whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »

No Provisioning or Champion changes on the PST that I could find. I really wanted food and drink to stack. It bothers me that drink is useless.

@whbaresb14_ESO Update 6 isn't on the PTS yet.

Gidorick wrote: »

hopefully future updates will be closer to the 4 weeks than the 6 weeks of the 4-6 release window. Once in a while going over the 6 weeks is understandable, but this being only update 5... that is a little worrisome.

This is the biggest update since the launch of ESO, I'd be quite surprised if it takes them "only" 7 weeks

Is there anything in update 5 besides a bunch of balancing changes, few more quests through undaunted, dwemer armor, and maybe some dungeon or delve difficulty upgrades? Most of this could have been added in separate maintenance secession. I have not seen justice system in PTS so I don're see how that could be in there without testing. If it is coming out soon, what is the extent of the changes. Trying to keep positive but it seems as the momentum is starting to run out.

Voodoo wrote: »

What does this thread and this pic have in common?

There's a lot of spinning going on.

Not everyone is in sync here

Neizir wrote: »

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

she said "aiming", that's not an confirmation at all as the patch could get delayed.

@tordr86b_ESO Since when did a patch get delayed? There doesn't seem to be any reason to delay it anyway since there doesn't seem to be any issues.

He means Update, not patch, and Update 1 was 'delayed' one week. That is the only update that has been off schedule until now. Every other update has come during the expected week going all the way back to launch.

• Update 1: Expected week of May 12, actually May 22 (7 weeks)
• Update 2: Expected week of June 23, actually June 25 (5 weeks)
• Update 3: Expected week of August 4, actually August 5 (6 weeks)
• Update 4: Expected week of September 15, actually September 15 (6 weeks)
• Update 5: Expected week of October 27, actually Nov 3 (7 weeks)
• Update 6: Expected week of December 8 (5 weeks, projected)
• Update 7: Expected week of January 19 (6 weeks, projected)
• Update 8: Expected week of March 2 (6 weeks, projected)
• Update 9: Expected week of April 13 (6 weeks, projected)

Edit: I should note that I don't expect the updates to stay on a 6 week schedule. The projected update dates are just extensions of the maximum of their stated target of 4-6 weeks. I expect them to formally revise the schedule to 6-8 weeks, but I do not know when they will say this.

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Voodoo wrote: »

Also when the champion system does "start" to come up it is not just one patch it will slowly be implemented over many patches so no huge change with patch 6-7.

L2Read.

They already implemented 2 of the 3 changes.

It's really more like 2 of 5 changes.

lordrichter wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Voodoo wrote: »

Also when the champion system does "start" to come up it is not just one patch it will slowly be implemented over many patches so no huge change with patch 6-7.

L2Read.

They already implemented 2 of the 3 changes.

It's really more like 2 of 5 changes.

They claimed they can do it in 4 updates. I am not sure if Update 5 is the first of those or if they consider Update 4 to be the start. This is why my "Update release projections" run out to March 2015, if anyone cares to know.

You missed the part where we're getting attribute and skill points in the Vet ranks... though, to be fair, I don't remember that mentioned in the video you were citing. Which puts us at 1/5, but... eh, whatever.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We're happy to let you all know that Update 5 will be coming on Monday for NA, and Tuesday for EU!

I guess I need to stop derping around and actually max out my level 12 werewolf, then.

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Voodoo wrote: »

Also when the champion system does "start" to come up it is not just one patch it will slowly be implemented over many patches so no huge change with patch 6-7.

L2Read.

They already implemented 2 of the 3 changes.

It's really more like 2 of 5 changes.

They claimed they can do it in 4 updates. I am not sure if Update 5 is the first of those or if they consider Update 4 to be the start. This is why my "Update release projections" run out to March 2015, if anyone cares to know.

Update 5 is the second one. The first was lowering the difficulty of vet zones. This one is changing VP to XP. The one people are actually considering to be the champion system is the constellations which is part 3. The 4th is gear seasons which I don't think most people are even considering as part of the champ system even though technically it is.

Which is why I said 2/3.

Oh, right, there's the phase where the constellations will be active before the vet ranks are formally deep sixed.

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Voodoo wrote: »

Also when the champion system does "start" to come up it is not just one patch it will slowly be implemented over many patches so no huge change with patch 6-7.

L2Read.

They already implemented 2 of the 3 changes.

It's really more like 2 of 5 changes.

They claimed they can do it in 4 updates. I am not sure if Update 5 is the first of those or if they consider Update 4 to be the start. This is why my "Update release projections" run out to March 2015, if anyone cares to know.

Update 5 is the second one. The first was lowering the difficulty of vet zones. This one is changing VP to XP. The one people are actually considering to be the champion system is the constellations which is part 3. The 4th is gear seasons which I don't think most people are even considering as part of the champ system even though technically it is.

Which is why I said 2/3.

Oh, right, there's the phase where the constellations will be active before the vet ranks are formally deep sixed.

Vet ranks won't go away at that point. The two systems will coincide with each other for a while then the vet ranks should be removed at a later date.

Which is exactly what I said...

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We're happy to let you all know that Update 5 will be coming on Monday for NA, and Tuesday for EU!

Complete with 1.5.2 bugs because they didnt... get........ tested........


It's ok. Live client is for testing too.

Hoho, update on tuesday for us EU people. Well, I'm doing the laundry that day, so no gaming hours lost for me. Excellent, Smithers.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We're happy to let you all know that Update 5 will be coming on Monday for NA, and Tuesday for EU!

Looking forward to this update : )

egosumacunnus wrote: »

Edit: I should note that I don't expect the updates to stay on a 6 week schedule. The projected update dates are just extensions of the maximum of their stated target of 4-6 weeks. I expect them to formally revise the schedule to 6-8 weeks, but I do not know when they will say this.

Yup they are not spending as much money or time on the updates now and they will take longer.

I think they are spending as much time and money on the Updates. That is part of why I think they will change to a 6-8 week schedule.

They have a large amount of pre-announced content. If you go back to early statements, you will find what I consider to be several updates worth of 1.0 content. The unreleased items from this list are getting fewer and they are not being quick about telling us about new items. I feel that this is their "first year after release" list.

Now, obviously, I have no idea how they have their resources allocated. I expect that since they have been able to keep up with the Updates, and have been steadily releasing announced content, that the people working on Champion System were originally slated for something else. The Champion System was a disruption to the plan, something that they did not expect to be doing. Whatever work they wanted to do is obviously not being done and they have more people assigned to current update work than planned.

I think that they will run out of ready content that can be placed into Updates. The Champion System will have disrupted the pipeline that delivers content to the Update doorstep every 6 weeks. That means one of two strategies, either lighter updates every 6 weeks or a longer span between updates.

If they switch from 4-6 weeks to 6-8 weeks, they may be able to do both. They are only using the 6 week schedule anyway, so the 4-5 part of it is largely irrelevant. By placing it on a 6-8 week schedule they can do a light 6 week Update while still allowing for 8 weeks if content is almost ready, but not quite.