So... Are People Just Exploding Now?

Kypho · August 2014

So they broke Bow now?

olsborg · August 2014

And here I was thinking this patch would improve my current experience with ESO...guess its another broken patch... *lesigh*

monden1980b16_ESO · August 2014

First 10 minutes PvP and exploded with full health (several small hits, 2 soul tether hits from 1 NB with around 450 dmg each).

Think it's finally time fpr me to quit ESO

Erock25 · August 2014

There is definitely something odd going on. I see no projectiles hit my character and all a sudden I'm knocked down on the ground and dead. Not sure if it is lag or something is bugging out with projectile animation or something.

Anastasia · August 2014

Renuo wrote: »

Baphomet wrote: »

Macroing = insta-death.

Every other nightblade is doing it nowadays.

@Zenimax has been notified about the issue. Let's see what they can do about it.

Doubt it's macroing. It's extremely easy to do these things with your fingers.

monden1980b16_ESO · August 2014

Erock25 wrote: »

There is definitely something odd going on. I see no projectiles hit my character and all a sudden I'm knocked down on the ground and dead. Not sure if it is lag or something is bugging out with projectile animation or something.

True, I use a bow and there are no arrows (light attack and abilities). Some attacks seem to land anyways, but I have not yet figured out under what circumstances...

Umeil · August 2014

It would seem they made a boo boo. They uped the damage you do to players rather than the VP u gain from killing players like they said they would

Amserauq · August 2014

This has been happening to a lot of us lately, but hey at least we have dyes now!

SVKFrankenstein · August 2014

Wow , i read this topic and was like "It cant be that bad" . Then i got to PvP and i found its even worse .
Dont think it has to do with specific abillity or class because a was instasdroped to zero by Nightblade as same as 10 minutes later by Templar / DK from 70% . Death log showed only few hits each for 300 .

I was prepared for some screw ups from Zenimax after previous major updates but this is lil bit too much ...
As it is right now PvP is unplayable for me as dedicated heal / dps support ... .

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · August 2014

Yeah, same as above. Went to Cyrodiil tonight, and one step down. No damage shown, nothing. Just two hits of 300 from bow. Wtf.

3150 hp, 1500 AC and 2300 Spell resistance. It was never that ridiculous.
ZoS broke the PvP this time, pretty badly, and we have to wait probably couple of weeks to fix it. And if this issue is "intended" then by the time we hit September, the game going to be dead.

Orchish · August 2014

After a few hours in PvP what i have observed is that bows are not sycning correctly to health. I noticed than when i shoot an enemy player his health does not always go down, yet he actually does take the damage and even dies if i use focus aim and then spam him down with arrows, yet on my screen he dies with almost full health.

Same situation with me when actually being attacked by a bow, my health is showing like 60% yet i explode and die.

Also, Soul Teather appears to be doing insane damage right now.

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

Orchish wrote: »

After a few hours in PvP what i have observed is that bows are not sycning correctly to health. I noticed than when i shoot an enemy player his health does not always go down, yet he actually does take the damage and even dies if i use focus aim and then spam him down with arrows, yet on my screen he dies with almost full health.

Same situation with me when actually being attacked by a bow, my health is showing like 60% yet i explode and die.

Also, Soul Teather appears to be doing insane damage right now.

Jesus.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom and @ZOS_BrianWheeler take a look at that screenshot.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · August 2014

I say all along, remove spell/armour penetration buffs and half the magicka in Cyrodiil.

More normal attacks, less powercreep and instant solution to the stamina builds and heavy armour warriors with swords.

However, everyone who prefers the state of the game stay that bad, will vote a lol.

Lowbei · August 2014

soul tether was reported by players on the PTS as broken, and warned to fix before going live. the reports were obviously ignored.

if you are going to ignore reports from the PTS detailing broken abilities, then why should we bother testing?

Xsorus · August 2014

It scales insanely high with the stat change right now.

Whats funny is Magma armor was doing the same thing, and they nerfed it down (its still incredibly powerful if ya hit 2400 stamina softcap, but its no where near Soul Tether right now)

kijima · August 2014

For all the whiners, it's not bow that is doing the damage it's soul tether and the death recap doesn't always capture it.

I was tearing apart both EP and DC last night on the 30 day campaign, armed with bow doing plenty of damage (like I usually do ranged) but I was not even close to one shoting anyone. It still took a fair whack to bring down most of the decent DK's (which is still a great class for those who know how to play)

Soul tether however has had a huge buff

It's not the one shot like silver shards was a fews back with vamps (that was fun while it lasted, I got my own back on many DC vamps who usually pound be into the gound on that day

) but I'd have to admit it's seems OP.

What I have noticed though is that with the forum chatter about NB's and bows, I saw plenty of them out there last night with a bow chasing down all and any they could, spamming venom arrow and I'd have to say it looked more like positive thinking than anything else. Soul tether though, yeah that's not nice being on the receiving end of.

Oh, and dark cloak seems to be a lot better now. That could just be me, but stealth overall seems to be fixed.

Braidas · August 2014

kijima wrote: »

For all the whiners, it's not bow that is doing the damage it's soul tether and the death recap doesn't always capture it.

I was tearing apart both EP and DC last night on the 30 day campaign, armed with bow doing plenty of damage (like I usually do ranged) but I was not even close to one shoting anyone. It still took a fair whack to bring down most of the decent DK's (which is still a great class for those who know how to play)

Yes, this is the problem:

Orchish wrote: »

After a few hours in PvP what i have observed is that bows are not sycning correctly to health. I noticed than when i shoot an enemy player his health does not always go down, yet he actually does take the damage and even dies if i use focus aim and then spam him down with arrows, yet on my screen he dies with almost full health.

kijima · August 2014

This is also happening, sometimes the damage over time is delayed.

So while an NB is hitting you with bow and your health isn't going down you just carry on your merry way hacking people to bits in PvP, because there is no present danger, then BOOM! and you are left going what the hell just happened?

It's not bow, it's damage taken over time not working as it should. For what it's worth I got hit by a sorc last night with the same thing, plenty of light attacks that didn't register then BOOM!

gendarkb16_ESO · August 2014

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/124637/fun-with-the-crazy-damage-scalating-bug?new=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH55uvqlVIU

maybe some of the "exploding" is because of this :P

Vahrokh · August 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

After a few hours in PvP what i have observed is that bows are not sycning correctly to health. I noticed than when i shoot an enemy player his health does not always go down, yet he actually does take the damage and even dies if i use focus aim and then spam him down with arrows, yet on my screen he dies with almost full health.

Same situation with me when actually being attacked by a bow, my health is showing like 60% yet i explode and die.

Also, Soul Teather appears to be doing insane damage right now.

Jesus.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom and @ZOS_BrianWheeler take a look at that screenshot.

My NB guild mates noticed that. They went all: "let's exploit this [snip] all the way before they nerf it". And there you go, now game is unplayable.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Braidas · August 2014

gendarkb16_ESO wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/124637/fun-with-the-crazy-damage-scalating-bug?new=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH55uvqlVIU

maybe some of the "exploding" is because of this :P

that's insane lol

Honfold · August 2014

I have noticed that during large battles my health and the enemies will not update with the damage being received. This is not just NB bow builds. What is likely happening is that your health is not updating between the Snipe->heavy->venom->light attacks.

aksyong · August 2014

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

gendarkb16_ESO wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/124637/fun-with-the-crazy-damage-scalating-bug?new=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH55uvqlVIU

maybe some of the "exploding" is because of this :P

that's insane lol

That's disgusting. 1 shotting people with Crit charge?!

@gendarkb16_ESO‌ if your damage is enhancing exponentially it might seem to me that Rally is bugged as it gives you a gradual increase in weapon damage over a period of time, it might be that the period of time was enhanced, causing your weapon damage to continually scale upwards, till the period where the server realizes it and boots you OR the game can't handle the scaling and crashes.

Persephonius · August 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

I still say this feels like the SWTOR 1.2 patch (that's not a good thing). TTK is waaaaaaaaay down for a lot of people and PVP's turning into even more of a giant frag fest.

Yes I agree with this. I think there is a balance issue that is largely independant of class since patch 1.3.3. The ratio of dps/HP is too far skewed towards DPS across all classes now. Everyone has increased their DPS output in the last patch, while our HP is more or less the same as it was resulting more often than not in very short and un-interesting fights in PvP.

Xsorus · August 2014

Vahrokh wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

After a few hours in PvP what i have observed is that bows are not sycning correctly to health. I noticed than when i shoot an enemy player his health does not always go down, yet he actually does take the damage and even dies if i use focus aim and then spam him down with arrows, yet on my screen he dies with almost full health.

Same situation with me when actually being attacked by a bow, my health is showing like 60% yet i explode and die.

Also, Soul Teather appears to be doing insane damage right now.

Jesus.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom and @ZOS_BrianWheeler take a look at that screenshot.

My NB guild mates noticed that. They went all: "let's exploit this sh*t all the way before they nerf it". And there you go, now game is unplayable.

Like i said before, We posted about it multiple times on the PTS forums, i brought it up multiple times that it needed to be nerfed, so did another guy.

It still went live.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · August 2014

We will pass this to the combat team to look into gang.

kijima · August 2014

Happy to see it's not just bow and soul tether then, but an actual bug leading to the one shot phenomenon.

Xsorus · August 2014

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We will pass this to the combat team to look into gang.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/122944/think-they-will-remember-soul-tether-alongside-of-the-magma-armor-scale-fix#latest

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/121702/zos-please-don-t-let-magma-armor-go-live-with-its-current-damage-on-pts#latest

This might help

TheBull · August 2014

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We will pass this to the combat team to look into gang.

Nightblades have an ultimate that can kill people now. Must be a bug huh?

Tintinabula · August 2014

im just waiting for the day when Im not being killed by bugs so we can see true PvP..not hackesopvp