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Patch v1.2.3 Known Issues
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GTech_1✭✭✭✭
Darzil, please give us more information on this. Which class are you playing, which abilities are on your bar, etc.Switching off sound sorted out my lag/skill delay/effects delay effects etc in PvE completely : http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117081/fps-lag-fix-tested-in-cyrodiil
Many changes have been recently made re: sound effects in the game, and advanced forward rendering (objects load faster while you are riding your horse, etc).
It is indeed entirely possible that sounds are the cause of some (or dare I say all) of these issues. Audio file use optimizations are Very important in games such as ESO.
I will be jumping on my night blade later tonight so I can attempt to replicate the issue and sort out a good test report.
My night blade and my templar are the only characters that I have seen with this issue.
If I can replicate the issue you had, with the same class and ability set, I should be able to get these good folks the info they need to determine the source of the issue.
Additionally, if only certain class abilities are affected, that would show us why only certain users are affected and not all of us.
TL;DR: Darzil, tell me your ability set so I can try to replicate the issue for a report.1 -
Darzil✭✭✭I only tried it because it was suggested here,
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117081/fps-lag-fix-tested-in-cyrodiil, so I was not the first to find and benefit from this. It worked for this person with his Cyrodiil issues, and me for my PvE issues.
I'm a bow nightblade, usually use Reaper's Mark, Funnel Health, Volcanic Rune, Draining Shot, Killer's Blade. Against Daedra/Undead I put in Evil Hunter and Turn Undead instead of Reaper's Mark and Volcanic Rune. Have had the issue with both combos (with sound on). With sound off today I did all Dolmen's in Grahtwood with a large group and zero issues. Two nights ago with sound on that was impossible. (I guess I should switch sound on and try again).
On NA server as Bofi Ragnalson if you are too and want to test together.1 -
GTech_1✭✭✭✭Thanks for the info Darzil. I will attempt to replicate the issue later tonight with your setup.
If nothing else, I may be able to rule a few things out, or better yet, get some info that points them directly toward the issue.
Either way, it should be helpful.
P.s I posted in the thread that you linked, hoping to get more info from the folks over there as well.2 -
SkOODaT✭✭✭@ZOS_JessicaFolsom ty for the reply please pass to devs to consider adding NPC PVE target XY in future as vendor mapping its alot easier and more accurate then players X,Y1 -
vanzan✭✭✭ZOS please understand
1. We are unable to PVP, for many of us this is the only method of gameplay we play in ESO
2. We are still paying for a sub (We are paying for a service or in our current case paying for no service)
3. On resolution we want to know what has changed in the process so this will not happen again. (You are delivering a service)
4. Give us confidence to continue the service.
Vanzan Lizardman - TKG4 -
Looking at this thread it seams that one group is "attacking" ZOS but actually wanting better game, other group is "defending" ZOS regardless of game.
I belong in first group.
Actually game is in bad shape and people would like to know where game is going. Present level of communication is not sufficient obviously but still better then process which converts needs to the game itself,
Still nothing is changing coz i havent saw ZOS is introducing process improvements in structured way, and if so how changes could happen.
Second group is defending ZOS representatives and treat them as friends coz of some, to me unknown, reason
Answer we are looking from ZOS is - "Ball stops with me ! This is the way how we will improve things and stop this and this from happening". When i look at statements made by ZOS representatives it sounds more like most of stuff just happens and thats the way how life is. We dont need that - tell us how u will improve things. We dont need sympathy and u will not get any from most of people coz like i said for most of people u already crossed that thin line.
ZOS u really should get your priorities right. Instead of counting wolfs and wolf leaders u should make us trust u again, fix deal breaking bugs and introduce balance to the classes and stamina / magic builds.6 -
david.haypreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭The level of communication seems not that bad to me. At least they are giving us updates.
What is crippling is their total inability to solve the FPS issue. Two outright failures and going on two weeks of a broken game is really not acceptable. If you can't fix it after two tries and two weeks, roll the game back until you can.Edited by david.haypreub18_ESO on July 4, 2014 1:59AMTemplars are 'just slower... by design'
Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
VR 16 Templar (retired until Templars get fixed)
VR 16 Sorcerer
38 Nightblade
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GTech_1✭✭✭✭tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »Looking at this thread it seams that one group is "attacking" ZOS but actually wanting better game, other group is "defending" ZOS regardless of game.
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I am in neither of those groups, so you can count me into a 3rd group, even if I'm all by myself.
The group that enjoys the game enough to try to help make it better for everyone, and does not feel the need to "attack" anyone. This group also has no delusions about the ease or difficulty of finding the real bugs and fixing them. This group understands the frustrations on both sides of these issues first hand, from experience, and strives to relieve them, rather than inflame them.4 -
tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »Looking at this thread it seams that one group is "attacking" ZOS but actually wanting better game, other group is "defending" ZOS regardless of game.
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I am in neither of those groups, so you can count me into a 3rd group, even if I'm all by myself.
The group that enjoys the game enough to try to help make it better for everyone, and does not feel the need to "attack" anyone. This group also has no delusions about the ease or difficulty of finding the real bugs and fixing them. This group understands the frustrations on both sides of these issues first hand, from experience, and strives to relieve them, rather than inflame them.
In the moment when they fix fps issue i will come to your group
Note : being normal is privilege of people who can afford it ...Edited by tino.antoninieb17_ESO on July 4, 2014 7:05AM1 -
LonePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I was able to get the Tamriel Master Cave Dwelller achievement, although the Explorer title didn't show up on the Character Screen UI's drop-down list of titles, but bizarrely shared a "slot" on the list with Tamriel Hero, as choosing that title would then alternate between the two being displayed (!?) until a soft reset, and then it resolved on it's own.
I experienced this same problem this morning after clearing my last VR10 delve and earning the achievement. The title was not present on my Character screen along with all of the other titles.
Fortunately, logging out and logging in against refreshed the list and the Explorer title was now available to be selected. After all the pain I endured in my final three veteran zones overnight to earn this achievement and title, a simple log out was able to resolve it.
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quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »Looking at this thread it seams that one group is "attacking" ZOS but actually wanting better game, other group is "defending" ZOS regardless of game.
Huddled in that second group are also individuals who understand exactly what Dev is going through and yet others who realize there is no reason to throw tantrums and demands. They are working their asses off to get these issues addressed. They thought they had a fix earlier and rushed it out. Oops, turned out there could be a deeper problem. Some players are reporting no lag while playing in Cyrodiil. That just adds to the troubleshooting on their end.
Community Reps are also doing what they can to keep us updated. They provide as much information as they can. More than likely this will result in free game time for the players.
Take some deep breaths and relax. I find the game enjoyable enough to have the patience to let them get it addressed. Being frustrated is fine but raging (love the glyph of rage not being fixed reference) is simply a waste. Albeit hilarious!
Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
'I've never died in AvA. Undefeated!'
'My group of 4 will often take on 100+ with no problem. I have videos to prove it'
'All the abilities on my keyboard require real skill to spam'2 -
I believe critical chance is still bugged, whether a display issue or not. With Thief active and nothing else that I can tell, critical chance fluctuates between 6.6% and 10.6% and that's without equipping armor with divines. When I equip the armor pieces, 5.5% x 5 = 27.5%, nothing changes. Even if it was working, I believe the fraction is wrong anyway: 5% x 1.275% = 6.375% = 6.4%. I wonder if alliance war bonuses could be causing the value to fluctuate but none of them reference critical chance.
Also, the damage shield on my Dominion's Ice Staff doesn't seem to proc.Edited by Dharmabum on July 4, 2014 2:39PM1 -
Ilterendi✭✭✭quakedawg_ESO wrote: »tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »Looking at this thread it seams that one group is "attacking" ZOS but actually wanting better game, other group is "defending" ZOS regardless of game.
Huddled in that second group are also individuals who understand exactly what Dev is going through and yet others who realize there is no reason to throw tantrums and demands. They are working their asses off to get these issues addressed. They thought they had a fix earlier and rushed it out. Oops, turned out there could be a deeper problem. Some players are reporting no lag while playing in Cyrodiil. That just adds to the troubleshooting on their end.
Community Reps are also doing what they can to keep us updated. They provide as much information as they can. More than likely this will result in free game time for the players.
Take some deep breaths and relax. I find the game enjoyable enough to have the patience to let them get it addressed. Being frustrated is fine but raging (love the glyph of rage not being fixed reference) is simply a waste. Albeit hilarious!
It's not so much that it takes time to fix these bugs. It's about the fact that after each patch/update it seems more and more things are breaking or bugging out. I agree with the anger stemming from performance issues because at this level performance should be stable and the respective Dev Team should be targeting optimization rather than the current situation. However, I do not agree with outright "attacking" the devs and their level of competence.1 -
HiP✭✭I believe critical chance is still bugged, whether a display issue or not. With Thief active and nothing else that I can tell, critical chance fluctuates between 6.6% and 10.6% and that's without equipping armor with divines. When I equip the armor pieces, 5.5% x 5 = 27.5%, nothing changes. Even if it was working, I believe the fraction is wrong anyway: 5% x 1.275% = 6.375% = 6.4%. I wonder if alliance war bonuses could be causing the value to fluctuate but none of them reference critical chance.
Also, the damage shield on my Dominion's Ice Staff doesn't seem to proc.
when you take ennemy forts, you get critical chance bonuses every other fort. before, only the first 2% were displayed, even though it could be up to 8%. now you get the real value.1 -
Darzil✭✭✭Would really appreciate a ZOS post to acknowledge that turning off sound is helping many who have fps / ability lag issues, and that that information has been passed to the developers working on the issue to help them pinpoint the problem.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117081/fps-lag-fix-tested-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/116299/horrid-lag-mobs-not-visiable-players-not-visiable
Clearly switching off sound is only a temporary work around, but it's the only one I've found, and it turns the game from unplayable to playable very simply.1 -
When reading, this came to mind.ZOS please understand
1. We are unable to PVP, for many of us this is the only method of gameplay we play in ESO
2. We are still paying for a sub (We are paying for a service or in our current case paying for no service)
3. On resolution we want to know what has changed in the process so this will not happen again. (You are delivering a service)
4. Give us confidence to continue the service.
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference"Who is he?
What is he?
Where did he come from?4 -
Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭@ZOS_JessicaFolsom I didn't see one of the bugged quests on the list, so here it is in case it hasn't been brought up yet:
Shadowfen "Final Release": Najeepa's remains do not spawn.
Just like "And Throw Away The Key", no one's been able to complete it since patch 1.2.3.Edited by Lord_Draevan on July 4, 2014 6:26PMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server1 -
quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭sungodapollo976_ESO wrote: »When reading, this came to mind.
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference"
Hopefully you're not searching for wisdom on these forums
Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
'I've never died in AvA. Undefeated!'
'My group of 4 will often take on 100+ with no problem. I have videos to prove it'
'All the abilities on my keyboard require real skill to spam'2 -
Inzababa✭✭✭FPS Drop Issue: There are reports of FPS drops in larger battles in select campaigns including Wabbajack.
STATUS: Currently investigating additional causes to FPS drops.
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First, its not only on wabbajack, its on all campaigns
Second, its even worse than before your hot fix, the game (PVP) is totally unplayable as soon as there are any medium to large fights.
Resistance is FUtilezCivilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.
Resistance is FUtilez2 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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jmotz85ub17_ESOSoul ShrivenZOS please understand
1. We are unable to PVP, for many of us this is the only method of gameplay we play in ESO
2. We are still paying for a sub (We are paying for a service or in our current case paying for no service)
3. On resolution we want to know what has changed in the process so this will not happen again. (You are delivering a service)
4. Give us confidence to continue the service.
I received a ticket response earlier from ZoS directing me to the legal terms contract and apparently they are not responsible for the game being unplayable. http://www.zenimax.com/legal_terms_us - Section 6 is what I was referred to.5 -
mcmozes✭i created a tread with petition to give us gametimeback but they just closed it and i got a warning for my miss behavior....2
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RequiemfangSoul Shriveni created a tread with petition to give us gametimeback but they just closed it and i got a warning for my miss behavior....
you waive your right to that the moment you clicked on agree for the TOS. Really people you need to really learn to read the TOS before agreeing. It's a contract for a reason and it's a smart idea to actually read it and not scroll to the bottom just to make the agree with button appear so you can play the game.1 -
brandon✭✭✭✭jmotz85ub17_ESO wrote: »ZOS please understand
1. We are unable to PVP, for many of us this is the only method of gameplay we play in ESO
2. We are still paying for a sub (We are paying for a service or in our current case paying for no service)
3. On resolution we want to know what has changed in the process so this will not happen again. (You are delivering a service)
4. Give us confidence to continue the service.
I received a ticket response earlier from ZoS directing me to the legal terms contract and apparently they are not responsible for the game being unplayable. http://www.zenimax.com/legal_terms_us - Section 6 is what I was referred to.
That is a big heaping pile of ***. The terms not you btw.1 -
adino✭✭Folks, cancel subs. Even if you re-up right before your sub ends, it is important for ESO to get the message. To have performance issues at 3 months is beyond incompetence. It is insane! Bugs, balance, broken quests... ok fine. And I have not complained about those issues, but once the game became unplayable at 3 months... I cancelled sub. Just ridiculous. Cancel sub and post so it starts a pattern. No need to whine or rage... send the only clear message you can.4
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Sigma957✭✭✭✭✭The main issue i have ever since the patch are invisible enemies, no matter how many times i /reloadui. Mostly happen when enemies appear from no where like burial tombs in craglorn or dolems.1 -
adino✭✭tried the sound thing. did not work for me. I even got a new virus program because I thought maybe that was it. I optimized and still 6 to 14 fps. I just don't understand! I can tolerate jsut about anything. I am vr12 NB bow/dw and I don't whine or rage about how weak my class is (at least not until recently). But when they make the game unplayable... well then I get a little upset.
Love the game hate ESO staff. Cancel subs folks. Do it! If you love the game cancel your subs.3 -
NerZhulen89✭✭✭The minimum what they could do, is to say if we do not fix the fps until x.y., we will revert the game to 1.1.
Something is obviously preventing GPU's to work properly with the game, my GTX 760 never gets above 40 celsius, and only 40% of it is used, when I'm having my 5 fps.
Before 1.2 patch I was afraid my GPU will burn while playing TESO, it was getting extremely hot.3
