Super_Sonico wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

I've run with that group many many times where we had to be very coordinated. It's very obvious who wasn't paying attention or wasn't in TS.

Sorry, but that's a BS excuse for a herd mentality. Watch the group icons on the map. For 'everyone being coordinated because of TS' there were 3 groups at different spots on the map not even playing together, and even the group leader was running around by himself half the time.

We'll have to agree to disagree on your 45-minute long assessment of the pros of TS.

At the end of the day TS is not an option for many people who play late at night or need to be silent for any other reason.

So if all guilds are TS only.....how do you join a guild ?

But yes I understand elite groups could not function without teamspeak.

I know exactly how you feel. It's like hitting the brick wall all over again, but this time around there's no convenient workaround available. I tried to avoid Craglorn as much as I could due to that fact, I just don't enjoy grinding that much anymore. But I would love to quest there.

I tried looking for more folks for exactly this a while back and VR, especially those interested in a voice comm free environment (and it's most certainly not needed, just more convenient to those who can and like to use it), but it seems as if there's literally no interest at all. But have a look for yourself: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/108209/eu-ad-lf-m-voice-chat-free-community-vr-leveling-and-group-content

Anyways, as long as the grind will be way more efficient than questing and the phasing issues prevent people from helping each other, I don't see myself progressing any further, since questing simply is not supported by the game's design.

Gotta have to reroll, I suppose, and hope it'll change in the meantime.

If all that's needed was "NW gate" then no, you don't need TS or similar. I'm unsure how complicated the Trial boss fights become but in the game that shall not be named, rarely were instructions that simple.

For someone complaining about community behavior, the facepalm image was really the mature way to go.

Just hopping in to say that.

*open portal and leaves as some npcs do*

Lucky for solo-players, there'll be Wrothgar. I'm looking forward to it, because I really like to going just by myself on adventurers, once in a while.

It's a shame the forum rules prohibit finding groups to do content together. Or at least they do, as I recall them. Should look into that.

Really, there should be a forum section specifically for finding players to tackle content together. This is supposed to be a social experience.

thelordoffelines wrote: »

Super_Sonico wrote: »

*sigh*

Super_Sonico wrote: »

... I get all starter quests in town. I know Craglorn requires grouping. Ok. Hit up zone chat for a group. Grind groups and time trials. No one interested in running quests. No one interested in just exploring. No one having fun playing the game. ...

sagitter wrote: »

Craglorn is fun, ... but you must find some friend and group up ...

Aedh wrote: »

Your best bet is to find a few friends/guildmates who haven't started questing in the zone yet, and do everything with them.

tlegrandb16_ESO wrote: »

find a group for craglorn quests,

I mean really. Did you people even read my post?

Yeah, I don't even...

Just...

wow...

*sigh*

Seriously disappointed.

they all said find friends/guildmates not randoms in zone chat

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In other words: *BULLETIN: If you cannot make/find/buy friends or are not in an active Guild, you will need to figure out how to use player created content for your Craglorn fun.

JUST THINK: If soloer's hadn't crushed for Vet + content 1 - 10 to be morphed to a 'more comfortable soloing experience', folks could have been grouping up regularly, the way that content was originally designed. Then, aside from PvPr's who, understandably-so (*since at the e x p in Cyr was hard to come by to level up with), were trying to zoom up super quick/efficient so they could head over to Cyr and have some competitive PvP fun -- well the PvEr's who would have had to have been grouping and learning reps and helping each other and journeying through could have had contacts for later. By the time one would have gotten to Craglorn, there would have been friends' lists and everything ;o).

Ah, but that was not to be. The clear consequences to TESO endgame were easy to foresee. But, but, but....that Vet content needed to be eased up "JUST A BIT" eh?

Bunch of b-s. An MMO blooms if its middle content has some challenge and the grouping has some raison d'être. Craglorn has some awesome content. Too bad a good amount of its just being wasted. I encourage players to check out the zone the way it was designed to be played. TESO had the middle ripped out, now little more than shabby leavings in Craglorn.

Thus my first paragraph: If you cannot make/find/buy friends or are not in an active Guild, you're kinda shafted in Craglorn. Sorry.

I wanted to play tag, but other kids were using the slide.

Seriously disappointed.

The TS hate is odd, especially from people who claim to have used it before. You need TS to listen to others, you don't actually have to speak to anyone. There are headsets with only one ear piece or you can just slide one ear off. Are some people just as set in their ways as the people they are complaining about?

You didn't get a group in old VR, because it was perfectly soloable to some and phasing made any grouping outside of fixed groups not feasible. You don't get a group in Craglorn, because grinding through it is way more efficient and phasing makes any grouping outside of fixed groups not feasible.

It's not the mindset of players (well, not mainly), but the very design of the game.

I want to group. I cannot. This is a solo game. I want it to be a group game outside of the grind and Zerg.

Gillysan wrote: »

The TS hate is odd, especially from people who claim to have used it before. You need TS to listen to others, you don't actually have to speak to anyone. There are headsets with only one ear piece or you can just slide one ear off. Are some people just as set in their ways as the people they are complaining about?

Read the posts. I used TS in games where they were needed (military style group play). Now I have a kid. I can't use TS because of what I mentioned above. Plus, this game is much faster because of AoE spam than any military based squad performance type game. TS is simply not needed for 50 people funning in a mob spamming AoEs. Following group leader dot on map and in game is sufficient.

The casuals are the people who think they need voice comm crutch to be any good.

Find a guild, make friends, use TS3(it's free...).
It's an MMO, i can't even imagine to play alone lol.

Tried that on different occasions with zero results. I'm used to group building via chat, pretty much grew up on it, keeping groups alive by going through /who lists and all. (whished there was something at least similar)

Anyways, @Shadowcaster_9481 being successful either means he's got lucky or me's unlucky, but any case, it's still worth to keep going and too soon to give up just yet, so thanks for the pep talk. I mean it.