Think it will bring in more than the amount that leave, but not sure how many newcomers will stay.

It will bring a much younger crowd to be sure. Adolescents who would otherwise need their parents' CC for a subscription, for example.

Who knows how many players will come and stay long term though. I think the gaming industry is highly competitive, and it's tough to gauge how a game will do with a relaunch (particularly after a pretty rocky original launch which killed a lot of the hype).

If I had to guess I'd say we'll see a pretty good influx of new players for a couple of months, but I don't think the retention rate will be very good at all. I think about 6 months after TU launches game population will be back to about where it is now. This is wild speculation, and I base it only on the fact that the gameplay in ESO is pretty mediocre/generic, and the people playing it tend to be die-hard TES fans. So I think the game population will remain pretty much unchanged long term as the die-hard fans that are here now stick around.

Arandear wrote: »

how many do you think will come in and try ESO once it's B2P? I imagine we will get quite a few, and lot's who bought at release and will come back to try it. (PC Only)

More than 5, less than 500,000. Over/under betting starts at 5K gold.

Kilandros wrote: »

Who knows how many players will come and stay long term though. I think the gaming industry is highly competitive, and it's tough to gauge how a game will do with a relaunch (particularly after a pretty rocky original launch which killed a lot of the hype).

If I had to guess I'd say we'll see a pretty good influx of new players for a couple of months, but I don't think the retention rate will be very good at all. I think about 6 months after TU launches game population will be back to about where it is now.

There may be a net gain from those who try it and like it because of all of the hype and actually stick around, but it could very well be a small gain after the initial rush, with another small net gain of short temp term players who are replenished as a part of constant turnover.

Of course, it is technically possible ZOS will make the game so incredibly awesome over the next 6-9 months that lots of new players and former scoffers will sub to ESO Plus and the Crown Shop will remain minor vanity and low quality convenience items only for years to come. I suspect that is what many in the company and many of the most loyal ESO fans are hoping for as the outcome.

Kilandros wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

It will bring a much younger crowd to be sure. Adolescents who would otherwise need their parents' CC for a subscription, for example.

Say, I didn't even think of that... I need to make sure my nephew knows about this! He got ESO and played it for a couple of months, but the subscription fee kept him from continuing to play.

Overall I don't like the idea of a younger crowd being brought in, but I make an exception for my nephew

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. When Asheron's call launched I needed my parents' CC for the first couple of years, so I can relate.

Us older folks sometimes find it difficult to tolerate young whipper snappers.

Actually, I'd never judge someone based on their age. I play tabletop miniature games too, and I often find myself playing against kids as young as 12 (although most of the people I play with are in the 20s-40s age range), and I'm always happy to do so and help them learn the game better. In general I find the younger crowd to be more likely to be obnoxious and immature, but that's just a generalization, and I prefer to treat a younger gamer with the same respect I give the older ones until and unless he/she gives me a reason to do otherwise.

I'm hoping that of the initial burst of sales due to the model people actually stay. It will be fairly easy to tell how much retention there is over the long term by the pace of updates/what few updates involve (diverse content vs what can be marketed to the store).

4 people I know will be joining and then 2 returning guildies. now the question is after 6 months how many will still be playing

Less than ZOS thinks. I don't think devs realize that the player community, as a whole, are wising up to the cash shop model. It's not as easy to trick us as it used to be.

If I had to guess I would say about 20. Maybe 30

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Game codes have went from $12-15 to over $30 nearly overnight.

There will be a large influx of players and with it headaches. Once the three-month honeymoon is over there will be less headaches.

I think a net loss on pc after 3 months and a similar size on x box and ps

But to be honest I think ZOS are doing it at the right time though.. AFTER Neverwinter MMO hits console. Neverwinter will be on console before ESO so maybe most of them will stay there

Considering how the servers handle the current player load. A better question might be how many of that initial burst will ZOS drive away with poor maintenance? How will Cyrodiil handle it?

How many that do stay will spend enough money to not just make up for but to make more than a long term subscription could have earned?

How many resources will be allocated to insure that items on the cash shop are worth purchasing so that enough players spend money on it that the company makes a profit?

Considering the 1 year delay between PC and Console launch of the core game, how much of a delay can PC players expect between content updates now that they are to release on 3 platforms simultaneously?

How long before the box price is lowered to entice more people to 'try it out'?

How long before the sub price is lowered because people realize it is cheaper to buy crowns as you need them and to purchase DLC than it is to subscribe and rent dlc?

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