Not sure what class OP is playing.
My heavy-armor wearing Nord DK uses only 2-handers ( sword for stuff wut bleeds, axe for stuff wut don't, and daedra ) and last night in Eastmarch I was tearing through groups of 3 and 4, ar 3-4 levels above me, like hot snot through cheap kleenex. Bosses, too. If anything, it seems her DPS has been -boosted- with 1.4.3.
Um, no, I don't play pvp, because I hear it is still a lag fest and a mess. I hear they are making it so hitting a target adds stamina to your bar, which makes zero sense, instead a simple fix would make it so stamina attacks are stronger the more you invest into stamina. Its not rocket science.Even before 1.4 two handlers were fine for me. High burst, some survivability, AOE dot....I love it for PvE. These gripes are clearly based on someone getting stomped in PvP which I have only experienced in this game briefly. I am a long time PvP'er and would rather allow the game to mature, before stepping into that mess. So In the case of PvP, maybe the OP has some valid points, but most likely this is a result of resource imbalances and/or poor skill management.
Wicked_Wolf wrote: »Not sure what class OP is playing.
My heavy-armor wearing Nord DK uses only 2-handers ( sword for stuff wut bleeds, axe for stuff wut don't, and daedra ) and last night in Eastmarch I was tearing through groups of 3 and 4, ar 3-4 levels above me, like hot snot through cheap kleenex. Bosses, too. If anything, it seems her DPS has been -boosted- with 1.4.3.
Would you mind posting some details about your build/setup? I want to play a heavy armor 2h nord, but haven't been able to make it work at all. Would appreciate some tips if possible.
Surfinginhawaii wrote: »Wicked_Wolf wrote: »Not sure what class OP is playing.
My heavy-armor wearing Nord DK uses only 2-handers ( sword for stuff wut bleeds, axe for stuff wut don't, and daedra ) and last night in Eastmarch I was tearing through groups of 3 and 4, ar 3-4 levels above me, like hot snot through cheap kleenex. Bosses, too. If anything, it seems her DPS has been -boosted- with 1.4.3.
Would you mind posting some details about your build/setup? I want to play a heavy armor 2h nord, but haven't been able to make it work at all. Would appreciate some tips if possible.
I would also like to please see your build/setup and maybe then I can go back to doing two-hander.
Surfinginhawaii wrote: »Wicked_Wolf wrote: »Not sure what class OP is playing.
My heavy-armor wearing Nord DK uses only 2-handers ( sword for stuff wut bleeds, axe for stuff wut don't, and daedra ) and last night in Eastmarch I was tearing through groups of 3 and 4, ar 3-4 levels above me, like hot snot through cheap kleenex. Bosses, too. If anything, it seems her DPS has been -boosted- with 1.4.3.
Would you mind posting some details about your build/setup? I want to play a heavy armor 2h nord, but haven't been able to make it work at all. Would appreciate some tips if possible.
I would also like to please see your build/setup and maybe then I can go back to doing two-hander.
I'll try to post it when I get home from work. Honestly, theory-craft is not my strong suit. Basically, it's all about the self-heal passive based on fire damage... and then setting every mob on fire.
ehh-hehehe... firrrre.... firrre.
the thing is, we shouldn't have to use work arounds. As someone posted before heavy armor warriors are a staple of fantasy games, and forcing me to use medium armor or MAGIC like others are suggesting is not playing the game like I want to play, its playing it like they want me to play. You know, the whole selling point of this game.glitchmaster999 wrote: »Does anyone know if they are EVER going to make it viable to be a pure melee stamina based character? I came back after a hiatus because I was sick of how underpowered pure melee builds are, only to find they are still ridiculously underpowered.....
Haven't read other comments yet but I use two hander/dual wield on my nightblade, the sneak attack with wrecking blow is about 5k in PVE but you can also get about 800-900 dps with two handed single targe by heavy attack canceling wrecking blow. I'm not saying it isn't weak because it is missing a lot but there are work arounds, I use it in trials for the execute.
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Surfinginhawaii wrote: »Wicked_Wolf wrote: »Not sure what class OP is playing.
My heavy-armor wearing Nord DK uses only 2-handers ( sword for stuff wut bleeds, axe for stuff wut don't, and daedra ) and last night in Eastmarch I was tearing through groups of 3 and 4, ar 3-4 levels above me, like hot snot through cheap kleenex. Bosses, too. If anything, it seems her DPS has been -boosted- with 1.4.3.
Would you mind posting some details about your build/setup? I want to play a heavy armor 2h nord, but haven't been able to make it work at all. Would appreciate some tips if possible.
I would also like to please see your build/setup and maybe then I can go back to doing two-hander.
I'll try to post it when I get home from work. Honestly, theory-craft is not my strong suit. Basically, it's all about the self-heal passive based on fire damage... and then setting every mob on fire.
ehh-hehehe... firrrre.... firrre.
There is nothing in this game that can't be solved by the liberal application of fire.
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
GoatKnuckle wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
You must be thinking of Netscape Navigator. But you tried ... I guess. One gold star for one special snowflake.
Surfinginhawaii wrote: »Wicked_Wolf wrote: »Not sure what class OP is playing.
My heavy-armor wearing Nord DK uses only 2-handers ( sword for stuff wut bleeds, axe for stuff wut don't, and daedra ) and last night in Eastmarch I was tearing through groups of 3 and 4, ar 3-4 levels above me, like hot snot through cheap kleenex. Bosses, too. If anything, it seems her DPS has been -boosted- with 1.4.3.
Would you mind posting some details about your build/setup? I want to play a heavy armor 2h nord, but haven't been able to make it work at all. Would appreciate some tips if possible.
I would also like to please see your build/setup and maybe then I can go back to doing two-hander.
I'll try to post it when I get home from work. Honestly, theory-craft is not my strong suit. Basically, it's all about the self-heal passive based on fire damage... and then setting every mob on fire.
ehh-hehehe... firrrre.... firrre.
Surfinginhawaii wrote: »Wicked_Wolf wrote: »Not sure what class OP is playing.
My heavy-armor wearing Nord DK uses only 2-handers ( sword for stuff wut bleeds, axe for stuff wut don't, and daedra ) and last night in Eastmarch I was tearing through groups of 3 and 4, ar 3-4 levels above me, like hot snot through cheap kleenex. Bosses, too. If anything, it seems her DPS has been -boosted- with 1.4.3.
Would you mind posting some details about your build/setup? I want to play a heavy armor 2h nord, but haven't been able to make it work at all. Would appreciate some tips if possible.
I would also like to please see your build/setup and maybe then I can go back to doing two-hander.
I'll try to post it when I get home from work. Honestly, theory-craft is not my strong suit. Basically, it's all about the self-heal passive based on fire damage... and then setting every mob on fire.
ehh-hehehe... firrrre.... firrre.
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »GoatKnuckle wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
You must be thinking of Netscape Navigator. But you tried ... I guess. One gold star for one special snowflake.
Sorry, but Internet Explorer... maybe early 2000s. I managed to move my parents away from that browser about five years ago, and they aren't exactly computer literate.
GoatKnuckle wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »GoatKnuckle wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
You must be thinking of Netscape Navigator. But you tried ... I guess. One gold star for one special snowflake.
Sorry, but Internet Explorer... maybe early 2000s. I managed to move my parents away from that browser about five years ago, and they aren't exactly computer literate.
No, I'm sorry. The Goat misread the original post you were replying to. Now I'm the special snowflake. IE was available during that timeframe. But I agree, I prefer Firefox as well.
You can dps in heavy armor currently if you want to... On my stamina character i have about 70% crit. Only 21% of that comes from Medium armor... so if you want to make a Heavy armor dps then do it. You can still max stamina, weapon damage, and stamina regen(regen will be hard to cap in heavy, but doable), and you will have to settle for 45-50% crit, which is still very high in PvE.
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mar1ano1987nrb18_ESO wrote: »You can dps in heavy armor currently if you want to... On my stamina character i have about 70% crit. Only 21% of that comes from Medium armor... so if you want to make a Heavy armor dps then do it. You can still max stamina, weapon damage, and stamina regen(regen will be hard to cap in heavy, but doable), and you will have to settle for 45-50% crit, which is still very high in PvE.
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Well, I play in the Ebonheart Pact (NA) and we almost never have pvp buffs, so ..Im guessing those stats you got came from Cyrodiil. If not ....please tell me how to increase weapon critical to 70% with a DK medium armor/two handed , unbuffed.
Right now im getting to 60% -63% crit ..only when I use oblivion flames (Inferno Morph), but cant keep it up for long since its stops my magicka recovery
Ok, home from work. Here's my set up:
Nord DK, heavy armor, 2-hander/2-hander set up
Primary
Critical Charge (weapon tree) (unmorphed)
Brawler ( weapon tree)
Burning Ember (Ardent Flame)
Stone Giant (Earthen Heart)
Igneous Weapons (Ardent Flame)
Secondary
Same as above, with Silver Bolts (Fighters Guild) in place of Stone Giant
Ultimate
Dragnknight Standard (unmorphed)
Passives
Nord- Robust 3/3
Heavy Armor- Constitution 2/2
2-Hand- Forceful 2/2
Balanced Blade 2/2
Battle Rush 1/2
Ardent Flame- Kindling 2/2
Basically, I find the caster / healer and charge in, set them on fire with Burning Ember and use Brawler. Focus in turn on each individual mob with Burning Ember until everyone is flaming then focus on one so one other get splash damage from Forceful. Between block-stunning and Stone Giant stunning healers / casters they die pretty fast.
I also have a level 50 Alchemist so between multi-function Health / Stam Regen and Crit buff and self-heal passive, I'm pretty damned hard to kill in PvE.
And there we have it, he is using magic. Moving on. No one is saying magic based class attacks don't work. We are saying playing a pure warrior WITHOUT magic does not work.Ok, home from work. Here's my set up:
Nord DK, heavy armor, 2-hander/2-hander set up
Primary
Critical Charge (weapon tree) (unmorphed)
Brawler ( weapon tree)
Burning Ember (Ardent Flame)
Stone Giant (Earthen Heart)
Igneous Weapons (Ardent Flame)
Secondary
Same as above, with Silver Bolts (Fighters Guild) in place of Stone Giant
Ultimate
Dragnknight Standard (unmorphed)
Passives
Nord- Robust 3/3
Heavy Armor- Constitution 2/2
2-Hand- Forceful 2/2
Balanced Blade 2/2
Battle Rush 1/2
Ardent Flame- Kindling 2/2
Basically, I find the caster / healer and charge in, set them on fire with Burning Ember and use Brawler. Focus in turn on each individual mob with Burning Ember until everyone is flaming then focus on one so one other get splash damage from Forceful. Between block-stunning and Stone Giant stunning healers / casters they die pretty fast.
I also have a level 50 Alchemist so between multi-function Health / Stam Regen and Crit buff and self-heal passive, I'm pretty damned hard to kill in PvE.
And there we have it, SHE is using magic. Moving on. No one is saying magic based class attacks don't work. We are saying playing a pure warrior WITHOUT magic does not work.Ok, home from work. Here's my set up:
Nord DK, heavy armor, 2-hander/2-hander set up
Primary
Critical Charge (weapon tree) (unmorphed)
Brawler ( weapon tree)
Burning Ember (Ardent Flame)
Stone Giant (Earthen Heart)
Igneous Weapons (Ardent Flame)
Secondary
Same as above, with Silver Bolts (Fighters Guild) in place of Stone Giant
Ultimate
Dragnknight Standard (unmorphed)
Passives
Nord- Robust 3/3
Heavy Armor- Constitution 2/2
2-Hand- Forceful 2/2
Balanced Blade 2/2
Battle Rush 1/2
Ardent Flame- Kindling 2/2
Basically, I find the caster / healer and charge in, set them on fire with Burning Ember and use Brawler. Focus in turn on each individual mob with Burning Ember until everyone is flaming then focus on one so one other get splash damage from Forceful. Between block-stunning and Stone Giant stunning healers / casters they die pretty fast.
I also have a level 50 Alchemist so between multi-function Health / Stam Regen and Crit buff and self-heal passive, I'm pretty damned hard to kill in PvE.
And there we have it, SHE is using magic. Moving on. No one is saying magic based class attacks don't work. We are saying playing a pure warrior WITHOUT magic does not work.Ok, home from work. Here's my set up:
Nord DK, heavy armor, 2-hander/2-hander set up
Primary
Critical Charge (weapon tree) (unmorphed)
Brawler ( weapon tree)
Burning Ember (Ardent Flame)
Stone Giant (Earthen Heart)
Igneous Weapons (Ardent Flame)
Secondary
Same as above, with Silver Bolts (Fighters Guild) in place of Stone Giant
Ultimate
Dragnknight Standard (unmorphed)
Passives
Nord- Robust 3/3
Heavy Armor- Constitution 2/2
2-Hand- Forceful 2/2
Balanced Blade 2/2
Battle Rush 1/2
Ardent Flame- Kindling 2/2
Basically, I find the caster / healer and charge in, set them on fire with Burning Ember and use Brawler. Focus in turn on each individual mob with Burning Ember until everyone is flaming then focus on one so one other get splash damage from Forceful. Between block-stunning and Stone Giant stunning healers / casters they die pretty fast.
I also have a level 50 Alchemist so between multi-function Health / Stam Regen and Crit buff and self-heal passive, I'm pretty damned hard to kill in PvE.
I never claimed otherwise. All class abilities are magika-based and what kinda maroon would give up on all those tasty class abilities? At 34, I've only got 7 points in Magika and that's enough for the abilities I wanted.
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »And there we have it, SHE is using magic. Moving on. No one is saying magic based class attacks don't work. We are saying playing a pure warrior WITHOUT magic does not work.Ok, home from work. Here's my set up:
Nord DK, heavy armor, 2-hander/2-hander set up
Primary
Critical Charge (weapon tree) (unmorphed)
Brawler ( weapon tree)
Burning Ember (Ardent Flame)
Stone Giant (Earthen Heart)
Igneous Weapons (Ardent Flame)
Secondary
Same as above, with Silver Bolts (Fighters Guild) in place of Stone Giant
Ultimate
Dragnknight Standard (unmorphed)
Passives
Nord- Robust 3/3
Heavy Armor- Constitution 2/2
2-Hand- Forceful 2/2
Balanced Blade 2/2
Battle Rush 1/2
Ardent Flame- Kindling 2/2
Basically, I find the caster / healer and charge in, set them on fire with Burning Ember and use Brawler. Focus in turn on each individual mob with Burning Ember until everyone is flaming then focus on one so one other get splash damage from Forceful. Between block-stunning and Stone Giant stunning healers / casters they die pretty fast.
I also have a level 50 Alchemist so between multi-function Health / Stam Regen and Crit buff and self-heal passive, I'm pretty damned hard to kill in PvE.
I never claimed otherwise. All class abilities are magika-based and what kinda maroon would give up on all those tasty class abilities? At 34, I've only got 7 points in Magika and that's enough for the abilities I wanted.
at 34 you're are not in a position to be able to make any assessment of the game, tbh. Nor really theorycraft anything effectively.
