Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
What exactly are you looking for? I'm a V12 medium armor DW /Bow NB and i rarely lose to anyone in Cyrodiil. I can escape most encounters where i am out numbered. Anyone I target with a sneak attack usually dies and even in straight up melee 1v1 i win most of my fights, even against DKs and Sorc.
If they make NBs any stronger we will be overpowered. please tell em exactly what you are having problems with and maybe I can help...
nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »we nightblades need fixed and increase in damage and increased in survivability.
please help us devs - please help us -
- we die at the drop of a hat and only a few hits we dead
- last night i watched as templars dragonights and even sorcerers put out alot of damage and healed instantly over and over and over and never died untill 10 - 15 people were attacking them all at once and that even took a long long time for them to die, but a nightblade is dead within just a few seconds from just 1 attacker.
dev's - please help us nightblades
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Firstly, I don't really understand what is so big deal about NBs and their cloak. It's excellent defense mechanism, and if it breaks because of your own DoTs, then don't use DoTs. Simple as that, or did I miss something?...
...It would be quite unfair if you could stealth, but your opponent could not, because he's still in combat. I've met quite a many NBs in PVP that had zero problems of disappearing in the middle of the fight and stay hidden, so this is more like a choose your skills/spells better issue. I don't usually say this, but you can read that as L2P.
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Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »we nightblades need fixed and increase in damage and increased in survivability.
please help us devs - please help us -
- we die at the drop of a hat and only a few hits we dead
- last night i watched as templars dragonights and even sorcerers put out alot of damage and healed instantly over and over and over and never died untill 10 - 15 people were attacking them all at once and that even took a long long time for them to die, but a nightblade is dead within just a few seconds from just 1 attacker.
dev's - please help us nightblades
Try using the defensive abilities.
Use the medium armor 22% dodge ability and Blur 15% miss chance togeather and you might be surpised. throw Strife in there and you will last along time.
No offense to anyone, and I know this sounds harsh, but to me it looks like the only major problem NBs currently have left, are some lazy players, who don't bother to learn their own class or just have unrealistic expectations. Like I said earlier, ZOS should fix broken skills, but asking buffs for an already powerful class is just plain wrong. Good NBs are already killing people in few seconds in PVP ( and I admit that I don't want them to get any stronger than that ), and are also shining in PVE raids, so what more could you possible want? That facerolling your keyboard while running with whatever random build you can come up with is enough to destroy everyone and everything? I really do hope that's not going to happen, because I simply refuse to take any "Magicka man's burden" to further compensate any problems NBs or stamina builds had at launch.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
It's well known that bow Nightblades are a huge force in PvP. I don't know what game you've been playing.
Edit: Also, if you only meant to talk about PvP, you should specify that next time. I have plenty of fun in trials. Sorry that you don't.
Bow is a skill line that EVERY class can use and fire lethal arrow from shealth for crit+2x dmg, its not a NB exclusive.
Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
I am a high stamina build (2400) as an Archer,(2800 health) only 1600 magika but in straight 1v1 melee I am also very strong.
This is what i use and win with in straight melee 1v1. With medium armor and DW
(1) Med Armor Evasion buff (22% dodge chance)
(2) Blur (15% miss chance)
(3) Shades (15% damage debuff on the target and they eat threw the targets stamina when they block)
(4) Shallow Soul : This will heal me alot over the course of the fight combined with the otehr defensive abilities.
(5) Flurry morph Blinding Strikes. Remember i have 2400 stamina, so this ability does alot of damage and i can use it alot. This ability also saps alot of enemy stamina when they block so after a few of these they run out of staminia and I chew right threw their blocks and kill them. this also set sthe target off balance quit often and i can knock them down and do 1k damage with a heavy attack
(6) Soul tether as the Ultimate
This is a very effective build for fighting DKs
First of all, class skills use magicka, and weapon skill lines use stamina. It's the same for every class. If I want to try stamina using melee sorcerer, my crystal fragments is still using and scaling power with mana. So yes, I won't be able to do the same damage with my class abilities as I used to, but surprise surprise, I can do more damage with a 2-handed sword. Who would have guessed that? Also DKs and Templars use mana with their class specific skills too unless I'm mistaken. I just don't really understand what is so idiotic about that, since to me it looks really simple. Sure, I'd love to see all our skills scaling with whatever is the highest stat, but until that happens for everybody, I don't see any reason why Nightblades should be a special case.
Second of all, Battlemage is a real thing in Elder Scrolls lore. Sorcerers really should be able to swing sword if we choose that path. But enough of that, this is a thread about Nightblades. I'm sorry that you feel that your low level Nighblade hits like a wet noodle, and I can feel your pain, I really do. Fortunately there's a forum for new player questions if you need some specific help, and maybe somebody there can help you.
I'm not really an expert, and maybe Nightblades really need help in those first levels, but at max level your class is still very strong and supports stamina and mana based builds just fine. I read Tamriel Foundry site a lot, and I immediately found a 1k DPS stamina build for end game raiding for Nightblades. There's blades and speed for you, but unfortunately stealth part is missing. Maybe you could live without stealth, or just make your own build that suits your needs better. Anyways, here's the link for that build:
tamrielfoundry.com/topic/nightblade-stamina-based-dps-build-dw-viable-and-trials-ready/.
In the same site's nightblade theorycrafting section, there's also leveling, PVP and AOE grinding builds, and of course lots of info you should read. At least I've gotten lots of info from sorcerer theorycrafting section for my class. Also YouTube is full of very entertaining videos where Nightblades are shining in PVP, so maybe you can find some pointers from there too. I have always liked those videos, because I have played rogue classes myself in other MMOs, and more than likely will roll a Nightblade here too.
I know it takes time and effort to get to know your class and the game, but in the end it will be worth it. I have seen so many NBs in PVP, that I can guarantee the class is already very much capable of doing all that fancy assassination stuff. I don't do much PVE myself, but I've read that NB is a very good class in PVE world too. Of course you shouldn't believe an "enemy class" player, but when other high level Nightblades are telling that the class is doing fine, some even post proven builds for you to use, and YouTube is also full of videos showing how good players are doing with your class, maybe it's finally time to take a look in the mirror. Maybe, just maybe, the problem is not the class this time?
No offense to anyone, and I know this sounds harsh, but to me it looks like the only major problem NBs currently have left, are some lazy players, who don't bother to learn their own class or just have unrealistic expectations. Like I said earlier, ZOS should fix broken skills, but asking buffs for an already powerful class is just plain wrong. Good NBs are already killing people in few seconds in PVP ( and I admit that I don't want them to get any stronger than that ), and are also shining in PVE raids, so what more could you possible want? That facerolling your keyboard while running with whatever random build you can come up with is enough to destroy everyone and everything? I really do hope that's not going to happen, because I simply refuse to take any "Magicka man's burden" to further compensate any problems NBs or stamina builds had at launch.
On the other hand, NBs are better mages than sorc, at least in terms of pure dps.Well its official:
- Templars or Sorcs are better Archers than NBs.
- Sorcs are better Assasins (opening burst dmg from shealth) than NBs.
On the other hand, NBs are better mages than sorc, at least in terms of pure dps.Well its official:
- Templars or Sorcs are better Archers than NBs.
- Sorcs are better Assasins (opening burst dmg from shealth) than NBs.
Also, sorcs are not better assassins than NB. Not sure where you got that from.
Sorcs better archers than NBs? Yes, I agree, but only in non-stealth, non-sustained combat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVGuyFcd8nk That video looks fun, but getting into position using a 2H heavy attack for stealth is more of a hassle than what it looks like in a video edited for fluidity.
That video looks fun, but getting into position using a 2H heavy attack for stealth is more of a hassle than what it looks like in a video edited for fluidity.
I love that video and kudos to the sorc, bitter taste since im a NB and cant achieve the same synergy or dmg.
Yep, better assasin than a nb.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
That video looks fun, but getting into position using a 2H heavy attack for stealth is more of a hassle than what it looks like in a video edited for fluidity.
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Firstly, I don't really understand what is so big deal about NBs and their cloak. It's excellent defense mechanism, and if it breaks because of your own DoTs, then don't use DoTs. Simple as that, or did I miss something?...
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Incoming Fixes & Improvements
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Outstanding Known Issues
Patch 1.1.2 fixed many outstanding Nightblade issues, but below are some that we are either actively investigating, working on fixes for now, or have recently fixed and will push in a future patch. Please note this list does not reflect every reported Nightblade issue we are currently investigating.
General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.
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What exactly are you talking about?
My post that you quoted was specifically written in response to a player claiming:...
Firstly, I don't really understand what is so big deal about NBs and their cloak. It's excellent defense mechanism, and if it breaks because of your own DoTs, then don't use DoTs. Simple as that, or did I miss something?...
I pointed out that ZOS has stated that the issue of DoTs breaking Nightblade's Cloak is indeed acknowledged as unintended, and is due to be fixed; I made nothing up and a reference is available here:ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Incoming Fixes & Improvements
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Outstanding Known Issues
Patch 1.1.2 fixed many outstanding Nightblade issues, but below are some that we are either actively investigating, working on fixes for now, or have recently fixed and will push in a future patch. Please note this list does not reflect every reported Nightblade issue we are currently investigating.
General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.
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"This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch."
Link here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1
So I'm not sure what on earth you are talking about.
But, to be honest, I'm not sure you have any idea what you are talking about either.