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I feel like a hero again!
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Yeah I noticed that. I also remember it being used as justification for the nerf when the qqing was going the other way pre patch. Just a shame all the people waited until after the nerf to find their voices. I always suspected that the "difficulty too hard" gang was a vocal minority....at least on this forum. Seems I might have been right.5 -
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✭Blackwidow wrote: »purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »...I don't think people were quitting bcoz it was hard, I think they were getting bored lvl grinding. Just to clarify. The devs have really tough job. Its a really fine balance.
Bored customers quit.
I do agree it was probably because of the grind, but some people had a hard time soling, so they gave up.
The grind is easier to cope with if it doesn't involve so much running back from Wayshrines.
"As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
Have you seen the Twin Lamps?2 -
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✭✭waylander48 wrote: »did all the vets that exploited to vet10 leave I bet they were proud they beat the really hard content.
QFT.3 -
Kulthax✭✭✭
While I was not an advocate for the 'nerf' I completely understand where ZOS is coming from. It makes business sense to cater to the larger crowd.
Yeah I noticed that. I also remember it being used as justification for the nerf when the qqing was going the other way pre patch. Just a shame all the people waited until after the nerf to find their voices. I always suspected that the "difficulty too hard" gang was a vocal minority....at least on this forum. Seems I might have been right.
I logged in to test things out and found it to be just as difficult/easy as levels 1-50. Is it faceroll easy, no. But you will not hear that from the vocal minority here today. I applaud ZOS for making a tough decision. Showing the ability to adapt is what will ensure this game has a long life.
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✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »Blackwidow wrote: »purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »...I don't think people were quitting bcoz it was hard, I think they were getting bored lvl grinding. Just to clarify. The devs have really tough job. Its a really fine balance.
Bored customers quit.
I do agree it was probably because of the grind, but some people had a hard time soling, so they gave up.
The grind is easier to cope with if it doesn't involve so much running back from Wayshrines.
True dat.
Edited by Blackwidow on July 7, 2014 7:44PM3 -
Chuggernaut✭✭✭I guess I'll have to check it out tonight!My comrades have returned. I erect the spine of gratitude. You are a hero today. - Bura-Natoo0 -
Madval✭✭✭Yeah tks you Zenimax It's fabulous ! All my guildies who are in vet zone enjoy it now ! It's fantastic !4 -
Hilgara✭✭✭✭✭
While I was not an advocate for the 'nerf' I completely understand where ZOS is coming from. It makes business sense to cater to the larger crowd.
Yeah I noticed that. I also remember it being used as justification for the nerf when the qqing was going the other way pre patch. Just a shame all the people waited until after the nerf to find their voices. I always suspected that the "difficulty too hard" gang was a vocal minority....at least on this forum. Seems I might have been right.
Prove to me they are the larger crowd. I know this forum isn't reflective of the larger player base but I never hear anyone in any of the 5 games I am in complaining that it was too easy and any polls here do seem to show the opposite.
While I could never prove that your side was in the minority neither can you. And I don't believe for a second that the reason the vet zones are empty is due to the difficulty. This will be proved when they are sill empty after the patch.1 -
Blackwidow wrote: »I have made 2,329 posts on these forums. (I know, sad) In all of those posts, not once did I ever ask for a nerf. I have never asked for the combat in ESO to be easier.
I like a challenging game.
That said, playing my Vet 8 Templar today, I felt like a hero again.
I felt powerful. I got to treat minions as the garbage that they are.
No longer do I need to beg a pack of mubcrabs for mercy!
I have to say I love the change. I didn't ask for it, but I do love it.
Thank you, ZOS.
.. Templar... soloing.. Hero?... Damn they nerfed the *** out of the VR Areas.3 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭EQ-AB_Claustaler_ESO-EU wrote: »Blackwidow wrote: »I have made 2,329 posts on these forums. (I know, sad) In all of those posts, not once did I ever ask for a nerf. I have never asked for the combat in ESO to be easier.
I like a challenging game.
That said, playing my Vet 8 Templar today, I felt like a hero again.
I felt powerful. I got to treat minions as the garbage that they are.
No longer do I need to beg a pack of mubcrabs for mercy!
I have to say I love the change. I didn't ask for it, but I do love it.
Thank you, ZOS.
.. Templar... soloing.. Hero?... Damn they nerfed the *** out of the VR Areas.
No, I'm just that skilled. I was soloing before today.
I'm sure with enough practice, you could have played a Templar.3 -
Kulthax✭✭✭
While I was not an advocate for the 'nerf' I completely understand where ZOS is coming from. It makes business sense to cater to the larger crowd.
Yeah I noticed that. I also remember it being used as justification for the nerf when the qqing was going the other way pre patch. Just a shame all the people waited until after the nerf to find their voices. I always suspected that the "difficulty too hard" gang was a vocal minority....at least on this forum. Seems I might have been right.
Prove to me they are the larger crowd. I know this forum isn't reflective of the larger player base but I never hear anyone in any of the 5 games I am in complaining that it was too easy and any polls here do seem to show the opposite.
While I could never prove that your side was in the minority neither can you. And I don't believe for a second that the reason the vet zones are empty is due to the difficulty. This will be proved when they are sill empty after the patch.
Log in and check out the VR zones now. It is not rocket science. People are happy with the change. People will finish their mains, finish alts. Those who are unhappy with this change to VR content are the vocal minority. 2 -
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While I was not an advocate for the 'nerf' I completely understand where ZOS is coming from. It makes business sense to cater to the larger crowd.
Yeah I noticed that. I also remember it being used as justification for the nerf when the qqing was going the other way pre patch. Just a shame all the people waited until after the nerf to find their voices. I always suspected that the "difficulty too hard" gang was a vocal minority....at least on this forum. Seems I might have been right.
Prove to me they are the larger crowd. I know this forum isn't reflective of the larger player base but I never hear anyone in any of the 5 games I am in complaining that it was too easy and any polls here do seem to show the opposite.
While I could never prove that your side was in the minority neither can you. And I don't believe for a second that the reason the vet zones are empty is due to the difficulty. This will be proved when they are sill empty after the patch.
Log in and check out the VR zones now. It is not rocket science. People are happy with the change. People will finish their mains, finish alts. Those who are unhappy with this change to VR content are the vocal minority.
Its easy to say the sky is yellow if you've never been outside.2 -
Hilgara✭✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »
Is that the same info that had them scale the difficulty the way it was after 2 years in beta. You give them far too much credit. They are reacting to unsubs that had a myriad of reasons but this was the easiest thing they could think of.
I'll get back to you with the proof next week when the vet zones are STILL EMPTY!Edited by Hilgara on July 7, 2014 8:16PM1 -
Shader_Shibes✭✭✭✭✭
✭The one thing i'm hoping for is the vet zones are more populated now. I don't care for the nerf, didn't need it imo, but if it brings players back, i'm all for it.0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »
Is that the same info that had them scale the difficulty the way it was after 2 years in beta. You give them far too much credit. They are reacting to unsubs that had a myriad of reasons but this was the easiest thing they could think of.
I'll bet back to you with the proof next week when the vet zones are STILL EMPTY!
You seem to be under the impression I want to feed your delusions of doom.
Just get it over with and start screaming F2P!!!!2 -
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✭✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »
While I was not an advocate for the 'nerf' I completely understand where ZOS is coming from. It makes business sense to cater to the larger crowd.
Yeah I noticed that. I also remember it being used as justification for the nerf when the qqing was going the other way pre patch. Just a shame all the people waited until after the nerf to find their voices. I always suspected that the "difficulty too hard" gang was a vocal minority....at least on this forum. Seems I might have been right.
Prove to me they are the larger crowd. I know this forum isn't reflective of the larger player base but I never hear anyone in any of the 5 games I am in complaining that it was too easy and any polls here do seem to show the opposite.
While I could never prove that your side was in the minority neither can you. And I don't believe for a second that the reason the vet zones are empty is due to the difficulty. This will be proved when they are sill empty after the patch.
Log in and check out the VR zones now. It is not rocket science. People are happy with the change. People will finish their mains, finish alts. Those who are unhappy with this change to VR content are the vocal minority.
Its easy to say the sky is yellow if you've never been outside.
You mean the way you screamed how bad the game will be days before the patch, or how you screamed how bad the patch is 5 minutes after the game came up without giving it a chance.6 -
Surinen✭✭✭I'm glad to hear it. It is the exact wording I was hoping to see on the forums. Enjoy your new found powers, Vestige.
[and look at my signature, join the Black Hair Crusade and let me-help me enjoy the content that you are currently conquering]Edited by Surinen on July 7, 2014 8:53PMMissing Altmer hair colour: black: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/110900/altmer-missing-hair-colour#latest0 -
yelloweyedemon✭✭✭Once a noob, always a noob. No matter how many hadicaps you guys get it won't change the fact.Blackwidow wrote: »
Eerm.. Legolas is an Elf. Not sure what he has to do with orcs...0 -
Hilgara✭✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »Blackwidow wrote: »
Is that the same info that had them scale the difficulty the way it was after 2 years in beta. You give them far too much credit. They are reacting to unsubs that had a myriad of reasons but this was the easiest thing they could think of.
I'll bet back to you with the proof next week when the vet zones are STILL EMPTY!
You seem to be under the impression I want to feed your delusions of doom.
Just get it over with and start screaming F2P!!!!
You mean the delusions of doom that you lot were predicting if they didn't nerf it? Nothing they have done will change the future of this game, whatever that might have been. Because they didn't fix what was wrong. They changed what was easy.0 -
isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »Modern video games are designed to make you a hero. One of the reasons I love the Stalker series is because it's designed to humiliate you.
I'm sad to see ESO being nerfed for the hero crowd. Got my lead through to the Fighter's Guild end at level 36. I'll run my level 34 vampire witch through the end later today, she hits harder than my lead, although she is much more fragile.
My army is still leveling nicely and my level 20 vampire DK just cruised the Retrieve Abner quest. My first to not die at all there. It seemed pretty good but I know they already nerfed that.
If you think it's fun to be humiliated, I'll sell you my ex for cheap.
Just logging in to try out the new, more enjoyable VR content. Had enough humiliation IRL, time to go pretend I'm something for an hour.
Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on July 7, 2014 8:24PM1 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yelloweyedemon wrote: »Once a noob, always a noob. No matter how many hadicaps you guys get it won't change the fact.Blackwidow wrote: »
Eerm.. Legolas is an Elf. Not sure what he has to do with orcs...
ROFLMAO!
The orcs were a common bad guy. Follow along with the conversation, please. 1 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You mean the delusions of doom that you lot were predicting if they didn't nerf it?
Please show me a quote saying anything about a nerf. I dare you. You will not find one.
I have never asked for a nerf, ever. I have never asked for the combat to be easier.
You barked up the wrong tree.Edited by Blackwidow on July 7, 2014 8:27PM1 -
Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »AlienDiplomat wrote: »
While I was not an advocate for the 'nerf' I completely understand where ZOS is coming from. It makes business sense to cater to the larger crowd.
Yeah I noticed that. I also remember it being used as justification for the nerf when the qqing was going the other way pre patch. Just a shame all the people waited until after the nerf to find their voices. I always suspected that the "difficulty too hard" gang was a vocal minority....at least on this forum. Seems I might have been right.
Prove to me they are the larger crowd. I know this forum isn't reflective of the larger player base but I never hear anyone in any of the 5 games I am in complaining that it was too easy and any polls here do seem to show the opposite.
While I could never prove that your side was in the minority neither can you. And I don't believe for a second that the reason the vet zones are empty is due to the difficulty. This will be proved when they are sill empty after the patch.
Log in and check out the VR zones now. It is not rocket science. People are happy with the change. People will finish their mains, finish alts. Those who are unhappy with this change to VR content are the vocal minority.
Its easy to say the sky is yellow if you've never been outside.
You mean the way you screamed how bad the game will be days before the patch, or how you screamed how bad the patch is 5 minutes after the game came up without giving it a chance.
I don't need to give getting kicked in the junk a chance. One quick tour of veteran 1-10 was plenty.
* Get troll slapped three times, lose only 1/3 health.
* Completely ignore ranged dagger throws. Take basically no damage.
* Solo Wisp Mother with no ward and letting wisps chew my light armor while finishing with over 2/3 health.
* Stand in fire and heavy attacks in light armor. Not die or even take 50% health damage.
I'll come back to this game when it offers me a free short bus ride.
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Lore and Story. defeating Daedric Prince is an achievement of godly proportions. literally.I hate the term 'trash' mobs? Who's to say those NPCs aren't the AI equivalent of you or I?
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Hilgara✭✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »You mean the delusions of doom that you lot were predicting if they didn't nerf it?
Please show me a quote saying anything about a nerf. I dare you. You will not find one.
I have never asked for a nerf, ever. I have never asked for the combat to be easier.
You barked up the wrong tree.
I said you LOT meaning the ones who couldn't manage the difficulty. Find one where I have ever said L2P1 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »You mean the delusions of doom that you lot were predicting if they didn't nerf it?
Please show me a quote saying anything about a nerf. I dare you. You will not find one.
I have never asked for a nerf, ever. I have never asked for the combat to be easier.
You barked up the wrong tree.
I said you LOT meaning the ones who couldn't manage the difficulty. Find one where I have ever said L2P
First: When you quote me and say "the lot of you" that would include me. I does not.
Second: I never said you said L2P.
Put down the crack pipe and step away from the children.
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✭✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »
I'll come back to this game when it offers me a free short bus ride.
No need. I'll send you a letter when it's safe to come back.
No worries.
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