@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno,

Any chance for a ZOS reply? (even if just to say "We looked into it, the system is working as intended, and apparently the RNG Gods just didn't like the four or you or your raw materials yesterday")?

Thanks

Just refined over 3k ores on maxed blacksmith, while the sample size may be small, as far as I can tell, nothing's changed...one (1) gold temper is all i got... So nothing changed, except no tempers from hirelings.

Just to add my experience (though, also a very small sample) I refined about 1000 void bloom yesterday (post 1.6) and did not get any gold mats, refined about 800 void wood and did not get any gold mats, refined about 900 voidstone ore and got 1 tempering alloy. Drop rates on gold mats seem to be reduced quite a bit.

I refined about 400 void stones yesterday and got 4 tempering alloys. To me it looks like the yield is way up. I'll try the materials later today.

Refined a *** of mats. 5% per stack of 10. This is a issue however as gold mails are no longer a thing.

Just to add my observation in (sample is not at big as some above):
Refining a little over 1500 mats (void ore & cloth) got 0 gold tempers. Could be a run of back luck.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did see the posts from earlier and are currently investigating. No news yet, though.

So 2 questions @ZOS_GinaBruno:
1. Any update?
2. What is the programmed/working as intended drop rate for gold tempers?

If we simply knew how the game was supposed to work it would be easier to test whether it is working as intended.

Not sure if the skill is not working but I refines more the a few stacks of mats like 500 give or take and got enough gold mats to make my first golden armor piece I have heard this both ways with it working and failing but after the first day I seem to just get unless style stones snd the base mats

I have gotten no gold or purple mats from refining, de constructing, or hirelings since 1.6 dropped.

If we simply knew how the game was supposed to work, it would be easier to test whether it is working as intended.

If they told us how it was supposed to work, they would have stick to that, or people would be complaining. By keeping us in the dark, they are keeping their options to change the drop rates at will to balance the economy of the game. It's probably a wise decision, even though it results in uncertainty and possibly a slightly unfair outcome for some of us.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did see the posts from earlier and are currently investigating. No news yet, though.

@ZOS_GinaBruno So it has been a week, any news or is none forthcoming?

In another thread several players have tested during PTS and now in live the refining drop rates:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1605361/#Comment_1605361
The total refinements tested in the thread is tens of thousands raw mats. I combined the results of 59000 raw mat refinements and average drop rate was 5,2%, i.e. five gold mats per 1000 raw mats.

The statement in 165 patch notes that say

• Significantly increased the chance to receive gold boosters from refining.

is false. The drop rate is same as in 1.5.

Hireling drop rate of gold mats is still unsure. My feeling is that every 50th or 100th mail gives a golden mat, but i have received three by now. So this:

• Significantly decreased the chance to receive gold boosters, gold aspect runes and purple provisioning ingredients from hireling mails.

is mostly correct, but is an understatement.Nerfed to ground would be more correct, i believe. Purple provisioning mats drop now slightly more than old oats and tomatoes though.

From the extensive refining that I've done thousands and thousands of raws refined (i'd been stockpiling for awhile), I'm getting around a dreugh wax every stack and a half of raws, which seems like a solid improvement from before. If I refine 100 times (10 stacks of 100) I'll probably walk away with 5-6 dreugh wax.

For me this seems pretty solid, not sure why everyone jumps to the conclusion that the sky is falling or the end is near, etc. But I'll try to record some numbers this weekend when I gather/buy more raws and come back here. In fact, anyone who's wanting to post here should just give us some hard numbers.

OP'er here. Thank you to everyone (including @ZOS_GinaBruno) for your replies over the past week.

From the posts both here and in other threads, the consensus appears to be that in 1.6.5 & 1.6.6 gold tempers are dropping at a rate of around 5 tempers per 1,000 raw materials refined. This is unchanged from the pre-1.6 drop rates and inconsistent with the 1.6.5 Live patch notes.

The question has been answered to my satisfaction, and since @ZOS_GinaBruno replied that they will investigate, my suspicion is that we'll see a note in 1.6.7 or 1.6.8 to the effect of "Gold temper drop rates from refining have been adjusted". Another possibility is that ZOS will simply adjust the drop rate in the background without public notification.

Either option would be fine, and I'd understand if this is not the highest priority on ZOS's to-do list -- it's not really game- (or economy-) breaking.

At this point, I think we can close this thread & go back to saving Tamriel from Molag Bal (...or work, in my case). Thank you, again, to everyone for your input.

Thanks @Nestor,

I didn't knew if that was the case before 1.6.

I took the opportunity of the free respec to convert most of my non AD alts to crafters, and that was when I noticed the disparity, when I started doing the refining on the new lowbie char