If we're adding drinking, drugs, gambling, and loan sharks, we definitely need to follow through and add women of ill repute. I mean, hey, we had the house of earthly pleasures in morrowind...
If we're adding drinking, drugs, gambling, and loan sharks, we definitely need to follow through and add women of ill repute. I mean, hey, we had the house of earthly pleasures in morrowind...
If we're adding drinking, drugs, gambling, and loan sharks, we definitely need to follow through and add women of ill repute. I mean, hey, we had the house of earthly pleasures in morrowind...
SlayerSyrena wrote: »I wouldn't mind the addition of some emotes (such as smoking a pipe, walking drunk, etc ...) that would be awesome. BUT, I still voted no as I'm really not interested in prostitution being a thing in Elder Scrolls (I mean, look at that first comment. Don't want to go down that slippery slope as I prefer the maturity in ES to stay as it always has been, subtle and, at times, funny.)
WraithAzraiel wrote: »Outstanding! Keep it coming, folks! Gimme why's and why-not's!
WraithAzraiel wrote: »SlayerSyrena wrote: »I wouldn't mind the addition of some emotes (such as smoking a pipe, walking drunk, etc ...) that would be awesome. BUT, I still voted no as I'm really not interested in prostitution being a thing in Elder Scrolls (I mean, look at that first comment. Don't want to go down that slippery slope as I prefer the maturity in ES to stay as it always has been, subtle and, at times, funny.)
I never suggested prostitution. I suggested smoking, drinking and gambling. 2 of which are already in the game in some form.
It's not the addition of these things will lead to an evolution of the addition of hookers and blow. There's no natural evolution. It's a controlled system.
It's not like a week or two after the devs code this stuff in, random hookers and venereal diseases start springing up of their own accord. It would have to be programmed in.
Saying no for the sake of not wanting it to follow the natural "GateWay" progression that is realistic vices, is unreasonable and unfounded. Nothing can enter the game that the devs don't place there on purpose(with the exception of bugs).
SlayerSyrena wrote: »WraithAzraiel wrote: »SlayerSyrena wrote: »I wouldn't mind the addition of some emotes (such as smoking a pipe, walking drunk, etc ...) that would be awesome. BUT, I still voted no as I'm really not interested in prostitution being a thing in Elder Scrolls (I mean, look at that first comment. Don't want to go down that slippery slope as I prefer the maturity in ES to stay as it always has been, subtle and, at times, funny.)
I never suggested prostitution. I suggested smoking, drinking and gambling. 2 of which are already in the game in some form.
It's not the addition of these things will lead to an evolution of the addition of hookers and blow. There's no natural evolution. It's a controlled system.
It's not like a week or two after the devs code this stuff in, random hookers and venereal diseases start springing up of their own accord. It would have to be programmed in.
Saying no for the sake of not wanting it to follow the natural "GateWay" progression that is realistic vices, is unreasonable and unfounded. Nothing can enter the game that the devs don't place there on purpose(with the exception of bugs).
Yes, and I regret editing out the part that said, "I know the OP didn't say this." Because, I do know that is not what you were suggesting. I'm just saying that is where the mindset would lead to (again, I will point to the very first reply in this thread).
'It's not like a week or two after the devs code this stuff in, random hookers and venereal diseases start springing up of their own accord. It would have to be programmed in.'
So programming has to be involved first? What a relief! I honestly had no idea that is how games worked! :P (Again, I am saying that this would lead to a call for such content to be added. There was a much earlier thread like this that went exactly in the same direction I mentioned.)
And again, I'm all for the emotes (drunkstagger, smokepipe, etc ...) to be added, as those are harmless (and good for rp for that matter).
TL;DR: OP has good suggestions. Just worried others might push for worse content to go with it.
SlayerSyrena wrote: »TL;DR: OP has good suggestions. Just worried others might push for worse content to go with it.
If we're adding drinking, drugs, gambling, and loan sharks, we definitely need to follow through and add women of ill repute. I mean, hey, we had the house of earthly pleasures in morrowind...
Beowulf_McCallum wrote: »SlayerSyrena wrote: »TL;DR: OP has good suggestions. Just worried others might push for worse content to go with it.
The justice system will allow you to murder townsfolk. ....drinking, drugs and prostitution are somehow worse than taking an innocent life??
please explain how your logic led you to this conclusion.
SlayerSyrena wrote: »Beowulf_McCallum wrote: »SlayerSyrena wrote: »TL;DR: OP has good suggestions. Just worried others might push for worse content to go with it.
The justice system will allow you to murder townsfolk. ....drinking, drugs and prostitution are somehow worse than taking an innocent life??
please explain how your logic led you to this conclusion.
First, stop putting words in my mouth. Read my post. I didn't say that I was against drinking and drugs in this game. Hello, there is plenty of that in the game already (sujamma and skooma for example) and I said, clearly, that emotes involving those would be good for rp.
Secondly, I think you know exactly why the Justice system is not the same as implementing Prostitution in the game. It's a different type of darkness, and one that is controversial, and I don't think it'd reflect well on the Elder Scrolls game titles in general.
I love how people are all for getting drunk (which leads to tens of thousands of deaths per year), smoking (which kills nearly as many from cancer per year), doing drugs (which kills the users and nearby individuals alike on occasion), and mob-style loan sharking (which entails shakedowns, beatings, extortion, and assassination), but the second you mention prostitution... no, cant have a random kid springing up once in a while, or living with an itch for the rest of your life, that's pushing the moral envelope just TOO FAR.
People really have messed up priorities these days. Push the violence and greed, but withhold the love.
People really have messed up priorities these days. Push the violence and greed, but withhold the love.