Ok now done my third zone since 1.5.5 and my second zone in Gold Cadwells I am playing DC btw. I started Deshaan 86% into VR 6 so 14% short of VR7 or 140k xp. I have now finished the whole of Deshaan and by that I mean I have cleared all Delves/Skyshards/Lorebooks/POI/Exploration/All quests major and side quests and have killed every mob in my path and cleared all world bosses and cleared all dolmens and did the public dungeon quest.

At the end of all this I am only 71% through my level or 719751 (so closer to 72%) so approx. 280xp short of a VR rank. I we take it that I would of started Deshaan at 0% then I would be 860k xp into my level so 86% therefore being 140k xp short which is the exact same amount as the last zone Stonefalls.

So at my current rate in the next three zone's if the same continues at the end of it all I will only make it to VR9 at the end of the last zone with Gold Cadwells finished so 700k xp short of VR10 in total that 140k x 5 zones. So I will have to find another way to gain another 4.75 VR ranks in somewhere like Craglorn to get to VR14.

This shows that at the moment levelling via questing silver/gold route method is slower than it was prior to 1.5 as I have said previously prior to 1.5 you could easily level in the same method as I have above and level a Veteran Rank per zone comfortably and still be 10-15% through my next level

I agree that levelling is faster in 1.5.5 than it was in 1.5.4 but that because they reduced xp needed from 1.45mill to a straight million but levelling is still slower in 1.5.5 than it was prior to 1.5 with the old VP and I'm not talking about craglorn grinds please leave that method out of this discussion.

Now ZoS intention for 1.5 was for it to be quicker to level VR ranks than it was prior to 1.5 instead they have done the exact opposite and on the whole made it slower by about 20-25% while they have improved it from 1.5.4 to 1.5.5 and are closer to getting it to what it was prior to 1.5 there are still out and are quite a way out if they intend to make it faster than it was prior to 1.5.

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Alphashado wrote: »

Just another bad business decision in a series of bad business decisions.

What is killing the population of this game? VR1-VR14 is. Hands down, and it's not even close.

1-50 ESO is a great game. Good enough to bring in new players and retain old ones. But when the average player gets to VR1 and realizes what a terrible, terrible, Grind fest of forced questing awaits them. And they realize that lvl 50 means absolutely nothing... well that's when they decide to go and find a different game. Not to mention the straight up ridiculous idea of forcing everyone to play the other two alliances that they just finished vanquishing.....

Yes, many people are OK with the game post lvl 50. Myself included. But man oh man was it a terrible format. It absolutely boggles the mind why they would take the WORST part of this game and make it even worse. The average player does not consider grinding lvls as part of some kind of end game. They consider end game to be the stuff you do at max level. Well now it takes even longer to get to max lvl, and if all the reports are true, then 1.3 did absolutely nothing to speed it up.

The champion system is the only hope for ESO to somehow become the AAA MMO that it should be. Otherwise it will always just be a good game with a nich crowd. And it will likely go F2P.

Very true. I don't know who has been calling the shots over there at ZOS HQ, but I think ZOS should be considering other options. Like you said, they panicked and plopped the VR system on us, most people hated it, they then ignored many of us and made it worse by adding two more VR levels, and then this, removal of faster grinding options for those of us who hate the idea of effectively 150 levels.

I shall continue my test into Eastmarch but I will grind or gain XP another way to get me to level VR9 and at 0% through that level so it make it clearer when showing results.

Terror wrote: »

Thoughts of a new player, my first time through the game:

I have to admit, I just got started after the BETA ended due to RL issues. My wife and I are finding the veteran grind questionable. And I won't say it is the grind that is questionable, more so the ability to grind.

We loved questing 1-50, but we are both burnt out on questing, If i even mention questing to her at this point she logs off and tells me to have fun. Dungeons seriously lack replay-ability, given this isn't really a "dungeon crawler", and even grinding mobs for XP is horrible. So it seems we are being forced to quest which ultimately, at this point, we refuse to do. Not because we don't understand it, not because we don't need to, because its out right exhausting at this point in the game. And we play to have fun. We have been spending most of our time in PVP due to the lack of ability to level elsewhere, and at least in PVP we can still have fun, but it is painfully slow in the leveling department and it is hard to be considered viable even at v3. (Which we both are.)

I am all for the idea of stopping people from level capping quickly, I'm all for encouraging players to get out and see the game, and I know this is no easy problem to fix without completely breaking something but there HAS to be a better way.

While I do want to experience the other faction zones at some point, I honestly don't want to do that right this moment, and it feels bad that we are being forced into it.

And this is what killed the game for a great deal of players. The Vet zones are between you and the endgame with no other way to get there.

danno816_ESO wrote: »

In Deshan (silver) and am VR 3.6, Which seems correct for me so far. Will see how things go later on.

One thing though. Some quests reward only 499 xp or so. Like I just finished a pick up quest called "A Fair Warning" in the last public dungeon I did in the zone, and upon turn in it only rewards 499 xp (there are many like these).

Why would a quest ever give as much XP as 1 mob kill? These should be increased to at least a couple thousand.

Because, although that makes sense, there is nobody at Zeni who can do things with numbers. You know when those smart people get numbers and add them or multiple them and things? Yeah, Zeni can't do that.

Tierney369neb18_ESO wrote: »

PvP also needs to be tweaked for XP gain but I do not PVP much so would need someone that does PVP to give their test results and suggest changes.

it's pitiful

Currently, I seem to be gaining just under a level for each zone, doing almost everything, sometimes more than once.