Thank you ZOS!!!

Cogo · January 2015

Cheese? No?

wenchmore420b14_ESO · January 2015

Kraven wrote: »

ZOS_LenaicR wrote: »

Hi there,

As stated in our Community Code of Conduct, we do not allow selling or trading of ESO accounts on our forums:

"Selling, Trading, and Sharing Game Accounts: The act of selling, trading, or sharing your ESO account is a violation of our Terms of Service. As such, we also do not allow discussion about selling, trading, or sharing game accounts on our forums."

The concerned posts have been removed.

Please keep in mind that we encourage discussion on the forums, but we do ask that all threads and posts created have a constructive and clear topic of discussion.

Thanks for your understanding.

That's right! If you're going to sell your account take it out side the forums. Then it's okay.

Now I have people spamming me to buy gold in forum now!! It was a msg in my profile this morning. Wow... The bots are warming up and the spammers are tweeking their keyboards already. " M'aiq say it sad day for Tamriel.."

Naivefanboi · January 2015

dietlime wrote: »

This is Bethesda's MMO, and their only MMO. It's not going to get thrown to the wayside. Many of the changes being made are specifically to make sure it has a future. Many of them modernize the game in really critical ways.

If you can't see that, I'm sorry.

The ONLY concern we should have now is obviously PAY TO WIN. It's a fine line. Sony has left a bad taste in my mouth with Planetside 2. I hope ESO doesn't end up feeling that way.

lol destiny and planet side 2 are gonna be its main competitors.... draw your own conclusions

Naivefanboi · January 2015

Abr4hn wrote: »

Yasha wrote: »

Exactly man, this is the best ESO news I have heard since launch.

I agree... ESO going B2P is very good news. I am looking forward to these changes.

On the other hand, to all the whiners in this and other threads:

The game is going B2P. Period. The end.

If it really, really bothers you that much, why are you still here? Rather than throwing childish tantrums in the forums, your time would be better spent searching for some other game to play instead of ESO (now that going B2P has ruined it for you).

BTW, those other games are all thataway =======>

Have fun.

some will stick around to watch it crash and burn just like theyve done with destiny and swtor.
alltho in swtors defense they are making more money then ever now. hows that content doe?

Naivefanboi · January 2015

Wolfshead wrote: »

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

No MMO with an ingame cash shop is worth playing. F2P ruins games in sooo many ways.

Yet Blizzard have P2P + in game cash shop and see people still keep playing WoW and use there cash shop and say that only F2P te ruin games is very short sight of you say and now blizzard is work on sell in game token that gave you can subscribe time for in game gold which you can other use or sell to other player.

Personal i have say that what blizzard is 100 time worst then what ZoS is doing.

theyre doing that so people dont get scammed buying/selling game time cards fo cash. its already happening in one form or another. ever seen a gold ad in eso. same thing basicly

Naivefanboi · January 2015

Ethona wrote: »

Bouvin wrote: »

dietlime wrote: »

I somehow doubt the game collapses now that it's free to play. Think about all the people that just sort of like it, bought it, but don't subscribe because they don't feel that strongly about it? Those people will actually play now.

Ya.

Just look at LoTRO after F2P.

It pretty much died, despite the influx of new players at the beginning of the switch.

Why did that happen? Because you actually need revenue to pay for game development. And when revenue starts to drop off, guess what? Game development ceases.

That's exactly what happened with LoTRO.

WHAT? What you've stated about LOTRO is 100% completely false! LOTRO has had a handful of fairly large expansions with good content since it's F2P conversion and the world has tons of active players. You shouldn't spread misleading info because you're emo taking arrows to both knees at random.

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link a source please

BBSooner · January 2015

Bouvin wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Ethona wrote: »

Bouvin wrote: »

dietlime wrote: »

I somehow doubt the game collapses now that it's free to play. Think about all the people that just sort of like it, bought it, but don't subscribe because they don't feel that strongly about it? Those people will actually play now.

Ya.

Just look at LoTRO after F2P.

It pretty much died, despite the influx of new players at the beginning of the switch.

Why did that happen? Because you actually need revenue to pay for game development. And when revenue starts to drop off, guess what? Game development ceases.

That's exactly what happened with LoTRO.

WHAT? What you've stated about LOTRO is 100% completely false! LOTRO has had a handful of fairly large expansions with good content since it's F2P conversion and the world has tons of active players. You shouldn't spread misleading info because you're emo taking arrows to both knees at random.

Uh, no. The quality of content has been steadily decreasing since SoA. LotRO is a shell of what it was, even if we part opinions in what "quality content" LotRO has to different people it's clear the store is pointed to at every opportunity, and was confirmed by Sapience around a year ago iirc that they have no plans on developing new raids in the foreseeable future (content that apparently didn't have the quality/support to be created when compared to the return they could get by popping out some more landscape fetch quests and sell it in the store). It truly is a shame what happened to LotRO (founder here).

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

I'd say Mines of Moria (which was before F2P) was a quality expansion.

Everything after that was pretty crappy and the players knew it.

Mirkwood was "okay" but most of us blazed through it in about a week. It just went downhill after that.

I can agree to that. Though SoA were my favorite times, I have to say that I had a lot of fun with MoM.

Hortator Mopa · January 2015

dietlime wrote: »

I really love ESO, in a sort of casual way. I love to play it on-and-off, and some weeks I just find myself interested in other games. money is really tight these days for many Americans.

I'm sure I am not alone in being excited to be able to play for free! I have two computers, two accounts, but can't afford $30 a month just for one game for me and my girl, when so many others don't have a subscription fee.

Don't sell anything that gives other players and advantage.

I would avoid selling shortcuts, too.

yea screw all the people who want a good game with constant updates and no p2w features because you want to play it free.

Sylvyr · January 2015

Abr4hn wrote: »

Yasha wrote: »

Exactly man, this is the best ESO news I have heard since launch.

I agree... ESO going B2P is very good news. I am looking forward to these changes.

On the other hand, to all the whiners in this and other threads:

The game is going B2P. Period. The end.

If it really, really bothers you that much, why are you still here? Rather than throwing childish tantrums in the forums, your time would be better spent searching for some other game to play instead of ESO (now that going B2P has ruined it for you).

BTW, those other games are all thataway =======>

Have fun.

What's worse? Whiners or whiners whining about whiners?

Everyone knows that anyone can leave and pointing that out in such a way seems... childish.

A lot of people are posting their concerns. A lot of experienced players from many games that have followed similar models. People that seem to care some some extent and don't want to see it happen here. People posting legit concerns and opinions.

On the other hand, to all the all the people with these GTFO responses:

Just shows lack of ability to dialogue well or care about those concerns to post something to alleviate or be generally constructive for others. If this is what you want from your peers, it won't be long before yall have each other on ignore and that'll make for a fun MMO experience.

Dave2836 · January 2015

Hortator Mopa wrote: »

dietlime wrote: »

I really love ESO, in a sort of casual way. I love to play it on-and-off, and some weeks I just find myself interested in other games. money is really tight these days for many Americans.

I'm sure I am not alone in being excited to be able to play for free! I have two computers, two accounts, but can't afford $30 a month just for one game for me and my girl, when so many others don't have a subscription fee.

Don't sell anything that gives other players and advantage.

I would avoid selling shortcuts, too.

yea screw all the people who want a good game with constant updates and no p2w features because you want to play it free.

We all know nothing is ever free. Therebis one thing I do like about the new b2p model. It encourages community growth and allows people who believe in the product after playing it for a while to pay what they feel the game is truly worth to them.

I bought the imp edition and had a recurring 6 month sub, but got so busy with real life I didn't have time to play until back in December. I'm ok with the $78 i put in that i never used because i wanted to play it. as a player that only played versions 1.0 and 1.57 I am reinforcing my decision to remain subbed because I see a BIG difference between then and now. The progression is smoother, the environment works better, i have a better experience overall than i did last april.

I can't tell you what to do with your money or what to do with your game, but i can tell you they have fixed a lot of problems that were present at launch and they do listen to player feedback.

If you fail to identify the your true reasonings for opposing this transition, how will the design team be able to address the primary and hidden objections you might or might not have?

Yasha · January 2015

Dave2836 wrote: »

Hortator Mopa wrote: »

dietlime wrote: »

I really love ESO, in a sort of casual way. I love to play it on-and-off, and some weeks I just find myself interested in other games. money is really tight these days for many Americans.

I'm sure I am not alone in being excited to be able to play for free! I have two computers, two accounts, but can't afford $30 a month just for one game for me and my girl, when so many others don't have a subscription fee.

Don't sell anything that gives other players and advantage.

I would avoid selling shortcuts, too.

yea screw all the people who want a good game with constant updates and no p2w features because you want to play it free.

We all know nothing is ever free. Therebis one thing I do like about the new b2p model. It encourages community growth and allows people who believe in the product after playing it for a while to pay what they feel the game is truly worth to them.

I bought the imp edition and had a recurring 6 month sub, but got so busy with real life I didn't have time to play until back in December. I'm ok with the $78 i put in that i never used because i wanted to play it. as a player that only played versions 1.0 and 1.57 I am reinforcing my decision to remain subbed because I see a BIG difference between then and now. The progression is smoother, the environment works better, i have a better experience overall than i did last april.

I can't tell you what to do with your money or what to do with your game, but i can tell you they have fixed a lot of problems that were present at launch and they do listen to player feedback.

If you fail to identify the your true reasonings for opposing this transition, how will the design team be able to address the primary and hidden objections you might or might not have?

Good post Dave, I too often have to take breaks from playing for work/life reasons.

ESO is the only mmo that I thought was actually worth paying a sub for (because the game is amazing and I could actually see work being done on it), but I am very happy that it has gone b2p, it actually incentivizes me to play it more than when it was a sub and I will be able to buy it for friends and play with them (most people I know wouldn't pay a sub for a game).

Hortator Mopa · January 2015

loooool. Logic, is strong.

starkerealm · January 2015

Bouvin wrote: »

phairdon wrote: »

Plantagenet wrote: »

I spend more than $30 a month on beard oil and salted almonds.

If you cant afford a subscription based game, you should prob look at your life/career choices rather than expect the game/world to conform to your lack of socioeconomic status.

Not everyone of the face of this planet are in the medium to top income bracket. Plus we do not know what out going's the poster has.

Mortgages, children, schooling, food, insurance, medical insurance/bills, dental work, rates etcetera, even running a vehicle can be expensive due high price of petrol & other cost's related to vehicles. Financial side of life is not easy for everyone, so paying a monthly sub for a game could be a luxury.

If things are so tight you can't afford a $15 a month sub, how did you pay for that $2k+ gaming machine?

Just curious....

Well, when I built my system I was working for a soul slurping corporation of doom. Now, I no longer work for them, and am self employed, which means... yeah, money's kinda tight.

I certainly can't sell the system because I do need it for my job. But, the 15 bucks a month is a noticeable chunk of my budget after things like food, rent, and utilities.

dietlime · February 2015

Yasha wrote: »

Dave2836 wrote: »

Hortator Mopa wrote: »

dietlime wrote: »

I really love ESO, in a sort of casual way. I love to play it on-and-off, and some weeks I just find myself interested in other games. money is really tight these days for many Americans.

I'm sure I am not alone in being excited to be able to play for free! I have two computers, two accounts, but can't afford $30 a month just for one game for me and my girl, when so many others don't have a subscription fee.

Don't sell anything that gives other players and advantage.

I would avoid selling shortcuts, too.

yea screw all the people who want a good game with constant updates and no p2w features because you want to play it free.

We all know nothing is ever free. Therebis one thing I do like about the new b2p model. It encourages community growth and allows people who believe in the product after playing it for a while to pay what they feel the game is truly worth to them.

I bought the imp edition and had a recurring 6 month sub, but got so busy with real life I didn't have time to play until back in December. I'm ok with the $78 i put in that i never used because i wanted to play it. as a player that only played versions 1.0 and 1.57 I am reinforcing my decision to remain subbed because I see a BIG difference between then and now. The progression is smoother, the environment works better, i have a better experience overall than i did last april.

I can't tell you what to do with your money or what to do with your game, but i can tell you they have fixed a lot of problems that were present at launch and they do listen to player feedback.

If you fail to identify the your true reasonings for opposing this transition, how will the design team be able to address the primary and hidden objections you might or might not have?

Good post Dave, I too often have to take breaks from playing for work/life reasons.

ESO is the only mmo that I thought was actually worth paying a sub for (because the game is amazing and I could actually see work being done on it), but I am very happy that it has gone b2p, it actually incentivizes me to play it more than when it was a sub and I will be able to buy it for friends and play with them (most people I know wouldn't pay a sub for a game).

This! 1,000 times this. Sometimes I just have a couple weeks where I feel like taking a break. I'd rather not have to make the decision between "unsub for a full month" (and, incidentally stop playing and start playing around specific dates) or basically throwing my money away.

rawne1980b16_ESO · February 2015

dietlime wrote: »

WHERE IS MY TES:6 BETHESDA, GET PUBLISHING

Fallout 4 will come next then it will be TES:6.

On topic....

Me and my wife both have decent jobs and a pretty good income, i'll still be dropping my sub to play for free.

I have other MMO's I play as well as putting a bit of time in Planetside 2 and Warframe. ESO is my "part time" game.

I played for about 6 weeks at launch and then left until last week. Makes things a bit easier when the mandatory subs vanish. I won't have to pay just to have a potter around.

Only content i'm waiting for is Dark Brotherhood, Thieves Guild and housing. I can't see any of those coming this year so no reason to keep paying. I'll probably play it a lot more when I don't need to pay, works out quite well for me.

raglau · February 2015

Its not a socioeconomic thing, its a quality thing.

I am fortunate in that I sit in the top 1% of Uk earners but I wont renew my latest 6 month sub. ZoS simply don't offer the quality level that deserves a reward IMO.

However well off one is all things have a value in life, and sad as it is to admit, ESO does not even meet the level of quality of a good F2P game.

Mercutio · February 2015

If we could get back on the subject of beard oil, is there a preferred brand (preferably available through Amazon Prime)? And while we are at it, is Dollar Shave Club a good deal?

raglau · February 2015

Dollar Shave is such a good deal that I even have them do my back