Mannimarco LOCKING important game features, AND almost impossible.

vanderghast

In a GAME, why the designers would place an almost impossible quest to do, for some classes, on the only road to UNLOCK important features in the game? Make a quest almost impossible to succeed to obtain some nice gear, fine with me, but here, MANNIMARCO is locking the game features themselves!

IS that supposed to be a GAME or what?

SOMETHING has to be done! That is a SERIOUS FLAW in that ... game.

GossiTheDog

You can do this quest. Have a look at the the tutorials on YouTube.

Catflinger

What, Castle of the Worm?

Evandus

Just did this quest a couple of days before on my main. May I ask what type of build you are running? Perhaps the community here can offer some suggestions.

KerinKor

What's being locked by this quest, I'm not high enough to have got it yet?

Evandus

I think he's referring to the lvl 35 main story quest where you go to Sancre Tor to get the amulet of kings. You have to defeat Mannimarco there.

vanderghast

I tried MANY times with a sorcerer, 1- 3- 1 ratios for mana-health-stamina. I can stand at almost 100% of every thing (mana/health/stamina) until I am left alone with him, at less than 20% of his hits points. From that point, even if I throw every thing that I have, even if he does not have any more visible health point, he refuses to die, and it is me who die.
I have no way to get gold LEFT to respec, since all other quests are done, and selling stuff from monster at 30 gold per inventory slot is... well, can HARDLY keep the REPAIR of my armor.

Dramonicous

Err... I dunno what class you are but you must be using a very poor builld.
I had a crappy NB build when I did it and I never even considered that this might be hard for anyone.. at all.

KerinKor

Evandus wrote: »

I think he's referring to the lvl 35 main story quest where you go to Sancre Tor to get the amulet of kings. You have to defeat Mannimarco there.

Ah, I see, that's the one I have to do next and am holding back till at least 40 due to the horrible things I've seen written about it being harder than Lyris in the quest before and that was a nightmare for me and I only beat it at 36.

vanderghast

Well, you don't read the forum if you think that Mannimarco is not hard... It is, and for MANY players, seeing the many posts about it.
Just a note, it is about the level 40 quest, not the one at a much lower level.

vanderghast

One, among others, of the features which are locked is the possibility to explore the other alliances areas. So, NO new SKYSHARDS, no new DUNGEONS. Almost nothing, in short (not! ABSOLUTELY NOT! )

Reenlister

vanderghast wrote: »

Well, you don't read the forum if you think that Mannimarco is not hard... It is, and for MANY players, seeing the many posts about it.
Just a note, it is about the level 40 quest, not the one at a much lower level.

Aye, it is hard. As you had said in another thread.
But he is beatable.
I had a sorcerer friend who died many times to him, but did of course finish him off in the end.
Best advice as I said in the other thread, and I hope you have the ability to do it.

Stay on him, up close and personal. Stay on the move.
Save Stamina back to bash him on his power.
When he moves, you move to him.
Again, this was a Heavy Temp Tank...
But it pretty much gets down to, you have to stay in his face and not give him the chance to suck you dry.

elemdor

In a Game i like some difficulty and lifetime. ESO offer some difficulty, even through some solo quest. You may like it, or not, but don't come crying "omygod it's impossible". You should question about your build and your skill instead of blaming the game. Furthermore, you play a sorcerer who have a good reputation for solo, and that s only the level 40 quest, what will you say when you'll have reach veteran 9...

vanderghast

I don't challenge the presence of difficulty, I challenge it in the case where it locks important GAME FEATURES.

By the way, I am not level 40, I am Veteran 1. Locked there.... because of Mannimarco. And, by the way, the game is really easy, otherwise (except for Mannimarco, and SoulHarvesters, but SoulHarvesters ARE not an obligation to be defeated SOLO, and don't unlock game feature.

As far a giving me order such as "don't come crying", WHO do you think ARE YOU?

beeriod

Maybe they can add a mushroom power up and you could just jump on his head once and he's dead? That sound easier? Try just swapping a few skills around like others have done, once you find the build that works for you the challenge will seem easier and it may even improve your build like it did for me on my Nightblade. The quest made me open up a new way of using my night blade which I have since adapted 1 or 2 more times (first being when i hit VR1) to the build I now use at VR10. Enjoy the challenge and adapt or VR1 zone will be a very challenging place aswell

vanderghast

I have no problem with a mushroom power and up, he is dead, and NOW, I can CONTINUE to PLAY that game, with that character. KILLING Mannimarco IS NOT OPTIONAL, is not something that I can bypass, without hurting the GAME CONTENT.

Weberda

The OP is a VR1 and can't beat Mannimarco??!? Boy, wait till he gets to Malag Bal and the 3 or 4 harvesters there.

vanderghast

I did, I did pass Molag Bal (in Coldharbour) nasodigitally (finger in the nose), by the way, for you info, with that "built" which can't pass Mannimarco, level 40 quest.

Reenlister

@vanderghast I hate to say this. But you seem to be only interested in proclaiming your plight. Many have agreed with you, he is a hard fight. I even answered your question on one way to beat him. You just seem to be stuck in this mode of proclaiming his impossibility and thus locking YOU.
I have to agree with all the others who have said, and it must be an answer you have not liked, you are doing something way wrong.
He is a hard fight, but again, not impossible. If you had to go all the way to the Vet level to beat him, then you better really start to look at your build.
I am the biggest advocate of play the way you want, but you want to be functional, and something in what your doing sure is not functional.

Congratulations on his defeat that I see you put up.

elemdor

So you are vet1 and can't beat the lvl40 mannimarco with a sorcerer?
Sorry for my previous answer, i thought it was a serious post

vanderghast

I am Vet 1, have defeated Molag, and cannot defeat Mannimarco (with that character, which is a sorcerer). That is what is it, indeed.

The point, though, is that defeating Mannimarco is definitively way too hard given it is a quest UNLOCKING important game's features, such as access to new areas.

Reenlister

vanderghast wrote: »

I am Vet 1, have defeated Molag, and cannot defeat Mannimarco (with that character, which is a sorcerer). That is what is it, indeed.

The point, though, is that defeating Mannimarco is definitively way too hard given it is a quest UNLOCKING important game's features, such as access to new areas.

No, at this point, my only answer is no.
You should read over the advice given you, and sadly accept the fact, that something is way wrong in what your doing.

vanderghast

No, as in Mannimarco is NOT too hard. Have a look around about many players who say otherwise. FINE if for YOUR build it was a trivial encounter, NOT FINE that it locks important game features.

Loxy37

Mannimaco used to be so much harder but it was nerfed to hell. The trick is to have decent pot that restore magicka and health or stam and health. Get purple food that boosts all 3 primary stats. If you are on the EU server, I can make you some (Send me a PM). Also what you need to be doing is not rushing to beat him, use your heavy attack/light attack on MM and when the adds appear, use AoE or magicka/stamina attacks on those and hopefully catch MM in the melee.

Also make sure you avoid his AoE attack, shield is not enough, roll FTW. If you have self heal or a barrier, use it. You really should see this has a warning of what's coming with Molag bal and if you cannot beat MM which is actually very easy then its a time to reassess your skill point choices. I'm not saying you should change anything but perhaps you could go away, get some sky shards, invest 1 point into grand healing for the healing staff, use it has a secondary weapon and heal with that, it will also help with Molag Bal.

Forgot to say. I can hook you up with Some 2 stat pots also. Pm me if you like.

wrlifeboil

If you don't want to change your build or play style, just outlevel the quest. You won't get xp but you get credit for doing the quest and you can do the next main line quest.

The only quest in the main quest line that you can't outlevel is Molag Bal.

Yankee

vanderghast wrote: »

I don't challenge the presence of difficulty, I challenge it in the case where it locks important GAME FEATURES.

By the way, I am not level 40, I am Veteran 1. Locked there.... because of Mannimarco. And, by the way, the game is really easy, otherwise (except for Mannimarco, and SoulHarvesters, but SoulHarvesters ARE not an obligation to be defeated SOLO, and don't unlock game feature.

As far a giving me order such as "don't come crying", WHO do you think ARE YOU?

Do you have somone else you intend to group all VR content with? Not trying to offend, but if you cannot beat Mannimarco with a VR1 character, you may not have fun solo in VR content.

wrlifeboil

Yankee wrote: »

vanderghast wrote: »

I don't challenge the presence of difficulty, I challenge it in the case where it locks important GAME FEATURES.

By the way, I am not level 40, I am Veteran 1. Locked there.... because of Mannimarco. And, by the way, the game is really easy, otherwise (except for Mannimarco, and SoulHarvesters, but SoulHarvesters ARE not an obligation to be defeated SOLO, and don't unlock game feature.

As far a giving me order such as "don't come crying", WHO do you think ARE YOU?

Do you have somone else you intend to group all VR content with? Not trying to offend, but if you cannot beat Mannimarco with a VR1 character, you really do not want to solo VR content. You will probably not have fun.

How do you beat Molag Bal to get to vr rank if you can't beat Mannimarco in non-vr ranks?

Reenlister

vanderghast wrote: »

No, as in Mannimarco is NOT too hard. Have a look around about many players who say otherwise. FINE if for YOUR build it was a trivial encounter, NOT FINE that it locks important game features.

And in this line, I am done.
You are not still listening. Your post continue to just bewoe your situation.
Its supposed to be a block to progression, its the main quest line.
I didn't say it was an easy fight, I died several times.
Yes, we all say he is hard.
But your just wanting something your way, while digging in your heels to say its not possibly anything you might be doing wrong.
Sorry again, but you must have gimped up something to the point that your really going to hate the Vet level areas in a bad way if you feel such anger toward the game design over this.
Good luck.

seneferab16_ESO

Get Fighters Guild ability Circle of Protection and if you can, morph it to Turn Undead. This, in combination of learning the fight and the order he is using his abilities in and counter them acoordingly makes it him very beatable.

Circle of Protection is a lifesaver in upcoming solo missions as well, so if you don't have it get it asap.

vanderghast

I don't have to wait Veteran level 2, right now, Mannimarco is NOT FUN for me, with this character. Period. My Veteran level 1 is just kept out of the game, by a serious game design flaw, of a game which pretends to be a MMO !

Yankee

wrlifeboil wrote: »

How do you beat Molag Bal to get to vr rank if you can't beat Mannimarco in non-vr ranks?

I do not know but the OP says he did. Apparently you can do Molag, hit VR1 but still have to do Mannimarco to get the Caldwells Gold quest accessing VR content?