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Vice: Drinking, Smoking, Gambling ....oh my!

  • WraithAzraiel
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    Drinking games! Smoke shapes! Casinos!
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

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  • WraithAzraiel
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    Vote moar! It's a new year! Your resolution should be to smoke more, drink more, and win more gambles!
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

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  • Lynnessa
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    ESO combined with GTA... hm... could be fun.
  • Lovelyn
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    NO. That would be ***. You can RP all that stuff... more emotes would be cool. I'm not really complaining, but I would like to do handshakes, hugs, or headbutting as a social interaction tool. Maybe because I like hugs so much... Hugs are nice.
  • Darkrogue671
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    Nothing says immersion like a Nord finishing a great battle and heads to the nearest inn to gulp a gallon or two of mead, blow some smoke rings, and toss a few gold to the "morale officer" for a night.

    The exact opposite of immersion is to have your game of knights & barbarians be PG rated for an MA+ theme. But, yanno, the vision was console bound anyways. Good luck getting Microsoft & Sony to approve that. Pffffffffft!
  • Lovelyn
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    I still want fatalities... like I had in Skyrim at LEAST, but this is not Skyrim. Or I could summon dragons and shout my enemies away.
  • Faugaun
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    That's an overwhelming yes. lol
  • rexisnotmydogb14_ESO
    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    Did you see the people flipping out when they found out some of the NPCs where gay?

    the gay happens folks. People flip out all the time about it. But it still happens, esp in TES games. This will never change and I love them for it.

    Want more smoking emotes, already a drinking one. LOTRO had a smoking spell that actually rezzed. I want sitting at a table and playing cards, alone or with a group. Mini games are a waste of time IMO but people like them so that's cool.

    What I'd like is a karma system that counts up your sins and maybe endgame can weigh the balance of your power. Like SWKOTOR. The quests are already set up like that but I've seen no consequences for my choices. letting people die?? TES always had a reputation meter. where is that?
  • Flynch
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    Let's Witcher 2 this whole place up imo.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    Yes, yes, yes.

    The game has a mature rating, so add more mature themes to general gameplay.

    I would want it all... be it pub minigames to compete in (bonus if both vs NPC and vs player options), characters with an substance abuse problem (looking at my orc blacksmith alt - would be neat if overindulging in brews gave you the "drunk" effect you get during that one "celebration" quest in the rift...), enhanced fatalities ("off with their heads", as the red queen said...), vice emotes (smoke that pipeweed!) ladies and gentlemen of ill repute which player characters can actually hire for their services... (if we had a decent disease system -different thread- I'd add that danger to some of them too... until then, buff or debuff sounds like a decent idea...), and of course some reputation system that actually gives you consequences for your actions (never forget how delighted I was in Fallout2 when the prude matron of the one crime clan in new reno would not want to deal with my character due to her starring in naughty movies... that's the stuff!)

    Still, we shall see if anything comes, sadly gamemekers are a lot more reluctant to take chances in this regard then other industries... I expect the "computer games are just for kids" stigma is still strong, and of course some people frothing at the mouth at the merest hint of sideboob (Mass Effect, I am looking atcha) don't help much... I mean, we do not even have uncovered boobies like age of conan gave their players...
  • bosmern_ESO
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    I'd rather have them fix PvP long before this.
    ~Thallen~
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    With the introduction of the Justice System, our larcenous and murderous cravings have been given an outlet. But is it enough?

    I'd like to put this back in the public's eye to get a stronger feel for the opinion of the masses.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

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  • PKMN12
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    No feeling one way or the other
    seriously, There has not been even anything related to Skooma addition since Daggerfall and there has never been any other Drinking or vice related effect in ANY elder scrolls games. No, it is not needed
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    seriously, There has not been even anything related to Skooma addition since Daggerfall and there has never been any other Drinking or vice related effect in ANY elder scrolls games. No, it is not needed

    There's a quest in Skyrim where you go and party too hard and you wake up in a completely different town and have to follow the questline to figure out what the hell happened to you. - Drinking.

    There's a quest IN Cyrodiil in THIS game, that rewards you with a trophy called Nirnroot Wine, that gives you a screen effect for a few seconds. - Drinking.


    I'm suggesting these be turned into mini-games. If you lose a drinking contest, then you black out and have to complete a short quest to get your gear or a game-generated trinket that your character CANNOT live without.

    Gambling mini-games would provide another money sink.

    Smoking could just be emotes for all I care. Fact of the matter is the only thing that gives this game an M rating is the fact that you kill critters and other players.

    Not very dynamic in my opinion.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

    P2PBetaTesters
    #Tamriel_BETA_Team
    #BETA_TESTER4LYF
    DominionMasterRace
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  • Sylvyr
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    This game needs more debauchery. Bring it. Let's put TES in ESOTU!
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  • Shunravi
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    seriously, There has not been even anything related to Skooma addition since Daggerfall and there has never been any other Drinking or vice related effect in ANY elder scrolls games. No, it is not needed
    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Skooma_Den
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • eliisra
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    TL;DR: OP has good suggestions. Just worried others might push for worse content to go with it.

    The justice system will allow you to murder townsfolk. ....drinking, drugs and prostitution are somehow worse than taking an innocent life??

    please explain how your logic led you to this conclusion.

    It's different. Mature rated does not mean X rated.

    Sex is private and personal. Seeing someone killing an NPC that re-spawns 1 minute later is not.

    I would feel pretty awkward about guildies and players around me openly buying sex from NPC's, than chatting about it in a dude-ish way. They might as well send me tells about how their jerking of as far as I'm concerned.

    There's a reason why you cant buy hookers in MMO's, but possible in single player games. It's private stuff. Fellow gamers, sharing the same space and server, dont want be exposed to others sexuality and urges. Doesn't matter if it's pixels, still uncomfortable knowing that the guy standing next is really excited, because he just paid 500 golds to start some erotic scene with a lusty argonian maid.

    Would how ever not mind NPC's being prostitutes just standing there, adding to scenery and atmosphere.
  • Elridge
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    ever since beta when I saw a hookah in the game, it was even part of the riddle quest in Auridon, I've wanted an emote to /smokehookah or be able to buy one to use or something like that. If you look around you'll notice these water pipes alllll over the place. I even submitted feedback about it before.

    Whether it's just an emote or actually has an effect like wobbly screen, smoke haze, things like that, I personally don't care either which way. I just think it would be cool to visually be able to sit down, cross my legs and use a hookah with my khajiit, it would be double cool if people could sit around one and share it, like I do with my friends. :)
    Edited by Elridge on March 19, 2015 8:02PM
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  • Naor_Sarethi
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    I demand Slaves ! Why can't i buy myself a few Bretons and Orcs and have them carry my stuff?
    Where the hell is my Skooma?
    Why can't i join a daedric cult?

    Pegi 18... you have all the freedom in the world now use it !

    Oh and edit... fatalities would be great.
    Aim for a mature audience and it'll stay loyal.
    Aim for kids, and you'll water your game down to nothing because you'll never keep them happy.

    And PPS: Kids shouldn't be playing the game in the first place... technically lel.
    Edited by Naor_Sarethi on March 19, 2015 8:00PM
  • Akselmo
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    Let me be drunk and stumble into fight! Would be fun if drinking too many alcoholic drinks would make your camera wobble and maybe make your controls weird, such as mirroring the keys: Pressing left would make the character walk right and so on.
    Hun-Tra@Akselmo (EP-EU-PC)
    A fan of TES-series since 2005.
  • Beowulf_McCallum
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    eliisra wrote: »
    TL;DR: OP has good suggestions. Just worried others might push for worse content to go with it.

    The justice system will allow you to murder townsfolk. ....drinking, drugs and prostitution are somehow worse than taking an innocent life??

    please explain how your logic led you to this conclusion.

    It's different. Mature rated does not mean X rated.

    Sex is private and personal. Seeing someone killing an NPC that re-spawns 1 minute later is not.

    I would feel pretty awkward about guildies and players around me openly buying sex from NPC's, than chatting about it in a dude-ish way. They might as well send me tells about how their jerking of as far as I'm concerned.

    There's a reason why you cant buy hookers in MMO's, but possible in single player games. It's private stuff. Fellow gamers, sharing the same space and server, dont want be exposed to others sexuality and urges. Doesn't matter if it's pixels, still uncomfortable knowing that the guy standing next is really excited, because he just paid 500 golds to start some erotic scene with a lusty argonian maid.

    Would how ever not mind NPC's being prostitutes just standing there, adding to scenery and atmosphere.

    I'm not looking for a 'hot coffee mod' addition.... heck it could even fade to black for all I care. But I ask the question, why is excessive violence accepted while something like the house of Dibella is not? it IS part of the gameworld. and we already have 'morale officers' (read between the lines there) in riften and go talk to the NPCs in the thieves den in Windhelm (there's a particular male dancer) Lighten up people :) It can be done in a way that isn't explicitly vulgar
  • Akselmo
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    eliisra wrote: »
    TL;DR: OP has good suggestions. Just worried others might push for worse content to go with it.

    The justice system will allow you to murder townsfolk. ....drinking, drugs and prostitution are somehow worse than taking an innocent life??

    please explain how your logic led you to this conclusion.

    It's different. Mature rated does not mean X rated.

    Sex is private and personal. Seeing someone killing an NPC that re-spawns 1 minute later is not.

    I would feel pretty awkward about guildies and players around me openly buying sex from NPC's, than chatting about it in a dude-ish way. They might as well send me tells about how their jerking of as far as I'm concerned.

    There's a reason why you cant buy hookers in MMO's, but possible in single player games. It's private stuff. Fellow gamers, sharing the same space and server, dont want be exposed to others sexuality and urges. Doesn't matter if it's pixels, still uncomfortable knowing that the guy standing next is really excited, because he just paid 500 golds to start some erotic scene with a lusty argonian maid.

    Would how ever not mind NPC's being prostitutes just standing there, adding to scenery and atmosphere.

    I'm not looking for a 'hot coffee mod' addition.... heck it could even fade to black for all I care. But I ask the question, why is excessive violence accepted while something like the house of Dibella is not? it IS part of the gameworld. and we already have 'morale officers' (read between the lines there) in riften and go talk to the NPCs in the thieves den in Windhelm (there's a particular male dancer) Lighten up people :) It can be done in a way that isn't explicitly vulgar

    Thank you for saying this. How come violence is like "who cares" but sex is the most horrific thing on earth?

    A fade to black scene and some 10 minute joke-buff is all there is really needed, if they're going to add that kind of stuff in the game. Most likely they wont because people for some reason get uppity about sex, even in mature rated games, but have you played older Elder Scrolls games? There is nudity and no shame.

    Edited by Akselmo on March 19, 2015 9:06PM
    Hun-Tra@Akselmo (EP-EU-PC)
    A fan of TES-series since 2005.
  • Vyle_Byte
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    Yes! Give me the goods! I want screen-shaking drunkytimes, hazy smoke clouds, and the rush of adrenaline from games of chance! Why not, throw in loan sharks too! I'm looking at you, Thieves Guild
    OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There are plenty of hookahs already around, I want to be able to use them!!! Could totally sit in a circle around hookah with friends and have a blast! :smiley:

    Boozing, toking, women/men of the night, gambling, sure... bring it on!

    I like the idea of emotes for stuff too, pull out a pipe... lean back on pole, oh yeah haha!

    Why?
    Because... fun!!!!!!!!!
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