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So... Are People Just Exploding Now?

  • SienneYviete
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    Something is bugging out pretty bad my devouring swarm today was doing 556 damage and healing for 556 per tic and I was using 5h/2l armor instead of my usual 5l/2h way more damage than usual, funny thing is since the patch both my damage and crit stats on the character sheet will not update no matter what I do.
    Delta
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  • Asgari
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    There is no possible way for any single player to be able to counter being 1 shotted like this. More then half of those hits will 1 shot an emp with crazy high heath. This is insane! Thank you for posting this.

    ZOS get on this.
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  • Armitas
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    To add to the anecdotes.

    Was fighting a rank 1, someone using a bow, and a mender. I was expecting to kill them both, health is over 3/4 then I just stop living. Death log only showed a total sum of 1300 damage and nothing spectacular coming from the two players. You just sort of, stop living, for no discernible reason.
    Edited by Armitas on August 6, 2014 1:10PM
    Retired.
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  • smtdbplus
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    hmm...... 1-shot...

    As a melee and in MA, I got 1-shots (crystal fragment (17xx), talon+shatter soul (19xx), ...........) all the time since the game launch in late march...

    And no, I didn't block, melee class need to move around and need to handle more than 2 buttons.

    hmm... This takes some thinking process...




  • Cyrdemaceb17_ESO
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    Atreyu wrote: »
    every patch always broken things.

    Vampire exploits, Silver shards exploits, Broken FPS and now this... can't we just play in peace for once?

    Sounds funny coming from a PvP player ;)
  • kijima
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    It's not Bow, it's not soul tether it's not anything in particular.

    This video shows up close and personal melee with two handed sword single hitting many many targets and decimating all before him.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=vH55uvqlVIU

    It's a bug that gets worse with time apparently, some are saying it's a memory leak. Go figure.

    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...
  • Renuo
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    Renuo wrote: »
    Mike those ults do have cases of doing that. Almost all ultimates that deal damage are out of control now.

    I'm aware of some issues caused by ultimate scaling off different modifiers but they are exactly that, issues. Also currently not all dmg shows up on you character until it falls dead (bow issues), which leaves you with the impression it was all dealt in one go.

    I'm sitting on my v12 DK and v12 Vamp Sorc and I'm not seeing tool-tips doing anywhere near the damage mentioned Kypho. Not only that but his statement says "nothing if others are fine. and others were such ages ago", which obviously means he believes the standard was always doing 500+ dmg per tick while I never got it to go over 150.

    Don't defend the indefensible. He's trying to pass an issue off as something that should be permanent.

    I didn't defend him I corrected you.

    Now you turn around say oh I know it's due to the scaling issues, so are you now correcting your post when you said other ults aren't hitting crazy numbers?

    So if your ults aren't hitting unreasonably hard that means that someone else can't possibly be hitting harder?
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  • Maulkin
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    kijima wrote: »
    It's not Bow, it's not soul tether it's not anything in particular.

    This video shows up close and personal melee with two handed sword single hitting many many targets and decimating all before him.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=vH55uvqlVIU

    It's a bug that gets worse with time apparently, some are saying it's a memory leak. Go figure.
    You're incorrect, there is definitely is a Bow issue and it's unrelated to damage scaling and one shots. Did you want the video on the previous page?

    The issue with the bow has nothing to do with obscene damage, but with damage not registering on the target's health bar until the target dies.

    These two issues seem unrelated.

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  • CapuchinSeven
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    im just waiting for the day when Im not being killed by bugs so we can see true PvP..not hackesopvp

    The game is a joke, how this stuff gets into live I have no idea, every patch there is a game breaking bug.

    I've been seeing the same thing today, most of it isn't showing on my kill sheet but *bam* I'm dead. I HAVE been hit for a 3k critical charge though, that one I did see.
    Edited by CapuchinSeven on August 6, 2014 2:20PM
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Multiple times throughout the day yesterday I had the issue. Near full or full HP bar to dead with nothing in my combat logs or registering in death recap until I was down on the ground. Bows were the most common thing attacking me at the time, but not always.

    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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  • SienneYviete
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    Also noticing that when my damage starts jumping I get about 5 to 10 minutes then the game crashes.
    Delta
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  • Maulkin
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    Renuo wrote: »
    Renuo wrote: »
    Mike those ults do have cases of doing that. Almost all ultimates that deal damage are out of control now.

    I'm aware of some issues caused by ultimate scaling off different modifiers but they are exactly that, issues. Also currently not all dmg shows up on you character until it falls dead (bow issues), which leaves you with the impression it was all dealt in one go.

    I'm sitting on my v12 DK and v12 Vamp Sorc and I'm not seeing tool-tips doing anywhere near the damage mentioned Kypho. Not only that but his statement says "nothing if others are fine. and others were such ages ago", which obviously means he believes the standard was always doing 500+ dmg per tick while I never got it to go over 150.

    Don't defend the indefensible. He's trying to pass an issue off as something that should be permanent.

    I didn't defend him I corrected you.

    Now you turn around say oh I know it's due to the scaling issues, so are you now correcting your post when you said other ults aren't hitting crazy numbers?

    So if your ults aren't hitting unreasonably hard that means that someone else can't possibly be hitting harder?

    Different ulties use different coefficients and have different caps. Not all ulties post so high dmg. I have not yet seen a standard hit for 500+ DoT for example.

    If you want to correct me put a screenshot up of a Standard's or a Bat Swarm's ultie and I'll stand here corrected. I tend to not believe people plucking figures out of thin air while they rage.

    In either case any ultie posting too high dmg post-1.3 (regardless of class) needs a correction, needless to say. The original poster suggested the dmg should stay and also that the other ulties did too high dmg even before 1.3. With his first point I disagreed while the 2nd point is obviously bogus.
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  • kijima
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    You're incorrect, there is definitely is a Bow issue and it's unrelated to damage scaling and one shots. Did you want the video on the previous page?

    The issue with the bow has nothing to do with obscene damage, but with damage not registering on the target's health bar until the target dies.

    These two issues seem unrelated.

    No, I'm not incorrect. And unlike you I've read every post in this thread, have you?

    Thanks all the same, but there are two separate issues and bow isn't the cause of either.

    TTK isn't working as it should be and it's happening with more than just bow, some spells and light attacks are doing the same, basically not registering quick enough and then BOOM!

    You get the recap and you are wondering when what the recap said hit you, actually hit you because you didn't see the damage or the animation. You just go from having health, to having no health and exploding. This is issue no.1

    There is ALSO an issue (no.2 for those playing at home) where damage output increases as time goes on, and this again is not purely bow. I've seen dual wield, spells and two hand do this too. I'm talking stupid damage in the 7,000 range.
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...
  • Xiphyla
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    Everytime a patch comes in , many things will be broken. I think the dev need to do more testing on patch before release. I'm just really disappointed at how this game had gone to.
    Edited by Xiphyla on August 6, 2014 2:43PM
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  • Soulac
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    It looks like some Weapon dmg increasing things multiply with each other instead of stacking.
    But well we have a PTS but we can't test all things without playing and leveling a longer time.. And if we report something - > nobody cares
    Edited by Soulac on August 6, 2014 2:43PM
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  • CapuchinSeven
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    I just came back to ESO since 1.1, after I got all my plugins sorted out I decided to hit up Cyrodiil. That was a mistake. I rage logged after dying about 10 times in 5 minutes. Some of the hits were up to 2.5k. I'm a VR8 DK, so yeah I don't have 3k+ health, but if I can get hit for more than my max health when I've focused mostly on health, something is wrong. Worst of all no one wants to rez because it costs soul gems, so you respawn and run back again and again and again. Seems like this game would benefit more from Guild Wars 2's downed state system and free revives than even GW2 would.

    ...or your faction could just not be dumb and carry lots of camps and keep them going in rotation, like they are meant to do?
  • quakedawg_ESO
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    Take the extra time to roll a fix in for this issue today.
    Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t

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    'My group of 4 will often take on 100+ with no problem. I have videos to prove it'
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  • k4vet_ESO
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    Soulac wrote: »
    It looks like some Weapon dmg increasing things multiply with each other instead of stacking.
    But well we have a PTS but we can't test all things without playing and leveling a longer time.. And if we report something - > nobody cares

    Spot on with no body caring look at the unbreakable CC.....
  • Maulkin
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    kijima wrote: »
    You're incorrect, there is definitely is a Bow issue and it's unrelated to damage scaling and one shots. Did you want the video on the previous page?

    The issue with the bow has nothing to do with obscene damage, but with damage not registering on the target's health bar until the target dies.

    These two issues seem unrelated.

    No, I'm not incorrect. And unlike you I've read every post in this thread, have you?

    Thanks all the same, but there are two separate issues and bow isn't the cause of either.

    TTK isn't working as it should be and it's happening with more than just bow, some spells and light attacks are doing the same, basically not registering quick enough and then BOOM!

    You get the recap and you are wondering when what the recap said hit you, actually hit you because you didn't see the damage or the animation. You just go from having health, to having no health and exploding. This is issue no.1

    There is ALSO an issue (no.2 for those playing at home) where damage output increases as time goes on, and this again is not purely bow. I've seen dual wield, spells and two hand do this too. I'm talking stupid damage in the 7,000 range.

    Every single recap I've seen of people mentioning dmg not registering has at least a bow attack in it.

    I haven seen videos and screenshots of 100% Bow dmg not registering. I have not seen videos of 100% non-Bow dmg not registering. Until then, I tend to believe there might be something wrong with the bow, but I'll stand corrected as always if proven wrong.

    Obviously damage incrasin over time and ulties doing insane dmg are unrelated issues between them and unrelated to the damage registration on target. However all 3 issues are currently contributing to a huge decrease in TTK.

    Do we at least agree on the last paragraph?
    Edited by Maulkin on August 6, 2014 3:01PM
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  • ThyIronFist
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    And here we are, after 4 months, still playing for a game that is in beta state.
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  • KBKB
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    And here we are, after 4 months, still playing for a game that is in beta state.

    And still shocked on patch day.
  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    Everyone hits a lot harder now with the increased soft caps. If you don't have over 3k health unbuffed in Cyrodil you're doing it wrong.

    How do you achieve 3k health unbuffed without suffering from lack of magicka?
    :trollin:
  • KBKB
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    Everyone hits a lot harder now with the increased soft caps. If you don't have over 3k health unbuffed in Cyrodil you're doing it wrong.

    How do you achieve 3k health unbuffed without suffering from lack of magicka?

    Think I'm 2.5k magicka (over charged) and 3k without food in Cyrodiil

    Sorc, 7/7 LA 6x HP chant 1 x Magicka (3x infused traits head,chest and legs.)

    5/5 lock set 5/5 magnus.

    off the top of my head 34 magicka 15 hp attributes?

    Oh forgot structured entrop is on my bar, for the passive and shard proc so thats 8% hp if you roll that way.
    Edited by KBKB on August 6, 2014 3:20PM
  • kijima
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    Yes, I agree with your statement and because you aren't blaming one weapon. :D

    Re: The PTS not being able to give us a clear understanding.

    I've spent a fair amount of time on the PTS, was in there tonight just after maintenance started (maintenance is 10pm which means I spend most of my monday nights in PTS testing various things) and I have to say, you don't bump into many people at all on the PTS (although I did manage to throw a bucket of water on a couple having sex in street in Craglorn tonight) yet with PvP it's non-existant. Seriously, I've not seen anything but NPC's there.

    How can you test PvP when the only choice is to create a VR12 trials character that can only be DC? How on earth is that going to work when everyone is in the same alliance exactly?

    And yes, I know you can create a character from any alliance from scratch, but why would you level up a toon for the PTS just to go into Cyrodiil... seriously?

    ZOS, if you are listening, make other factions available so it's possible to test things in PvP properly.

    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...
  • Erock25
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    Manoekin wrote: »
    Everyone hits a lot harder now with the increased soft caps. If you don't have over 3k health unbuffed in Cyrodil you're doing it wrong.

    How do you achieve 3k health unbuffed without suffering from lack of magicka?

    Think I'm 2.5k magicka (over charged) and 3k without food in Cyrodiil

    Sorc, 7/7 LA 6x HP chant 1 x Magicka (3x infused traits head,chest and legs.)

    5/5 lock set 5/5 magnus.

    off the top of my head 34 magicka 15 hp attributes?

    Oh forgot structured entrop is on my bar, for the passive and shard proc so thats 8% hp if you roll that way.

    I'm 29 magicka 20 health with 7/7 LA all with magicka enchants with 5/5 magnus and 3/5 Torug and mage mundus and I'm sitting at 2000 magicka and 2300 health in cyrodiil without food. WTF am I doing wrong?
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  • KBKB
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    White enchants? no reason your mana should go below cap with full enchants. I forgot to mention ima breton.
  • dennis.schmelzleb16_ESO
    Neither fun to kill people in seconds nor to get killed in seconds

    I want longer fights with more tactical decisions

    Eso is moving more and more into a direction I dont like
  • Persephonius
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    Manoekin wrote: »
    Everyone hits a lot harder now with the increased soft caps. If you don't have over 3k health unbuffed in Cyrodil you're doing it wrong.

    How do you achieve 3k health unbuffed without suffering from lack of magicka?

    Think I'm 2.5k magicka (over charged) and 3k without food in Cyrodiil

    Sorc, 7/7 LA 6x HP chant 1 x Magicka (3x infused traits head,chest and legs.)

    5/5 lock set 5/5 magnus.

    off the top of my head 34 magicka 15 hp attributes?

    Oh forgot structured entrop is on my bar, for the passive and shard proc so thats 8% hp if you roll that way.

    Is this with or without the emperor alliance HP buff?
  • KBKB
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    without. That is only the 500 HP you get for walking into cyrodiil
    Edited by KBKB on August 6, 2014 3:42PM
  • Persephonius
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    without. That is only the 500 HP you get for walking into cyrodiil

    No, there is an alliance wide HP buff if in your campaign, your alliance has emperor as well.
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