Beggars

Greycats · March 2015

Why can't we give the beggar NPCs a gold piece as we did in Skyrim or Oblivion? I feel so sad for them when they ask for gold! Please let us give beggars a gold in a future update.

ItsGlaive · March 2015

I do seem to remember early in the game you could, maybe it was in beta? Or have I totally imagined that?

Greycats · March 2015

I don't remember; I will have to ask my husband as he played beta more than I did. I hope they add it back in!

UrQuan · March 2015

Xabien wrote: »

I do seem to remember early in the game you could, maybe it was in beta? Or have I totally imagined that?

I thought the same thing. I seem to remember discussion about how that "give to the poor" achievement only worked if you gave gold to the randomly encountered people begging in the wilds, and not if you gave gold to the always-present beggars in cities.

Greycats · March 2015

But those people in the cities need it pretty bad! They are so pitiful. I did find a random beggar in the wild, though, and helped him out.

Gidorick · March 2015

I think they should add this back in. I feel bad for them.

GreySix · March 2015

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

UrQuan · March 2015

Greycats wrote: »

But those people in the cities need it pretty bad! They are so pitiful. I did find a random beggar in the wild, though, and helped him out.

There are a few random encounters in the wild that will give you achievements if you complete them in all zones: giving gold to one of the random beggars is one of those encounters.

Others include intimidating a merchant to steal from them, lighting a fire for a couple of people too incompetent to do it themselves, and talking to M'aiq.

Greycats · March 2015

Thanks for the info!

Gidorick · March 2015

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Gilvoth · March 2015

Greycats wrote: »

Why can't we give the beggar NPCs a gold piece as we did in Skyrim or Oblivion? I feel so sad for them when they ask for gold! Please let us give beggars a gold in a future update.

i would absolutely love this, i really miss the beggers from elderscrolls games and wish they were in eso.

Zershar_Vemod · March 2015

There are a few you can give to for an achievement I believe.

UrQuan · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Or, if you've given gold to beggars within a particular period of time they won't count as witnesses to crimes committed against other people... That would be a nifty and characterful thing to do. Psst, here, I'll give you a few coins if you look the other way while I nick a purse from this mark!

Gidorick · March 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Or, if you've given gold to beggars within a particular period of time they won't count as witnesses to crimes committed against other people... That would be a nifty and characterful thing to do. Psst, here, I'll give you a few coins if you look the other way while I nick a purse from this mark!

Oh that's awesome! A lot simpler and more 'realistic'. I vote for your idea.

starkerealm · March 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Greycats wrote: »

But those people in the cities need it pretty bad! They are so pitiful. I did find a random beggar in the wild, though, and helped him out.

There are a few random encounters in the wild that will give you achievements if you complete them in all zones: giving gold to one of the random beggars is one of those encounters.

Others include intimidating a merchant to steal from them, lighting a fire for a couple of people too incompetent to do it themselves, and talking to M'aiq.

Just a quick note. M'aiq spawns out in the wild. The campfires (Lightbringer), merchants (Crime Pays), and beggars (Give to the Poor), share their spawn nodes, and are always alongside roads in the zone.

The merchants will appear standing next to a horse. As opposed to the ones walking the roads. Also, when intimidating them, the achievement doesn't tick until you actually collect the contents of their backpack. Simply intimidating and running off doesn't get you paid.

Greycats · March 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Or, if you've given gold to beggars within a particular period of time they won't count as witnesses to crimes committed against other people... That would be a nifty and characterful thing to do. Psst, here, I'll give you a few coins if you look the other way while I nick a purse from this mark!

I love these ideas!

UrQuan · March 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Greycats wrote: »

But those people in the cities need it pretty bad! They are so pitiful. I did find a random beggar in the wild, though, and helped him out.

There are a few random encounters in the wild that will give you achievements if you complete them in all zones: giving gold to one of the random beggars is one of those encounters.

Others include intimidating a merchant to steal from them, lighting a fire for a couple of people too incompetent to do it themselves, and talking to M'aiq.

Just a quick note. M'aiq spawns out in the wild. The campfires (Lightbringer), merchants (Crime Pays), and beggars (Give to the Poor), share their spawn nodes, and are always alongside roads in the zone.

The merchants will appear standing next to a horse. As opposed to the ones walking the roads. Also, when intimidating them, the achievement doesn't tick until you actually collect the contents of their backpack. Simply intimidating and running off doesn't get you paid.

All very true, and good to note. There are 2 different spots in each zone where M'aiq can spawn (at least I think there are only 2 in each zone), and they are usually places that are isolated, and with no obvious reason to go there, but often with an interesting view.

UrQuan · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Or, if you've given gold to beggars within a particular period of time they won't count as witnesses to crimes committed against other people... That would be a nifty and characterful thing to do. Psst, here, I'll give you a few coins if you look the other way while I nick a purse from this mark!

Oh that's awesome! A lot simpler and more 'realistic'. I vote for your idea.

It could even be a buff that shows on your character screen for a set time: "Turn a Blind Eye: beggars will not report you for crimes, unless the crime is committed against a beggar".

Greycats · March 2015

I love the "Turn a Blind Eye"! Great idea!

Gidorick · March 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Or, if you've given gold to beggars within a particular period of time they won't count as witnesses to crimes committed against other people... That would be a nifty and characterful thing to do. Psst, here, I'll give you a few coins if you look the other way while I nick a purse from this mark!

Oh that's awesome! A lot simpler and more 'realistic'. I vote for your idea.

It could even be a buff that shows on your character screen for a set time: "Turn a Blind Eye: beggars will not report you for crimes, unless the crime is committed against a beggar".

Make a separate thread for this to give it some visibility!

I do think, however, There should be more to it than just the thieving support. It should be presented as a choice like.

"Alms for an old ex-lepper?"
- May the Eight watch over you. (150G) = Blessings of the Eight is cast upon you +10%XP gain for 10 minutes
- Keep watch street rat. (150G) = Turn a Blind Eye is cast upon you, Beggars will not witness your crimes for 10 minutes
- Goodbye

BigM · March 2015

I agree this would be great if they put it in. I don't remember if it was ever in beta. But am old.

UrQuan · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Or, if you've given gold to beggars within a particular period of time they won't count as witnesses to crimes committed against other people... That would be a nifty and characterful thing to do. Psst, here, I'll give you a few coins if you look the other way while I nick a purse from this mark!

Oh that's awesome! A lot simpler and more 'realistic'. I vote for your idea.

It could even be a buff that shows on your character screen for a set time: "Turn a Blind Eye: beggars will not report you for crimes, unless the crime is committed against a beggar".

Make a separate thread for this to give it some visibility!

I do think, however, There should be more to it than just the thieving support. It should be presented as a choice like.

"Alms for an old ex-lepper?"
- May the Eight watch over you. (150G) = Blessings of the Eight is cast upon you +10%XP gain for 10 minutes
- Keep watch street rat. (150G) = Turn a Blind Eye is cast upon you, Beggars will not witness your crimes for 10 minutes
- Goodbye

Oh, I agree that's an even better idea

tinythinker · March 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Would like to see giving to beggars do some good, but that might be hard to pull off in an MMO.

I have an idea, what if giving gold to beggars increased how much that beggar liked you and if he likes you enough he will come to your aid if you are close enough to him if you are being attacked/pursued by a guard/npc. The amount that you are liked is directly proportional to how recently you gave and how much gold you gave to the beggar.

Time since donation = distance beggar will travel to help you.
Amount given = how much damage the beggar is willing to take for you.

Or, if you've given gold to beggars within a particular period of time they won't count as witnesses to crimes committed against other people... That would be a nifty and characterful thing to do. Psst, here, I'll give you a few coins if you look the other way while I nick a purse from this mark!

Oh that's awesome! A lot simpler and more 'realistic'. I vote for your idea.

It could even be a buff that shows on your character screen for a set time: "Turn a Blind Eye: beggars will not report you for crimes, unless the crime is committed against a beggar".

Make a separate thread for this to give it some visibility!

I do think, however, There should be more to it than just the thieving support. It should be presented as a choice like.

"Alms for an old ex-lepper?"
- May the Eight watch over you. (150G) = Blessings of the Eight is cast upon you +10%XP gain for 10 minutes
- Keep watch street rat. (150G) = Turn a Blind Eye is cast upon you, Beggars will not witness your crimes for 10 minutes
- Goodbye

Not sure that turning a blind eye would do much good for just the one beggar, but if it was a blanket "reduce chance of being detected while pickpocketing for X minutes" that might work. I also like the blessing, which isn't quite the same as other ES games; but then again, there are already going to be XP bonuses for subbing and for potions on top of Mara's Ring, so possible something else? Perhaps "increase regeneration of Health, Magicka, and Stamina by 200 for 20 minutes"?

Edit: I guess that it would, with the mechanic, make more sense to say "increase chance of successfully pickpocketing by 10%" rather than reduce the chance of being detected.

driosketch · March 2015

There are some in the cities you can give money to, most notable is the couple under the bridge in Davon's Watch. There was also one woman in Daggerfall.

Froggmann5 · March 2015

Greycats wrote: »

Why can't we give the beggar NPCs a gold piece as we did in Skyrim or Oblivion? I feel so sad for them when they ask for gold! Please let us give beggars a gold in a future update.

These ARE in the game. I just saw one in Auridon. He asked for 103 gold for his starving family.

Gidorick · March 2015

Froggmann5 wrote: »

Greycats wrote: »

Why can't we give the beggar NPCs a gold piece as we did in Skyrim or Oblivion? I feel so sad for them when they ask for gold! Please let us give beggars a gold in a future update.

These ARE in the game. I just saw one in Auridon. He asked for 103 gold for his starving family.

But that's just a specific beggar. We're talking about ALL beggars.

Greycats · March 2015

Froggmann5 wrote: »

Greycats wrote: »

Why can't we give the beggar NPCs a gold piece as we did in Skyrim or Oblivion? I feel so sad for them when they ask for gold! Please let us give beggars a gold in a future update.

These ARE in the game. I just saw one in Auridon. He asked for 103 gold for his starving family.

I didn't know that, thanks!! We should be able to help all beggars though. They are all hungry!

Grapdjan · March 2015

Don't encourage them. Lazy SoBs, there is literally stuff laying about everywhere they could raise some capital from..

Greycats · March 2015

I am laughing so hard right now!

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · March 2015

If you guys get the "discoveries" addon it shows all the spawn points. For those who dont like doing it on their own lol.

Theosis · March 2015

create Karma system, give coins to poor, sacrifice gold to RNG gods, get slightly better luck