Is LFG fixed yet?

Preyfar · November 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

If you're not able to form any group using the tool, can you provide the following information...

Healer
Dungeon (any of them)
Templar (lv 29)
Character is not in PVP

Hours of playing the new character (from low teens to lv 29) and constantly queued as a healer I never received a single group invite after constantly searching. It definitely makes the game's population look low when you can't find a single group (and I've been playing for six months, and even I have to go "Is there really nobody out there?").

diskiukas · November 2014

Never had a problem before , I've used search tool many times, even Veteran dungeons ( maybe little longer wait time , but still LFG tool was working) . Now I have V14, V8, V1 and level 13 toons and everyday I am looking to do group dungeons. TOOL DOES NOT WORK AT ALL ZOS.

Tailger · November 2014

I've tried it with two characters last weekend.

A vet11 set for Healer / DPS, dungeon set to all, was standing around Riften at he time. Not queued for Cyrodiil.

A level 38 in Eastmarch, set for Tank / DPS, dungeon set for all. Not queued for Cyrodiil, doing quests in Eastmarch.

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2014

Ok, thanks again guys. We're looking into this and will let you know as soon as we have an update.

Alphashado · November 2014

Audigy wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys. We are working on some improvements for the LFG tool, but it will take some time (ie: not in today's patch). In the meantime, you can do a couple things to help speed things up. For one, the tool automatically defaults you to a damage role - if you're comfortable taking on a healer or tank role, be sure to choose those as well! Also if you're looking to run a dungeon, choose "All" if you have no preference, and it will group you with the first available.

Gina,

I am wondering what improvements you guys want to add. We all know there is a Healer & Tank shortage, we also know the reasons for that (rude players in party, high responsibility, not much to gain besides the blame...).

I don't know any MMO that managed to fix that, so I wonder what you have in store.

Besides that, we have nothing to gain if we group up at ESO. There is no social score system that rewards players for being friendly, staying in a dungeon group until the end. Other games offer points that you can gain by playing with others, these points later can be used for a housing system (ok we don't have that either...) but you get the point.

Right now dungeons only serve one purpose, to run through while the daily is up and for this you wont find many tanks and healers as the general "blame" is always on them during those runs if a wipe happens.

I have been lvling up a DK tank lately. I've been completing every dungeon as I level up and I have been in que as a tank only.

Before 1.5 I almost always found a group within 5-20 mins if not instantly.

Since 1.5 I haven't been placed in a group once. I've waited in que for several hours with only the tank role selected.

There will always be a shortage of tanks and healers. But when a tank and healer are sitting in the LFG que for 2 hours waiting on dps, then the tool is most assuredly broken.

Razzak · November 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok guys, looks like there's something going on here, but we'd like to get some additional information to help nail this down. If you're not able to form any group using the tool, can you provide the following information:
What role(s) you picked

What activity you chose, and in which location if applicable

Your class and level

Were you queued for PvP at the same time

- DD role
- my level appropriate dungeon
- Nightblade, from lvl 12 to current lvl 42. In every zone, I pick it's own dungeon and queue for it.
- I am never queued for PVP

Enodoc · November 2014

loudent wrote: »

It's also because everyone has to be within 2 levels of each other.

This has got to be one of the more important problems, and would also likely be why I can't find a group for Craglorn at VR1.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok guys, looks like there's something going on here, but we'd like to get some additional information to help nail this down. If you're not able to form any group using the tool, can you provide the following information:
What role(s) you picked

What activity you chose, and in which location if applicable

Your class and level

Were you queued for PvP at the same time

DPS
World - Craglorn
Templar, VR1
For part of the time (after about 15 minutes of LFG searching, I queued for PvP, and was queued for about 5 minutes before getting into Cyrodiil, and I left LFG running for another 10 minutes or so after that)

While it may not help, and could actually result in more separation, it would be good if there were check-boxes for different activities under "World". For example, in Craglorn I would like to do the story quests, but (in the event of LFG actually working) it may put me in a group of people who want to grind, or do dailies, or delves. In other zones, you may get a group created with people who want to do Dark Anchors, or Group Bosses, or Delves. "World" is too vague, but just implementing these directly as filter options would probably result in never getting a group again. I like the idea of a different, menu-based system, as was suggested above.

Tanis-Stormbinder · November 2014

I just finally give up using the LFG tool and just started spamming neutral_face:

zZzleepyhead · November 2014

loudent wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Also if you're looking to run a dungeon, choose "All" if you have no preference, and it will group you with the first available.

Just about no one does this because there are very few people without preference. Almost everyone is either doing a the undaunted daily or the set of dungeons for their level or specific ones they missed leveling up.

You want us to select "all"? then give us a reason. The Undaunted quest line should have been available to all levels and required a group to be formed using the "all" option. That would have solved the grouping issue.

Gina was simply proposing a temporary solution to those people eager to run dungeons without preference. And the undaunted quest line does start at the beginning of the game. Although you level it up through achievements and not pledges. I'm not sure what you're trying to fix and how you would fix it.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok guys, looks like there's something going on here, but we'd like to get some additional information to help nail this down. If you're not able to form any group using the tool, can you provide the following information:
What role(s) you picked

What activity you chose, and in which location if applicable

Your class and level

Were you queued for PvP at the same time

Tank/Dps
vet Elden Hollow, vet Wayrest, vet "the piratey one" and ran AA as just dps.
Craglorn/ Grahtwood / Auridon
Yes, only once. Cyrodiil popped and idk what happened with dungeon queue.
v14 Sorc
in my experience nothing seems to work ):

mickeyx · November 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

Why is everyone complaining about the official LFG tool? It's been broken since launch and if ZOS can't fix it in 7.5 months, then they are not going to fix it any time soon.

I recommend using the chat window and hoping for the best.

This is false. At launch in leveld My NB with mix of dungeons and questing and i always got groups through LFG with in few minutes.

This specific problem with LFG started with 1.5 patch. it was working before that.

And i would rather just not play the game than spend hours spamming lfg. I wish i had more time at hands but i do not.

loudent · November 2014

zZzleepyhead wrote: »

loudent wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Also if you're looking to run a dungeon, choose "All" if you have no preference, and it will group you with the first available.

Just about no one does this because there are very few people without preference. Almost everyone is either doing a the undaunted daily or the set of dungeons for their level or specific ones they missed leveling up.

You want us to select "all"? then give us a reason. The Undaunted quest line should have been available to all levels and required a group to be formed using the "all" option. That would have solved the grouping issue.

Gina was simply proposing a temporary solution to those people eager to run dungeons without preference. And the undaunted quest line does start at the beginning of the game. Although you level it up through achievements and not pledges. I'm not sure what you're trying to fix and how you would fix it.

Yes, the undaunted quest lines start at the get go but, as was said, that only encourages you to run a dungeon once. Why would I select "all" when I only need a specific 3 for the undaunted line. If it worked chances are I would be pulled into a dungeon I've already done.

If the undaunted dailies were expanded to all levels and actually didn't specify a dungeon, just that you selected "all" in the tool, then everyone would be queuing up then you would get a lot more people doing that. because there would be a reason too.

Right now every 10 levels or so there is a set of 3 dungeons. I run each once because there is no reason for me to run them again. Give me a reason.

brandon.2023b14_ESO · November 2014

Class and lvl for me has been across the board. Vet 1 dragon knight queuing tank and DPS for dungeons both normal and vet, never find a group until 15-20 min of asking in zone chat. Other times it's with my lvl 27 Templar for both DPS and heals or my lvl 42 night blade, spend over an hour in queue and resort to zone chat. In all honesty I believe it's more a lack of people using the system and those who do often don't change their role from DPS which in turn clogs the system with a role nobody is looking for. This was addressed in a livestream I believe, the one with Paul Sage. And apparently clogging the system with DPS is part of the problem. Not to make the game like WoW, but their system is similar to what ESO has. The difference is you get asked to select your role when you queue. For example, I want to fungal normal, I would select dungeons, fungal normal, join queue, before it adds me to the queue a window pops up asking to select role. Doing it this way forces people into selecting the role they wish to play. If people want to DPS it the whole way with no heals or tank leave them to zone chat. As it would be harder to implement a "challenge" option and select roles of all tank, all heals and so on. The change mentioned above and one of the other comments that mentioned a menu system would drastically reduce wait times. If people can just join queue and never even pay attention to the fact they are queued as DPS when they are meant to be tank or heals the system will always overflow.

Razzak · November 2014

brandon.2023b14_ESO wrote: »

Class and lvl for me has been across the board. Vet 1 dragon knight queuing tank and DPS for dungeons both normal and vet, never find a group until 15-20 min of asking in zone chat. Other times it's with my lvl 27 Templar for both DPS and heals or my lvl 42 night blade, spend over an hour in queue and resort to zone chat. In all honesty I believe it's more a lack of people using the system and those who do often don't change their role from DPS which in turn clogs the system with a role nobody is looking for. This was addressed in a livestream I believe, the one with Paul Sage. And apparently clogging the system with DPS is part of the problem. Not to make the game like WoW, but their system is similar to what ESO has. The difference is you get asked to select your role when you queue. For example, I want to fungal normal, I would select dungeons, fungal normal, join queue, before it adds me to the queue a window pops up asking to select role. Doing it this way forces people into selecting the role they wish to play. If people want to DPS it the whole way with no heals or tank leave them to zone chat. As it would be harder to implement a "challenge" option and select roles of all tank, all heals and so on. The change mentioned above and one of the other comments that mentioned a menu system would drastically reduce wait times. If people can just join queue and never even pay attention to the fact they are queued as DPS when they are meant to be tank or heals the system will always overflow.

There is roughly the same number of DD, tank and healer players as it was prior to 1.5. We could get a group prior to 1.5. We can't get one now.
It's the LFG tool that is preventing us from getting a group, not what we do. You can queue as DD or tank and DD and you will still not get a group.

Alexium · November 2014

After fixing this tool, they must to add more filters to it: Non-veteran dungeons for veteran players, then specific activities in Craglorn (not only overall zone), and probably specific quest.

Darthryan · November 2014

This lfg tool just doesn't work at all. It will not group with anyone at all. Me and another person tried. We both picked the same dungeon same level and picked all three roles. It would not group us together. Then we tried a zone. Nothing. Then a vet dungeon. Nothing. It just doesn't work.

NadiusMaximus · November 2014

How many people need to do it for the lfg to form a group? Is two enough?
I always thought it was 4.

Razzak · November 2014

Any news about this? Maybe an update on how far the last week's solutions are from becoming a fix?

ThePlayer · November 2014

The gf tool does not work completely, perhaps before the patch was some hope, now zero.
It 's incredible that in a game where you pay don't repar quickly a tool so important, and do not even speak to patch ...
In real they said that there are problems (that discovery), then try to invite in your group a healer (maybe even the tank)) and then select all dungeons)).
1) My pg is a healer and i was in queude for five hours.
2) Is a mmo and i want to use the gf tool and do not write in zone chat every 3 minutes.
3) I pay! fix it quickly.

Cherryblossom · November 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok guys, looks like there's something going on here, but we'd like to get some additional information to help nail this down. If you're not able to form any group using the tool, can you provide the following information:
What role(s) you picked

What activity you chose, and in which location if applicable

Your class and level

Were you queued for PvP at the same time

Healer/DPS
All Dungeons Vet
Vet 6 Templar
Not queued for PVP

I have not had one group since reaching Vet. Didn't seem to have a problem before Vet.

Razzak · November 2014

Cherryblossom wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok guys, looks like there's something going on here, but we'd like to get some additional information to help nail this down. If you're not able to form any group using the tool, can you provide the following information:
What role(s) you picked

What activity you chose, and in which location if applicable

Your class and level

Were you queued for PvP at the same time

Healer/DPS
All Dungeons Vet
Vet 6 Templar
Not queued for PVP

I have not had one group since reaching Vet. Didn't seem to have a problem before Vet.

I think that post by Gina was a simple PR attempt to make us believe that they are actually working on it. I will give them the benefit of a doubt, but so many reports about LFG not working no matter what you do, and they can come up with nothing better than this?

But ... they at least wrote something else than "We read".

Zandil · November 2014

So still nothing in the new patch notes about this, is it actually broken or is it just a lack of people playing or using the Tool ?

Darkeus · November 2014

dont know about you but i consider fair to have free days to sub as long as this lfg tool didnt work, you kidding me? in 1 week i couldnt get grp for 1 dungeon...

Valen_Byte · November 2014

I bet the tool is fine. The problem really is that there are not very many people playing anymore. No one can find a group because there are no groups to be found. People are either playing solo or in PVP. Zos wont say that because they dont want everyone to know how low the population of Tamriel is.

Ysne58 · November 2014

I have never been able to find a group either. I gave up on it months ago.

Razzak · November 2014

Valen_Byte wrote: »

I bet the tool is fine. The problem really is that there are not very many people playing anymore. No one can find a group because there are no groups to be found. People are either playing solo or in PVP. Zos wont say that because they dont want everyone to know how low the population of Tamriel is.

No, ZOS themselves admitted there is a problem with LFG tool since 1.5. They changed the way players are grouped up in LFG tool with 1.5 and it appears this is giving them problems.
Before, it was possible to get a group, now, its mission impossible.

hammer_fella · November 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok, thanks again guys. We're looking into this and will let you know as soon as we have an update.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
You've done too much to destroy player confidence in this system (what little there ever was) for anyone to bother relying on it in the future. I sincerely doubt it can be salvaged. Asking in zone chat has always been a more productive means of finding appropriate group members. Now that LFG is seemingly completely unresponsive regardless of whether or not anyone else is even actually attempting to use it, it's very hard to imagine anyone continuing to make the effort.

ZOS, you were initially very vocal about how wonderful the new LFG system would be, a useful tool which we were told would help facilitate and assist with the inherent and plainly foreseeable difficulties forming a group poses given the new dungeon scaling system (one which effectively allows players ranging from level 10 to VR14 to run the same exact dungeon).

However, you've accomplished the opposite: you've killed it for good. Future fixes are most likely unimportant now. Public opinion is in and it's a stain that won't wash out: LFG doesn't work. No one likes it, no one needs it, and no one can be bothered with the hassle of trying to use it. As long as that is the majority opinion, it will remain a useless tool even if it is fixed for the small segment of the population with patience to wait however long that may be.

Let this be a lesson before your next premature update.

gresiac · November 2014

it works for me

whsprwind · November 2014

hammer_fella wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok, thanks again guys. We're looking into this and will let you know as soon as we have an update.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
You've done too much to destroy player confidence in this system (what little there ever was) for anyone to bother relying on it in the future. I sincerely doubt it can be salvaged. Asking in zone chat has always been a more productive means of finding appropriate group members. Now that LFG is seemingly completely unresponsive regardless of whether or not anyone else is even actually attempting to use it, it's very hard to imagine anyone continuing to make the effort.

ZOS, you were initially very vocal about how wonderful the new LFG system would be, a useful tool which we were told would help facilitate and assist with the inherent and plainly foreseeable difficulties forming a group poses given the new dungeon scaling system (one which effectively allows players ranging from level 10 to VR14 to run the same exact dungeon).

However, you've accomplished the opposite: you've killed it for good. Future fixes are most likely unimportant now. Public opinion is in and it's a stain that won't wash out: LFG doesn't work. No one likes it, no one needs it, and no one can be bothered with the hassle of trying to use it. As long as that is the majority opinion, it will remain a useless tool even if it is fixed for the small segment of the population with patience to wait however long that may be.

Let this be a lesson before your next premature update.

There's hope still yet, they just need to add some sort of "buff" to attract people to use it.

As far as i know, alot of people are holding out for it

snowmanflvb14_ESO · November 2014

so far since the changes I have not received a group at all. While with the old system that actually worked I would usually start beign group with people within an hour. What was nice is as the lfg tool filled us we coudl still ask in zone or guild for people to fill a group out. Much easier to do that if you need 1 or 2 people than a ful group of people. I que as dps and healer. I also pre-select that dungeon based on my lvl range and the ones I needed to run at their tier. Selecting all defeats that purpose. However, I have tried selecting all since you claim it works and as I said no groups at all.

P.S. i should add that the groups i have gotten now through zone spamming tend to be people that have been sitting in que as I have

Razzak · November 2014

Any news about this?