I'm also a fan of Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, and I generally like to play solo. However, I wouldn't fully agree with your characterization regarding endgame solo play.

Like you, it wasn't clear to me what the solo endgame was. But then I realized that the holy grail of solo endgame is pvp.

Solo pvp offers a ton of advantages compared to grouped pvp that many don't realize. For one, there's nobody on teamspeak telling you what to do, and you also won't find people on voice chat boasting about their skills or talking about crap that isn't even related to the game. As solo, you won't have to share a portion of the xp gained from kills that you would if you are grouped. Furthermore, if you are the only player in the area and you killed an entire enemy group, your AP gain is not "diluted" by others. There is also no disadvantage to being solo, since you get to use the same camps that everyone else does. Lastly, you are solo, and traveling around Cyrodiil like a boss.

Dont worry OP , more and more of us solo players are either following you right now or are going to soon enough.

Indeed , zen is making a good job of bleeding their TES fan subs more and more lols.

What does being soloable or not have to do with Elder Scrolls?

Elder Scrolls isn't a game style but a fantasy setting/ world.

And to answer your question (having played Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, a bit of Daggerfall and read both Elder Scrolls novels (see? not a game style)) = no.

You might find this an interesting listen:

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im a fan of morrowind, and i love solo type dungeons and all solo matterial.
i dont like oblivion, oblivion had some great parts to it but mostly i did not like it.
skyrim was better then oblivion but cannot ever compare to morrowind, skyrim had much greater parts in it "compared with oblivion and was far better then oblivion, but morrowind, Vvardenfell will allways be the best game ever made.
i prefer solo play in quests and dungeons. and also that anything that is in morrowind should allways be in elderscrolls online and allways be top priority in elder scrolls online.

I meant to edit and not quote myself... apparently I can't eat food and post on forums at the same time.

Hi

I'm not finding that many things I can't do solo.

I have Destinations installed and when I leave each area I find pretty much the only things that are undone are the Group Bosses.

I'm veteran level 9, and I've even done most of the group dungeons alone.

I just wait a couple of levels and then go back and do them later.

I just found one that I couldn't do because you had to have 2 people standing on pressure plates to continue, so I had to bail out on that one after getting most of the way through.

I am starting to feel like I need a break though, it's getting kind of repetitive, after a while the quest do seem all the same.

What I do find at veteran level is that there is seldom anyone else around.

I could do the group bosses in pre level 50 play because I could always find a casual player to help, now I never see anyone.

That's especially true of the Dolmens, I go there and stand around, kill a few bad guys and then run, but no one else ever shows up.

Mike

blisstree wrote: »

...I have enjoyed playing this game, but I feel they cater too much to guildees and groupies and pay no attention to us die-hard ES fans who believe in challenging ourselves through solo play. Craglorn - both upper and lower, as well as Cyrodiil already offer more to the guildees and groupees than it does to the rest of us ...

Personally, spend the majority of my time as a solo player in Cyrodiil, when not solo am duoing with my girlfriend, but never more.
Speaking as a solo player, Cyrodiil provides the richest experience in the game. Cyrodiil is the portion of the game that feels most like an online version of Elder Scrolls gameplay. Adventuring around exploring and questing, then bumping into totally unscripted and unpredictable combat with an enemy player reproduces the random encounters and dynamic combat mechanisms of the Elder Scrolls series far better than any of the PvE content in the game.

Craglorn, in contrast, is a poorly implemented map that serves only to exclude a large portion of the playerbase from participating in end-game PvE content without providing them with meaningful alternatives.
The zone would be better suited as extending solo play experience while scaling instances to groups in order to provide a challenge.
Craglorn is a slap in the face to players looking for additional content after completing the Veteran zones.

blisstree wrote: »

I just cancelled my subscription. I've been an Elder Scrolls fan for years, having played (multiple times) through Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. I have enjoyed playing this game, but I feel they cater too much to guildees and groupies and pay no attention to us die-hard ES fans who believe in challenging ourselves through solo play. Craglorn - both upper and lower, as well as Cyrodiil already offer more to the guildees and groupees than it does to the rest of us and yet I was informed that, although eventually they will release new higher level content for solo play, it won't be in the near future. They will continue to kiss the butts of the fickle hipsters who will quit the game when the next-big-thing pops up anyway. It is the thousands of die-hard ES fans like myself who made the franchise successful and made the mmo-version even possible and, quite frankly, I feel like we are being crapped on. So ESO, I bid you adieu. When you come to your senses and decide to actually add content for fans like myself, feel free to send me an email, but I won't hold my breath in anticipation.

This dude is awesome.

Aeratus wrote: »

I'm also a fan of Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, and I generally like to play solo. However, I wouldn't fully agree with your characterization regarding endgame solo play.

Like you, it wasn't clear to me what the solo endgame was. But then I realized that the holy grail of solo endgame is pvp.

Solo pvp offers a ton of advantages compared to grouped pvp that many don't realize. For one, there's nobody on teamspeak telling you what to do, and you also won't find people on voice chat boasting about their skills or talking about crap that isn't even related to the game. As solo, you won't have to share a portion of the xp gained from kills that you would if you are grouped. Furthermore, if you are the only player in the area and you killed an entire enemy group, your AP gain is not "diluted" by others. There is also no disadvantage to being solo, since you get to use the same camps that everyone else does. Lastly, you are solo, and traveling around Cyrodiil like a boss.

Re: PvP. The reason I detest pvp so much is because in every mmo I've played (about a half dozen over the past 6 or 7 years) I've noticed that most pvpers are rank and detestable cowards. I have yet to be involved in a pvp where my opponent was willing to go against me 1-on-1 without a bunch of their guild-mates joining in. I much prefer to challenge myself through solo play, finishing those dungeons/quests that most people seem to have to whine for help to do.

Fans of the franchise who value the single player experience were always going to be the tough sell for an MMO version. Still, they made quite a bit of this game playable solo, and some encounters even that are single player only. I feel like we need to meet them half ways when it comes to the one zone and dungeons made for group play in this multiplayer game, and not be so demanding that everything be single player friendly.

driosketch wrote: »

Fans of the franchise who value the single player experience were always going to be the tough sell for an MMO version. Still, they made quite a bit of this game playable solo, and some encounters even that are single player only. I feel like we need to meet them half ways when it comes to the one zone and dungeons made for group play in this multiplayer game, and not be so demanding that everything be single player friendly.

The best quest of the game (Main quest) is solo entirely.

Ganacampo wrote: »

What does being soloable or not have to do with Elder Scrolls?

Elder Scrolls isn't a game style but a fantasy setting/ world.

And to answer your question (having played Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, a bit of Daggerfall and read both Elder Scrolls novels (see? not a game style)) = no.

Nowhere in my post did I say that ES was a "game style". My point being that there are as many solo players as there are groupees and we deserve equal treatment. If they release an expansion catering to groupees, in all fairness (given that WE are spending money too) the next expansion should be targeted at solo players. But this is not the case. The ONLY people they are sucking up to are the groupees, but it is, in all likelihood, the solo players who came to this game because it was ELDER SCROLLS, not because it was the next big mmo everyone was talking about. And since it was money spent by those fans that made Elder Scrolls a profitable franchise to begin with, we deserve and should be given as much consideration as the hipsters that simply jump on whatever mmo is the flavor of the month.

blisstree wrote: »

It is the thousands of die-hard ES fans like myself who made the franchise successful and made the mmo-version even possible and, quite frankly, I feel like we are being crapped on.

I consider myself to be a die-hard Elder Scrolls fan, too, and I disagree with everything you've stated above, and I don't particularly care for your opinion of how you feel like being treated by ZOS.

I feel right at home in ESO, they've created with it something truly captivating and they succeeded in capturing the ES spirit and bringing it to the MMO genre.

So adieu! May you find happiness elsewhere.

khoukharev wrote: »

"...No whining. Instead - organize yourselves to make stuff done.

Bringing up a valid point is, in no way, "whining". Whining is when people complain that something is too tough for them to beat, or that a particular class is too strong and therefore unbalanced. Saying that I spend as much money on this game as any other subscriber and that seeing other people who play a particular style being catered to, but people who enjoy the style of gaming I do get the short end of the stick is not whining. It is making a sound and concrete argument for why they should give us equal treatment.

It's not that I find it hard to get a group, or that I need help fulfilling the parameters of a particular quest. I simply do not enjoy group play. I have never had a good experience in guilds, so do not wish to indulge in guilds. I enjoy the challenge of a good adventure that pits my mind (strategy) as well as my body (actual fighting skills). Nor am I saying that those who do enjoy the camaraderie a good group affords should not be allowed to indulge in group/guild play. (My doorway into rpgs and mmorpgs was, after all, table top gaming - D&D, Runequest, etc.)

The bottom line is, I pay for the game. If it no longer serves to entertain me, then I will not continue to pay to play. Which is the point of my original post - that I am no longer pleased with this game and, rather than simply quit, I am publicly informing Zenimax exactly why I am displeased, why I am no longer willing to pay for a subscription, and give them a chance to reply. In doing so, I hope that others who feel as I do will share their opinion and, perhaps, things will become a little more fair for all participants/consumers.