64,680,700 Alliance Points Required to get to PvP Rank 50!!!!!!

Spawn

So i since i haven't seen it posted any where else i figure no one has really bothered to work out the formula so i figured i'd do it my self to take a look.

So the table below shows the rank points you need per level and then the total you gained at that level.


PvP Rank |Rank Points Till Next Level |Total Rank Points Gained
0 | 700 | 700
1 | 1600 | 2300
2 | 6400 | 8700
3 | 14400 | 23100
4 | 25600 | 48700
5 | 40000 | 88700
6 | 57600 | 146300
7 | 78400 | 224700
8 | 102400 | 327100
9 | 129600 | 456700
10 | 160000 | 616700
11 | 193600 | 810300
12 | 230400 | 1040700
13 | 270400 | 1311100
14 | 313600 | 1624700
15 | 360000 | 1984700
16 | 409600 | 2394300
17 | 462400 | 2856700
18 | 518400 | 3375100
19 | 577600 | 3952700
20 | 640000 | 4592700
21 | 705600 | 5298300
22 | 774400 | 6072700
23 | 846400 | 6919100
24 | 921600 | 7840700
25 | 1000000 | 8840700
26 | 1081600 | 9922300
27 | 1166400 | 11088700
28 | 1254400 | 12343100
29 | 1345600 | 13688700
30 | 1440000 | 15128700
31 | 1537600 | 16666300
32 | 1638400 | 18304700
33 | 1742400 | 20047100
34 | 1849600 | 21896700
35 | 1960000 | 23856700
36 | 2073600 | 25930300
37 | 2190400 | 28120700
38 | 2310400 | 30431100
39 | 2433600 | 32864700
40 | 2560000 | 35424700
41 | 2689600 | 38114300
42 | 2822400 | 40936700
43 | 2958400 | 43895100
44 | 3097600 | 46992700
45 | 3240000 | 50232700
46 | 3385600 | 53618300
47 | 3534400 | 57152700
48 | 3686400 | 60839100
49 | 3841600 | 64680700

Given its going to take 64,680,700 you would need to get a least ~177k Ap a Day for a whole year to get there, its one hell of a grind, At PvP Rank 24 When you get your rank 10 Assault and support you are just over 10% of the way there.

Have fun, its going to be a long ride.

Aballister

That's a lot of wall/door repair kits you can buy

leandro.800ub17_ESO

This means they can keep adding end game content in PVP without affecting leveling in the alliance

Sanguinantis

Well, it is said that there will be a lot of improvements for Cyrodiil in the near Future!
There will be other ways as the common ways today to get some PVP exp.
So relax, and enjoy the Game!

No need to hurry! Summer is coming anyways! :-)

Natjur

Any fast way to 'grind' PVP levels? Beside join a ZERG?

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

Wow thats way too much I hope your wrong. I want all the skill points available at some point in time and I severely doubt I will ever get them now. It should take the same amount of time as getting to veteran rank 10 without exploiting, then it would still take a long time, but it would be do able to the average man.

That kinda grind reminds me of runescape! ewwww!

lao

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

It should take the same amount of time as getting to veteran rank 10 without exploiting, then it would still take a long time, but it would be do able to the average man.

a week?

Spawn

Yeah getting the 50 Skills points from pvp is not as simple as farming skyshards

joshisanonymous

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

Wow thats way too much I hope your wrong. I want all the skill points available at some point in time and I severely doubt I will ever get them now. It should take the same amount of time as getting to veteran rank 10 without exploiting, then it would still take a long time, but it would be do able to the average man.

That kinda grind reminds me of runescape! ewwww!

It's not at all too long. It's just about perfect. It provides a character development incentive that can last years while also not hurting those who don't bother very much. Do you really need all 50 PvP rank skyshards? At 270 skill points on one character I'd have enough to do all 3 builds that I'm thinking about, every crafting passive that I'm interested in in every single craft, and every alliance, guild, and world passive that I could use. So I'd probably need ~20 skill points from PvP and considerably less if I focused on 1 build or at least on multiple builds that all use the same 2-3 weapons (instead of all 6).

I think you'll be okay.

TheGrandAlliance

Natjur wrote: »

Any fast way to 'grind' PVP levels? Beside join a ZERG?

Actually the AP farmers dont' join ZERGs. They may fight with them but they stay out of the raid group: MOre AP per kill.

Xancathb16_ESO

Jesus people, don't feel like you HAVE to get all 50 levels in pvp, think of it as a way of allowing an endless accumulation of AP.

That exp chart IS appreciated though.

limeli8

Natjur wrote: »

Any fast way to 'grind' PVP levels? Beside join a ZERG?

Yes! Don't join the zerg!

Rylana

Rank 9 reporting in, and I am just fine with that.

Igolbug

so... your saying I could do it in 2 years as long as I have a good night at least once a week.

popatiberiuoneb18_ESO

Thanks for the formula. It sounds out of reach for your average player but for a dedicated player (with spare time) its alot closer then you'd think. Now thats what i call a hard earned skill point ))

Spawn

Biggest issue atm is that Rank 24 is only like 10% of the way and besides skill points they don't have rewards for ranks afterwards, which is a bit sad, once you got support and assault maxed nothing to look forward to, maybe a leadership tree link or something might be nice.

popatiberiuoneb18_ESO

Spawn wrote: »

Biggest issue atm is that Rank 24 is only like 10% of the way and besides skill points they don't have rewards for ranks afterwards, which is a bit sad, once you got support and assault maxed nothing to look forward to, maybe a leadership tree link or something might be nice.

I'd imagine not many that reached that milestone as the game is very young. Give it time, im sure they will come up with future rewards as people get closer to it...hopefully...

Mange

Rank 12 reporting in, it's to much and very unrewarding. Cyrodiil was poorly done, bottom line.

It was a terrible idea to have campaign rewards that can be maxed out in a few hours and have them only available every 3 months.

It was a terrible idea to make the gear AP costs (VR10) several days worth of in-game play inside Cyrodiil. You will just seek equal or better gear elsewhere.

It was a terrible idea to think this kind of content would last and that titles alone would be appealing enough to keep players coming out to PVP.

popatiberiuoneb18_ESO

Mange wrote: »

Rank 12 reporting in, it's to much and very unrewarding. Cyrodiil was poorly done, bottom line.

It was a terrible idea to have campaign rewards that can be maxed out in a few hours and have them only available every 3 months.

It was a terrible idea to make the gear AP costs (VR10) several days worth of in-game play inside Cyrodiil. You will just seek equal or better gear elsewhere.

It was a terrible idea to think this kind of content would last and that titles alone would be appealing enough to keep players coming out to PVP.

I agree with moast of it. I dont agree on the sets though, everyone and their granda is having a fullset of light/medium/heavy cyrodiil armours in bank/alts since its so easy to get it from bags. It should be somewhat harder to aquire them. They should also remove the reduction vs players and replace it with something as useful in pve as in pvp, i dont care about the pve aspect, its frustrating and poorly made but i am highly against the "vs players bonuses".

The AP prices would be fairly fine if there were no set pieces in bags and if they left the VR level at 10...the dungeon sets are waaay harder to aquire then the RvR sets, even if bought for AP. Once Craglorn comes out you'll find yourself grinding a whole new vr 12 set, be it Craglorn or RvR drop/barter.

Kewljag_66_ESO

These ranks arent ment to be achieved any time soon, they are a reason to keep playing and a rank to aim for so you never hit that im finished wall.

LOL this actually looks much more obtainable than from their last game. In Dark Age of Camelot more than half of the people never hit Realm Rank 5. At first the cap was Rank 10 and took people 2 years to hit it, then it was raised to rank 13 and finally after 7 years a player named Jeep hit it. 99.999% of players never even came close

Sociabear

Do you people have to be rewarded for everything ? Jesus Christ go play a damn FPS.

Enjoy the freakin game, such whiny brats everywhere anymore.

joshisanonymous

popatiberiuoneb18_ESO wrote: »

They should also remove the reduction vs players and replace it with something as useful in pve as in pvp, i dont care about the pve aspect, its frustrating and poorly made but i am highly against the "vs players bonuses".

Wha?? They've stated multiple times that there were no PvP-specific stats. I find that troubling myself, but you seem to be right if this list is accurate. That was something that bothered me a great deal about games like Warhammer and Rift, particularly when you need to play PvP to earn the gear with the PvP stats, as this puts up a very large barrier for late-comers. Hopefully that 5% damage reduction will remain the de facto cap. That's low enough that I don't think those sets are automatically the best choice for PvP.

Nijjion

Taken the top tier players 1 month to get 8 mil, to get 64mil should take like 7-8 if active every day like these people are.

I like the steep curve reminds me of DAoC... just need more prominent alliance ranks shown on enemies like DAoC titles.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

joshisanonymous wrote: »

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

Wow thats way too much I hope your wrong. I want all the skill points available at some point in time and I severely doubt I will ever get them now. It should take the same amount of time as getting to veteran rank 10 without exploiting, then it would still take a long time, but it would be do able to the average man.

That kinda grind reminds me of runescape! ewwww!

It's not at all too long. It's just about perfect. It provides a character development incentive that can last years while also not hurting those who don't bother very much. Do you really need all 50 PvP rank skyshards? At 270 skill points on one character I'd have enough to do all 3 builds that I'm thinking about, every crafting passive that I'm interested in in every single craft, and every alliance, guild, and world passive that I could use. So I'd probably need ~20 skill points from PvP and considerably less if I focused on 1 build or at least on multiple builds that all use the same 2-3 weapons (instead of all 6).

I think you'll be okay.

Heck yeah I want all those skill points! I like to get everything done. I think today I played for like 6 hours and got like 30k ap. This is going to take way too long if its 64m ap for rank 50. Its not like im not doing anything while im playing either, I assaulted and defended pretty much every keep during that time. It was an intense day of pvp!

Mendoze

Heh, that sure is a lot But I think daily AP gains will raise when people are getting to higher pvp levels. At least I have vague memory that higher level people give more AP. So maybe in few months 100k AP per day is not such a feat anymore.

popatiberiuoneb18_ESO

joshisanonymous wrote: »

popatiberiuoneb18_ESO wrote: »

They should also remove the reduction vs players and replace it with something as useful in pve as in pvp, i dont care about the pve aspect, its frustrating and poorly made but i am highly against the "vs players bonuses".

Wha?? They've stated multiple times that there were no PvP-specific stats. I find that troubling myself, but you seem to be right if this list is accurate. That was something that bothered me a great deal about games like Warhammer and Rift, particularly when you need to play PvP to earn the gear with the PvP stats, as this puts up a very large barrier for late-comers. Hopefully that 5% damage reduction will remain the de facto cap. That's low enough that I don't think those sets are automatically the best choice for PvP.

If it was only the 5%....check this set out:

Bastion of the Heartland

(3 items) Adds 75 Max Health
(4 items) Reduce damage taken from players by 5%
(5 items) Reduce damage taken from siege weapons and player AoE spells by 20%
*Requires Veteran Rank 10 (bag purchase)
*Heavy Armor

I can confirm the set is in game, in fac i got multiple drops of all the pieces in pvp bags and own a full set myself. You can see it at the hevy armour vendor in cyrodiil once you hit vr1.

EDIT: and so goes for any other pvp set in that list you linked, they are in game

Lowbei

pvp lvls seem to go fairly quickly for me. im 14 i think and i only pvp on the weekends for a couple hours a night.

just stop zerging and you wont feel like its a grind.

Spawn

I'm sure in the future they will add some more rewards, i just hope it doesn't take to long, i already know a few players that are discouraged slightly from pvping because they are past the point of decent rewards besides skill points.

Lowbei

yeah, i look forward to a real daoc style pvp reward system

joshisanonymous

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

I think you'll be okay.

Heck yeah I want all those skill points! I like to get everything done. I think today I played for like 6 hours and got like 30k ap. This is going to take way too long if its 64m ap for rank 50. Its not like im not doing anything while im playing either, I assaulted and defended pretty much every keep during that time. It was an intense day of pvp![/quote]

Good, so I guess you'll be sticking around for a while. Ya know, to make sure to satisfy your completionist OCD.

Talcyndl

Natjur wrote: »

Any fast way to 'grind' PVP levels? Beside join a ZERG?

Killing a zerg.