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Grim13✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Clearly, the only solution is for every faction to meet at Aless Bridge for some nekkid dancing...1 -
Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Edited by Lord_Draevan on February 5, 2015 12:05PMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server2 -
Darnathian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »DC regularly daycapped the Thornblade NA map for several weeks in the August-October timeframe. They might be the low pop faction right now on Thorn but they used to flex their strength a few months ago.
And EP used to be a joke until the competition on both sides quit. lol
You mean a couple of EP guilds came from other servers and forced them to quit.5 -
Aoe_Barbecue✭✭✭✭✭Darnathian wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »LonePirate wrote: »DC regularly daycapped the Thornblade NA map for several weeks in the August-October timeframe. They might be the low pop faction right now on Thorn but they used to flex their strength a few months ago.
And EP used to be a joke until the competition on both sides quit. lol
You mean a couple of EP guilds came from other servers and forced them to quit.
LOL I'm sure you'd like to think that. But, No Mercy went inactive because of game performance and lack of interest in the game. EHJ went inactive for the same reason. Those were all we had other than the eminent zerg of lag and prosperity, and EHJ broke up before NM did. LoM is still around but suffering just as much from lack of interest as the rest of DC guilds.
The competition on DC quit. The competition on AD quit and moved over to red, for which I don't blame them because at the time AD were night cappers.Edited by Aoe_Barbecue on February 10, 2015 11:04AM1 -
Aoe_Barbecue✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
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Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones. It's an easy call to make. If your competition is primarily NPC's, level an alt. I know of one group of eight or so yellows that rerolled DC; their testicular fortitude is admirable. I remember when the leader of the red guilds were just as vocal as DC (sometimes more so) about AD night capping. Look at how quickly and easily the indignant turned into apologists for a moments twist of fortune!Edited by Aoe_Barbecue on February 10, 2015 10:52AM0 -
Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Six months ago the so-called elite group of EP would have comprised roughly 1/8th of the organized, truly organized, competition in the game, if even that. Six months ago your so-called "super group" (as I have heard them referred to in some circles) wouldnt have been much of anything special, No Mercy was way more dangerous than Havoc. TKO/BDG in its prime farmed IR. Hijinx in its prime was way better than it is today, etc. None of the current guilds besides the couple big EP ones are even at full strength anymore.
Half of all of those players quit, we have less than half of the organized people in general left. Of those, half are in one faction.
Even if you combine all the major guilds of AD into one group, you MIGHT get 48 solid. Might. And that includes members of my guild, which a lot of people seem to think not so highly of despite us having been the majority of the force on Dawnbreaker Reloaded.
DC is even smaller than that.
When the total EP zerg of organized people outnumbers both organized sets from the other two factions, there is a problem
EP has IR, Havoc, Hijinx, Vehemence, Phoenix, and about six other smaller guilds. Sorry if I missed any. At any given time EP could have 4-5 organized raids with 100+ people on the map if they wanted.
AD has Alacrity, Decibel, the remainder of DiE, TKO (whats left of our original crew + a lot of new recruits), Rangers and a few others that dont really identify or stand out by name. At any given time AD could have 2-3 organized raids with 60-80 total on the map at any given time if they wanted, that being said we are lucky if we can get even half of that moving in the same direction most of the time. Not to mention that two of those organized guilds I named rarely field one full raid COMBINED if they play at all.
DC has MBF, LOM and... who? Like literally those are the only two DC guilds I even know by name. Does that even add up to two full raids? 40 people? I dont know.
What I am saying is, one of the big organized EP guilds needs to go DC, else the whole factional balance is completely skewed.
So I mean, you reds get all up on your high horse when you basically have all the strength of your previous experienced guilds, now with half of one of ADs former guilds, AND population to boot.
You really have nothing to be proud of, and should endeavor to balance it, lest PvP actually declines further.Edited by Rylana on February 10, 2015 11:23AM@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
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Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones.
People? Doing the right thing? If only we lived in such a world...Edited by Lord_Draevan on February 10, 2015 1:07PMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server0 -
Weberda✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones.
People? Doing the right thing? If only we lived in such a world...
The situation is actually rather ironic. For weeks on end Agrippa was the leading voice on AD players switching sides. May listened and agreed. What you have now is the end result. Once again the call goes out for players to join other factions only now it is primarily aimed at EP. "Virtual Loop"?
IMO we have too much campaign capacity. Exactly what purpose does Azura's Star serve right now beyond a buff campaign for AD players in PVE? I know several of the real AD PVP players that home on AS since they came from Haderus. I see them now and then....on Thorn. No PVP on AS so......
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Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones.
People? Doing the right thing? If only we lived in such a world...
The situation is actually rather ironic. For weeks on end Agrippa was the leading voice on AD players switching sides. May listened and agreed. What you have now is the end result. Once again the call goes out for players to join other factions only now it is primarily aimed at EP. "Virtual Loop"?
IMO we have too much campaign capacity. Exactly what purpose does Azura's Star serve right now beyond a buff campaign for AD players in PVE? I know several of the real AD PVP players that home on AS since they came from Haderus. I see them now and then....on Thorn. No PVP on AS so......
We're going to have a large influx of players when the sub fee is dropped next month, most likely the campaigns will fill up. Might as well leave it at 5 campaigns until then.Edited by Lord_Draevan on February 10, 2015 1:19PMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server0 -
Weberda✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones.
People? Doing the right thing? If only we lived in such a world...
The situation is actually rather ironic. For weeks on end Agrippa was the leading voice on AD players switching sides. May listened and agreed. What you have now is the end result. Once again the call goes out for players to join other factions only now it is primarily aimed at EP. "Virtual Loop"?
IMO we have too much campaign capacity. Exactly what purpose does Azura's Star serve right now beyond a buff campaign for AD players in PVE? I know several of the real AD PVP players that home on AS since they came from Haderus. I see them now and then....on Thorn. No PVP on AS so......
We're going to have a large influx of players when the sub fee is dropped next month, most likely the campaigns will fill up. Might as well leave it at 5 campaigns until then.
Your conclusion is strictly conjecture. I for one think that particularly in regards to PVP the additional numbers will probably be far less than ZOS is counting on. Also the "new" player base will not be dedicated TES fans but basically F2P folks who will move on to the next faddish game in a few months.
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Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones.
People? Doing the right thing? If only we lived in such a world...
The situation is actually rather ironic. For weeks on end Agrippa was the leading voice on AD players switching sides. May listened and agreed. What you have now is the end result. Once again the call goes out for players to join other factions only now it is primarily aimed at EP. "Virtual Loop"?
IMO we have too much campaign capacity. Exactly what purpose does Azura's Star serve right now beyond a buff campaign for AD players in PVE? I know several of the real AD PVP players that home on AS since they came from Haderus. I see them now and then....on Thorn. No PVP on AS so......
We're going to have a large influx of players when the sub fee is dropped next month, most likely the campaigns will fill up. Might as well leave it at 5 campaigns until then.
Your conclusion is strictly conjecture. I for one think that particularly in regards to PVP the additional numbers will probably be far less than ZOS is counting on. Also the "new" player base will not be dedicated TES fans but basically F2P folks who will move on to the next faddish game in a few months.
I didn't say they'd stay, only that we're getting a large influx of players next month.
Also, your conclusion is also strictly conjecture
I know of several dozen people from the TES Wiki who were holding off on getting the game until they dropped the sub fee, and they're definitely TES fans. They even have an idea for a catchy guild name, can't remember it though.Edited by Lord_Draevan on February 10, 2015 1:39PMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server1 -
Weberda✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones.
People? Doing the right thing? If only we lived in such a world...
The situation is actually rather ironic. For weeks on end Agrippa was the leading voice on AD players switching sides. May listened and agreed. What you have now is the end result. Once again the call goes out for players to join other factions only now it is primarily aimed at EP. "Virtual Loop"?
IMO we have too much campaign capacity. Exactly what purpose does Azura's Star serve right now beyond a buff campaign for AD players in PVE? I know several of the real AD PVP players that home on AS since they came from Haderus. I see them now and then....on Thorn. No PVP on AS so......
We're going to have a large influx of players when the sub fee is dropped next month, most likely the campaigns will fill up. Might as well leave it at 5 campaigns until then.
Your conclusion is strictly conjecture. I for one think that particularly in regards to PVP the additional numbers will probably be far less than ZOS is counting on. Also the "new" player base will not be dedicated TES fans but basically F2P folks who will move on to the next faddish game in a few months.
I didn't say they'd stay, only that we're getting a large influx of players next month.
Also, your conclusion is also strictly conjecture
I know of several dozen people from the TES Wiki who were holding off on getting the game until they dropped the sub fee, and they're definitely TES fans. They even have an idea for a catchy guild name, can't remember it though.
Yep, my conclusion is conjecture also. This is a conversation we'll have again in April.
Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
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Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Nightcapping bad, daycapping bad. I guess the only solution is to stop capturing keeps altogether?
Yup. No more playing the game, clearly it's a problem! We should dance, as Grim13 suggests.
Or the player base could police itself by not being predominantly one faction in particular time zones.
People? Doing the right thing? If only we lived in such a world...
The situation is actually rather ironic. For weeks on end Agrippa was the leading voice on AD players switching sides. May listened and agreed. What you have now is the end result. Once again the call goes out for players to join other factions only now it is primarily aimed at EP. "Virtual Loop"?
IMO we have too much campaign capacity. Exactly what purpose does Azura's Star serve right now beyond a buff campaign for AD players in PVE? I know several of the real AD PVP players that home on AS since they came from Haderus. I see them now and then....on Thorn. No PVP on AS so......
We're going to have a large influx of players when the sub fee is dropped next month, most likely the campaigns will fill up. Might as well leave it at 5 campaigns until then.
Your conclusion is strictly conjecture. I for one think that particularly in regards to PVP the additional numbers will probably be far less than ZOS is counting on. Also the "new" player base will not be dedicated TES fans but basically F2P folks who will move on to the next faddish game in a few months.
I didn't say they'd stay, only that we're getting a large influx of players next month.
Also, your conclusion is also strictly conjecture
I know of several dozen people from the TES Wiki who were holding off on getting the game until they dropped the sub fee, and they're definitely TES fans. They even have an idea for a catchy guild name, can't remember it though.
Yep, my conclusion is conjecture also. This is a conversation we'll have again in April.
I'm sure I'll have forgotten it long before then :disagree:I'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server0
