, moah particles) probably make use of this lighting "fix"

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

Y'all are mad bc meteor is actually decent now for all the work it takes to get it, you don't get it, so now you trying to get it nerfed lol.

I think that a level 50 character can probably get from rank 0 to rank 10 in the Mages' Guild in approximately 3 hours. That's a guess.. it's somewhere between 2 and 5, though. It's the easiest skill line in the entire game to advance.

I like meteor. It looks great, it sounds great and it's fun to use. I like Cyrodiil more, though, and I'd happily live in a meteor-free version if it makes a real difference to the latency.

Minno wrote: »

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/301xan/after_several_tests_we_determined_where_the_lag/

Based on recent threads, it was determined meteor was sole cause of lag.
Please ask everyone to deslot it.

Calling all factions to discourage it's use.
This is a no blame thread.

More like cause of QQ. Sorry but there was maaad lag well before this became everyones' favourite candy.

Islyn wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/301xan/after_several_tests_we_determined_where_the_lag/

Based on recent threads, it was determined meteor was sole cause of lag.
Please ask everyone to deslot it.

Calling all factions to discourage it's use.
This is a no blame thread.

More like cause of QQ. Sorry but there was maaad lag well before this became everyones' favourite candy.

I think you should check out the related post here

Gorthax wrote: »

EDIT: I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH! I AM IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM SAYING EP CAUSED THIS! PLEASE (PEOPLE FROM THAT FIGHT) STOP SAYING WE ARE ACCUSING YOU! I AM NOT NOR IS ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS VIDEO

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_PaulSage here you guys go! Just watch AND listen.....video says it all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHYIowOVBI

Then check out the replies from ZOS

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Forwarded along to our engineer gang!

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Wrobel and the combat team are digging into what they can do about it

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are various abilities being looked into and abilities which proc off gear as well. Abilities which cause movement changes on other players like knockback, especially AE knockback, are included in this list.

Even in this thread

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just wanted to let you all know that we are actively looking into this. Thank you!

So ZOS is taking notice on this, and it doesn't seem to be just idle bitching that it's OP. I also don't think it's the single reason why Cyrodiil lags, but I can see it being a large contributing factor in the 2.0+ PvP world. and I hope your not defending it because you can't figure out how to get a kill without it, that's not helping any arguements.

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Jauriel wrote: »

and fwiw I have been playing since closed beta. Never experienced lag until maybe the last 2 months and never had the crashing to desktop I have now.

As have I, nor am I one of those experiencing heavy lag in Cyro even post 1.6 with heavy Meteor use at my position or close. Since 2.0 however I can say for a fact that lag has increased dramatically. There is no noticeable difference in Meteor use from 1.6 > 2.0 yet all the sudden many Players are complaining constantly about lag in PvE, myself included. There are multiple threads about how laggy Vet DC is since 2.0 (all without Meteor being used), on top of dozens of threads, hell we might be up to hundreds by now, about how bad the PvE lag is, constant DC'ing, forever load screens, etc.

My point is, PvE is experiencing lag bad enough to bring tons of folks to the Forums to complain, and in none of those situations is Meteor being used. And as I said before, certainly Meteor's sound effect, or the ground shaking effect, or it's animation are causing MORE lag than the normal lag we've had in Cryo since launch and ZoS should definitely look into it. The greater issue is that ZoS hasn't been able to completely fix the lag for everyone in Cyro in an entire year, what makes you think that some random thread embellishing that Meteor is the sole cause of lag and everyone should deslot it immediately is going to all the sudden prompt ZoS to fix the lag?

I have a feeling that it's little more than certain Players (who unf have to remain nameless) abusing the system by casting 3-5 Meteors back to back before the Ultimate greys out. How they're doing this I have no idea but it's certainly happening. This obvious exploit is likely a large portion of what's hitting the server load to cause lag spikes for some, because Players are doing things that shouldn't work so it's messing the game up.[/quote]

As per 1.6 patch notes:

"Adjusted the visual effects for the following abilities to improve client performance in Cyrodiil and Trials:
Standard of Might
Flames of Oblivion
Obsidian Shield and its morphs
Engulfing Flames

Updated the visual effects for Meteor and both morphs."

Change of meteor occurred for 1.6. Lag occurred greatly in pvp after 1.6. Worth looking into as per above.
Shows they were adjusting visual performance of skills to address lag.
None of this skills above were harmed (and are still used).

Thread isn't the solution. But it was to call out issues without the faction fights we've been having. Not taking back my previous statements of it being the sole issue. At the time of writing, that spell had heavy rotation in thorn. When it wasn't used and in the open world, lag deminished slightly. Rip this apart for errors, but one issue at a time is only way to address problems. I stick by my words.

Sure there other issues. Let's rip apart the patch notes together if you want to find them. Start a new thread. Keep it positive and you'll do great things sans the defeatist attitude. We are in this together and if we didn't care about the game we'd have started playing another.

Based on those bots a year ago, I'd say certain groups of players could do worse and ZOS falling to see the signs without players help. We will never know.

Reminder, thread not about pve, since thread exists in PvP section of forums. For pve aspects of discussion, please refer to pve section for appropriate section and topics.