So... Are People Just Exploding Now?

Lowbei · August 2014

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

After a few hours in PvP what i have observed is that bows are not sycning correctly to health. I noticed than when i shoot an enemy player his health does not always go down, yet he actually does take the damage and even dies if i use focus aim and then spam him down with arrows, yet on my screen he dies with almost full health.

Same situation with me when actually being attacked by a bow, my health is showing like 60% yet i explode and die.

Also, Soul Teather appears to be doing insane damage right now.

Jesus.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom and @ZOS_BrianWheeler take a look at that screenshot.

My NB guild mates noticed that. They went all: "let's exploit this sh*t all the way before they nerf it". And there you go, now game is unplayable.

Like i said before, We posted about it multiple times on the PTS forums, i brought it up multiple times that it needed to be nerfed, so did another guy.

It still went live.

again, why should we bother testing and reporting bugs on the PTS if they are ignored and gamebreaking bugs go live?

Sumpfheini · August 2014

upfront burst damage in this game was already quite ridiculous (e.g. NB stealth burst). Just another flaw of this crappy resource system without cooldowns in addition to sneak openers being crits.

Samadhi · August 2014

SienneYviete wrote: »

Something is bugging out pretty bad my devouring swarm today was doing 556 damage and healing for 556 per tic and I was using 5h/2l armor instead of my usual 5l/2h way more damage than usual, funny thing is since the patch both my damage and crit stats on the character sheet will not update no matter what I do.

Bat Swarm (for me at least) used to scale off of Spell Damage and Magicka stats.

Now it is scaling with Weapon Damage and Stamina stats.

What is your build like?

Two Handed Vampires running Momentum might be getting pretty brutal.

Honfold · August 2014

Sumpfheini wrote: »

upfront burst damage in this game was already quite ridiculous (e.g. NB stealth burst). Just another flaw of this crappy resource system without cooldowns in addition to sneak openers being crits.

Nothing about a burst nightblade was ridiculous. Just throw up block and cast either Dragons Blood, Bolt Escape, or Heals. Any class could survive a NB ambush if they were fully paying attention. Casting spells while blocking should be removed from the game.

KBKB · August 2014

Honfold wrote: »

Casting spells while blocking should be removed from the game.

This x 100 Along with stamina regen while holding block.

Phaedrus · August 2014

They need to make characters able to transfer to the PTS. I really don't want to level on the test server just to see/test new features before live. A - I don't have time and B - what's the motivation?

If they allowed my character to transfer over I think it would help massively in finding errors before release such as these. "Hey in live my critical charge does 800 damage, in PTS it does 4500!" Might be a clue if the character builds are the exact same.

Maulkin · August 2014

Samadhi wrote: »

SienneYviete wrote: »

Something is bugging out pretty bad my devouring swarm today was doing 556 damage and healing for 556 per tic and I was using 5h/2l armor instead of my usual 5l/2h way more damage than usual, funny thing is since the patch both my damage and crit stats on the character sheet will not update no matter what I do.

Bat Swarm (for me at least) used to scale off of Spell Damage and Magicka stats.

Now it is scaling with Weapon Damage and Stamina stats.

What is your build like?

Two Handed Vampires running Momentum might be getting pretty brutal.

If that's the case 2H Sorc Vampires with Crit Surge and high spell crit will be doing even more dmg and becoming unkillable in the process.

Weapon Dmg cap is about 1.5 times that of Spell Dmg. Could it be sth as simple as forgetting to divide Weapon Dmg by 1.5 when it replaces Spell Dmg in the equation? It can't be something as stupid as that can it?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · August 2014

Update: The Combat Team is actively looking at this right now, including behind-the-scenes combat logs. We'll post again in this thread when we have more details to share.

CapuchinSeven · August 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

It can't be something as stupid as that can it?

Yes.

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Update: The Combat Team is actively looking at this right now, including behind-the-scenes combat logs. We'll post again in this thread when we have more details to share.

Thank you for your timely and measured response to this. Please let us know as soon as you can, as we would like this to be a more fun experience in Cyrodiil.

TheBull · August 2014

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Update: The Combat Team is actively looking at this right now, including behind-the-scenes combat logs. We'll post again in this thread when we have more details to share.

A DK died. Hotfix inc!

Lowbei · August 2014

I am impressed with their communication after months of silence on major issues, and hope that they continue to address community issues like this as they arise.

Maulkin · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

I am impressed with their communication after months of silence on major issues, and hope that they continue to address community issues like this as they arise.

I'm confused are you being sarcastic or not?

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

I am impressed with their communication after months of silence on major issues, and hope that they continue to address community issues like this as they arise.

I'm confused are you being sarcastic or not?

Yes.

Lowbei · August 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

I am impressed with their communication after months of silence on major issues, and hope that they continue to address community issues like this as they arise.

I'm confused are you being sarcastic or not?

no, im seriously glad that they are finally commenting on our issues and letting us know that they are looking into them.

KBKB · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

I am impressed with their communication after months of silence on major issues, and hope that they continue to address community issues like this as they arise.

I'm confused are you being sarcastic or not?

no, im seriously glad that they are finally commenting on our issues and letting us know that they are looking into them.

I too am enjoying the "wing it for 4 months then care" strategy that zenimax is employing.

Honfold · August 2014

So is the "more damage as you go" bug fixed?

Xsorus · August 2014

Kypho wrote: »

majestic862_ESO wrote: »

2600 damage soul tethers....not fun.

QQ ... Soul ulti 3k+ not fun. Standard 500+ dmg per tick not fun. Magma armor is not fun, Blazing shield is not fun, Bat swarm 540+ dmg per tick not fun..... QQ
Umm whats wrong with soul tether? nothing if others are fine. and others were such ages ago. So QQ NOT FUN QQ. Zeni nerf all ulti to half overall damage.

(ohh and 600+ pulse damage not fun... i QQ and rage now Zeni.... do something... Soultether ehh? lol at you all)

I never said Soul Ult was fun, I think its rather overpowered in a 2v1. But Soul ulti is still less damage over time then Soul Tether..By about Half.

Standard also doesn't do 500 damage per tic, It'll hit for the initial hit for 500 if it crits, and you'll see some 300-400 damage crits per tic if people are idiots and don't wear Crit Resist gear, but that's still less 300-400 damage less then the Base Damage of Soul Tethers tics. Bat Swarm again, Does less damage then Soul Tether. Magma I said was overpowered before, I even posted about it on the forums...when they changed it on PTS.

So in closing, Most of the Ults you complain about have Massive Animations that are noticeable, Do less damage then what even you posted, and are incredibly outclassed in every way by Soul Tether right now.

Xsorus · August 2014

Honfold wrote: »

Sumpfheini wrote: »

upfront burst damage in this game was already quite ridiculous (e.g. NB stealth burst). Just another flaw of this crappy resource system without cooldowns in addition to sneak openers being crits.

Nothing about a burst nightblade was ridiculous. Just throw up block and cast either Dragons Blood, Bolt Escape, or Heals. Any class could survive a NB ambush if they were fully paying attention. Casting spells while blocking should be removed from the game.

You'd completely break the game by going with that suggestion.

I think its been explained a 100 times already to people whining about Block how silly suggestions like that wouldn't work.

Lowbei · August 2014

so basically yes, people are just exploding now.

Honfold · August 2014

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Honfold wrote: »

Sumpfheini wrote: »

upfront burst damage in this game was already quite ridiculous (e.g. NB stealth burst). Just another flaw of this crappy resource system without cooldowns in addition to sneak openers being crits.

Nothing about a burst nightblade was ridiculous. Just throw up block and cast either Dragons Blood, Bolt Escape, or Heals. Any class could survive a NB ambush if they were fully paying attention. Casting spells while blocking should be removed from the game.

You'd completely break the game by going with that suggestion.

I think its been explained a 100 times already to people whining about Block how silly suggestions like that wouldn't work.

I don't see how it would break the game.

Xsorus · August 2014

Honfold wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Honfold wrote: »

Sumpfheini wrote: »

upfront burst damage in this game was already quite ridiculous (e.g. NB stealth burst). Just another flaw of this crappy resource system without cooldowns in addition to sneak openers being crits.

Nothing about a burst nightblade was ridiculous. Just throw up block and cast either Dragons Blood, Bolt Escape, or Heals. Any class could survive a NB ambush if they were fully paying attention. Casting spells while blocking should be removed from the game.

You'd completely break the game by going with that suggestion.

I think its been explained a 100 times already to people whining about Block how silly suggestions like that wouldn't work.

I don't see how it would break the game.

Well lets see, since most classes in the game use spells in some way or another, You'd pretty much kill any DPS that a Shield user would have, You'd kill most Defensive abilities in the game, And you'd pretty much make 2v1 a death sentence in this game. It would be a cluster**** of unimagined proportions all because you've not figured out how to combat someone blocking yet.

Ezareth · August 2014

kijima wrote: »

No, I'm not incorrect. And unlike you I've read every post in this thread, have you?

Thanks all the same, but there are two separate issues and bow isn't the cause of either.

TTK isn't working as it should be and it's happening with more than just bow, some spells and light attacks are doing the same, basically not registering quick enough and then BOOM!

You get the recap and you are wondering when what the recap said hit you, actually hit you because you didn't see the damage or the animation. You just go from having health, to having no health and exploding. This is issue no.1

There is ALSO an issue (no.2 for those playing at home) where damage output increases as time goes on, and this again is not purely bow. I've seen dual wield, spells and two hand do this too. I'm talking stupid damage in the 7,000 range.

In 2 days of PVP now every time I've had this happen to me it was from Bow attacks. I was just killed 4 times in a row by the same DK wielding a bow and I couldn't even tell I being damaged until I was dead. I don't have a bow and have never used one so I couldn't tell you how to reproduce it but there are more and more people who are discovering how to exploit this bug and are using it. PVP is broken once again.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler please make sure these two bugs are your #1 priority.
I can't stand going another week with broken Cyrodiil due to a patch breaking the game yet again.

Domander · August 2014

Where's the QA, can we get some QA?????!? Please!?!? Every update breaks about as much as it adds.

Lowbei · August 2014

Domander wrote: »

Where's the QA, can we get some QA?????!? Please!?!? Every update breaks about as much as it adds.

no it doesnt, stop

apostate9 · August 2014

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Renuo wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Whenever Funnel Health is involved or Lethal Arrow, my HP bar suddenly drops from 100% to 0% in below 1 second, with only small numbers displaying. This one is definately new.

Era of the NBs, ha? But I think there`s something buggy, either display wise or mechanics wise. It just doesn`t feel like burst, it`s just the HP bar dropping to zero, no chance to react.

My bet is on bug.

It really feels like a bug, being a guy on the other side it seems like I'm not hurting and then they die and often if theres some server lag or something it appears theres no animations in all of that.

Exactly how I am experiencing it on the receiving end

It is NOT an L2P issue,it is a bug/dsync or something. I attacked a gal in a keep that didn't even seem to react, but more- my attacks seemed to go right through her as though attacking a vendor. Only AOE "hits" animated on her toon. Then after seeming to swing at her pointlessly for 45 secods or so, she just...died.

Domander · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

Where's the QA, can we get some QA?????!? Please!?!? Every update breaks about as much as it adds.

no it doesnt, stop

Unfortunately, there are usually fixes listed in the notes that are not fixed, along with the new bugs added.

Lowbei · August 2014

list the new bugs from this last patch.

theres the fps one...

and?

Domander · August 2014

Have you been playing since the patch? lol

I could make a nice long list of new bugs, but I have better things to do right now.

short list

all the guild bugs (fixed now, as far as I know/hope)
combat is a mess
my character constantly cannot "use" doors
many crashes
there's a lot more

I have better things to do..... this is not my job.

Lowbei · August 2014

so your list includes the fps/crash (mem leak) that i mentioned so i wont count that one.

guild bug which like you say, is fixed thus doesnt count.

your character cannot use doors? never heard of this bug, and certainly havent seen it. where?

many crashes falls into the mem leak one.

so it seems you failed to list any new bugs (other than unverified door issue?) and certainly not as many as the fixes, so perhaps you should stop with the whining.