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european player hit by maintenance on holyday again

  • lucablue
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    So yesterday maintaince.
    Today Maintaince
    Tomorrow Maintaince
    After tomorrow (friday) scheduled maintaince...

    I'm paying a subscription to have a server everyday maintaince???
  • Sakiri
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    Syntse wrote: »
    Hexi wrote: »
    Here in Finland, it's "get shitfaced" day and I for one will be way too hungover to care. :)

    Or you get wasted and game on wed, wake up and get wasted again and game, Friday you call your boss that there is some strange stomach bug going on and you need sick leave and then you get wasted and play, sat, sun repeat.

    On Monday you are hungover and get to work and have worst day of your life. Once you get back home to play some more you notice all your money and items are gone and worn items have totally broken. And someone has created 7 more characters to your account with funny names.

    I hear Finns get wasted often. True or not?

    They eat Salmiak as candy, and run naked in the snow, so it is probably true :P

    Ah yeah theres that. And Ill be in Scandinavia in April next year. Dont remember if Norway is part of Schengen?

    We are
    Good. Means if I get some weird desire to border hop I dont need a visa.

    +1

    Depends on how long you're going to stay

    180 days a year in Schengen withiut a visa. Probably there 10 days or until the hermit kicks me out. Staying with a Swede that hasnt had guests much less overnight in 20 years.
  • Harkrider
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    lucablue wrote: »
    So yesterday maintaince.
    Today Maintaince
    Tomorrow Maintaince
    After tomorrow (friday) scheduled maintaince...

    I'm paying a subscription to have a server everyday maintaince???

    Technically, yes you are. :smiley:
  • steveb16_ESO46
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    lucablue wrote: »
    So yesterday maintaince.
    Today Maintaince
    Tomorrow Maintaince
    After tomorrow (friday) scheduled maintaince...

    I'm paying a subscription to have a server everyday maintaince???

    Don't forget the as yet unannounced 'surprise' Saturday and Sunday maintenance.
  • zefboom
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    And they havent still moved the european server in eu! jeez, we'r still playing with 150\200ms lag.
  • Elgarr
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    Masadi wrote: »
    Elgarr wrote: »
    Look, all I know was they said Friday was going to be the day once a week they scheduled patches for.

    Can you please stick to what you say, it's getting bs the amount of downtime you need.

    Better still, do the maintenance at night, at least then it has the least impact on players like 2am- 8am.

    2014 and we get this crap, learn from other game companies or fail like so many others have.

    Its bad enough you don't even have European servers in Europe.....

    ptgia4xecuwd.jpg


    Let me guess another fan boy?

    Seriously, people like you were the reason swtor went F2P in under a year, and will be the cause of this games demise if you don't stop defending bs from the company.

    What's so unacceptable about wanting downtime for maintenance when majority of people sleep?

    Seriously, stop being a ***!
  • Masadi
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    lucablue wrote: »
    So yesterday maintaince.
    Today Maintaince
    Tomorrow Maintaince
    After tomorrow (friday) scheduled maintaince...

    I'm paying a subscription to have a server everyday maintaince???

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    @Harkrider‌ I think there breeding....

    Edited by Masadi on April 30, 2014 6:51AM
  • DarthWanderer
    lucablue wrote: »
    So yesterday maintaince.
    Today Maintaince
    Tomorrow Maintaince
    After tomorrow (friday) scheduled maintaince...

    I'm paying a subscription to have a server everyday maintaince???

    actually, you pay subscription to cover the expenses for those technicians, wha are not able to fix issues in first attempt, but they need three or four tries to get things done. they are probably paid by hour...

    it is really stupid to do this maintenenace in daytime instead of night hours. ppl wake up - and yay, surprise, server down

    all this looks rly unproffesional, and every honest company would reimburse their customers for such inconvenience
  • Elgarr
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    Masadi wrote: »
    lucablue wrote: »
    So yesterday maintaince.
    Today Maintaince
    Tomorrow Maintaince
    After tomorrow (friday) scheduled maintaince...

    I'm paying a subscription to have a server everyday maintaince???

    6. Availability of Services and Content; Game Maintenance, Patches, Updates; Termination of Services

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    ZeniMax may patch, update, or modify at any time with or without notice to You. Notwithstanding the foregoing, ZeniMax has no obligation to make available any patches, updates or modifications or correct any errors or defects in the Services. ZeniMax makes no guarantees about the persistence or availability of any user names or other personas at any time and assumes no liability for lost or deleted Account data. Except as prohibited by applicable law, You agree that ZeniMax will not be liable for any interruption of the Services, delay or failure to perform, any loss of Content (including, but not limited to, User-Generated Content and Downloadable Content), and/or Account data (including, but not limited to, Character data) resulting from any causes whatsoever. ZeniMax reserves the right to offer new Services, change and/or discontinue certain Services at any time in its sole discretion.

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    @Harkrider‌ I think there breeding....

    Yup defo a FanBoy when they quote the TOS.

    Lol you really don't get the bigger picture, page marked for future ref!

  • Perseas
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    tomorrow is 1st of may and its a national holyday in my country. People move out from their houses and welcome spring, they make tiaras in their head, made by spring flowers they found in the valleys, we do picnics and stuff. Everything is shut down in the public sector (except communications and traffic)

    Its not exactly a religius thing, its a very very ancient tradition, from ...10.000bc even older.. very ancient records about that.
    Edited by Perseas on April 30, 2014 6:57AM
  • Sakiri
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    Fanboy or not hes right.
  • Masadi
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    Elgarr wrote: »
    Masadi wrote: »
    lucablue wrote: »
    So yesterday maintaince.
    Today Maintaince
    Tomorrow Maintaince
    After tomorrow (friday) scheduled maintaince...

    I'm paying a subscription to have a server everyday maintaince???

    6. Availability of Services and Content; Game Maintenance, Patches, Updates; Termination of Services

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be available at all times, in all countries and/or geographic locations, at any given time, or that it will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time. Except as prohibited by applicable law, ZeniMax reserves the right to change and update Content without notice to You. ZeniMax also reserves the right to refuse Your request(s) to acquire Content, and to limit or block any request to acquire Content, including, but not limited to, Downloadable Content, for any reason.

    ZeniMax may patch, update, or modify at any time with or without notice to You. Notwithstanding the foregoing, ZeniMax has no obligation to make available any patches, updates or modifications or correct any errors or defects in the Services. ZeniMax makes no guarantees about the persistence or availability of any user names or other personas at any time and assumes no liability for lost or deleted Account data. Except as prohibited by applicable law, You agree that ZeniMax will not be liable for any interruption of the Services, delay or failure to perform, any loss of Content (including, but not limited to, User-Generated Content and Downloadable Content), and/or Account data (including, but not limited to, Character data) resulting from any causes whatsoever. ZeniMax reserves the right to offer new Services, change and/or discontinue certain Services at any time in its sole discretion.

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    @Harkrider‌ I think there breeding....

    Yup defo a FanBoy when they quote the TOS.

    Lol you really don't get the bigger picture, page marked for future ref!

    @Elgarr‌
    Calling me fanboy since you know I'm right?

    Yes, I do enjoy elder scroll games but I've played in MMO's for years, nearly half my life, tell you this, ToS really a underrated thing in everything, people don't read them, then moan about not getting there way.

    Look at GAME, they owned your soul via ToS and it took months for people to notice, call me a fanboy much as you like but the fact I'm correct won't change.

    Also page refernced for what? Your stupidity? The fact you have no arguement or fail to show the "Bigger Picture", learn more about the world before moaning. <3

    Edited by Masadi on April 30, 2014 7:07AM
  • DanteYoda
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    I don't mean to sound nasty but us Oceanic's have been asking for changes since the game opened as we cannot play, and everyone tells us to STFU and live with it..

    Now it affects you guys its all of a sudden not cool and bad... one sided much..
  • Masadi
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    I don't mean to sound nasty but us Oceanic's have been asking for changes since the game opened as we cannot play, and everyone tells us to STFU and live with it..

    Now it affects you guys its all of a sudden not cool and bad... one sided much..

    No your right in some ways, people just moan for the sake of moaning, I get it from customers at work all the time, due to they have nothing better to do.

    There fixing the issue for us, if it wasn't fixed people would be on here shout out, "servers are unplayible, QQ" you know the normal,

    Yes they havn't said anything about it but the fact the servers have came down means there doing something.
  • Sakiri
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    I don't mean to sound nasty but us Oceanic's have been asking for changes since the game opened as we cannot play, and everyone tells us to STFU and live with it..

    Now it affects you guys its all of a sudden not cool and bad... one sided much..

    Yeah if anyone has the right to kvetch about maintenance its the Oz crowd.
  • AngryNord
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    At least in the EU, though, ToS aren't binding if they contradict other legislation on customer rights.
  • theinsaneb16_ESO
    You can all say what you want, I defended Bethesda and ZOS a few times.
    But enough is enough, 2 till 3 times a week its some maintenance for hours straight.
    I paid around 130euro to play this game and would like to see something back in return because I (and ofc many many more) cant play 2 or 3 times a week because of all the maintenance happening. But still alot of players have spend 130euro if not more.
    I dont know how but to not loose alot of your payment customers it might be a good thing to give something back like 4 days+ or so free game time. (atleast)

    We also never ever hear some straight answers or information, everything is so mysterious as it can be. Even the "real" scheduled maintenances are announced very late 1 day before its happening and usually on twitter.

    NOT everyone is on twitter you really have to put info earlier for all of us and not only on twitter. In some MMO's I played there is downtime announced for "scheduled" maintenances 2 or 3 days before its happening.

    pls ZOS give us some re-imburst or free game time because I know some already stopped playing and more will follow if nothing happens to the customers that paid for it.

    TESO is an awesome game but 2 or 3 times a week downtime for a couple of hours is making the game less attractive

    sorry ZOS and bethesda but this is my 2cents
  • dragnar12
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    sorry we rushed the game out
    cus we wanted your money
    we knew that the new mmo,s releasing soon ( name,s here )
    would take eway money from our game
    ty for your money
    we did not have end game content
    so we just made other factions the end game ( smart right ? )
    any way ty for your money TY TY TY TY TY
    now could u plz give us more so we can get a bigger car ?

    we promise we will add expansive items to the shop
    like a 20 usd horse saddle ( so u can give us more money )

    most of u bought our imperial edition
    so we know u like pay walls in our game
    and we promise we will add more of those in the future !

    we love u !

    ps there are no bugs
    just restart your computer or type /camp
    or disable your addons

    also we have the servers in the usa ( to save us money )
    and maintenance will alwase be in fav of american players
    we love to make money and this is the cheapest way for us
    Edited by dragnar12 on April 30, 2014 7:12AM
  • Bazzakrak
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    There will always be downtime that will affect someone in the worls somewhere at sometime.

    The "smart" solution for a gaming company is to look at when the fewest/most players are online, and then schedule their downtimes at the times when they would affect the fewest people.
    But at the same time, they will also look at a cost/benefit on when to have these downtimes. Is the cost to high to have X amount of techs in at a ungodly hour to satisfy Y amount of players.

    We as players have in some way accept that downtimes fall at weird times for us, and all we can do is ask nicely and proper for them to rethink their schedules.
    And off course, we expect them to listen to us, but after that talk has been going on between them and us, we will have to accept in some way that the schedule is as it is, and stop making all these rant posts.

    Let the flaming begin.
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  • lucablue
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    I know about terms and conditions... every game is the same... but not everygame do maintaince EVERYDAY and EVERYMORNING...

    Anyway? Really also saturday and sunday maintaince?
    The patch 1.0.6 cannot be upload during friday maintaince instead tomorrow where are many ppl in Europe can play all day long since is holiday??
  • Nemesis7884
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    I don't mean to sound nasty but us Oceanic's have been asking for changes since the game opened as we cannot play, and everyone tells us to STFU and live with it..

    Now it affects you guys its all of a sudden not cool and bad... one sided much..

    you got koalas...thats something
    Edited by Nemesis7884 on April 30, 2014 7:16AM
  • Myrddraal
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    First off - Holyday isnt a word and im pretty sure the TS meant holiday.

    Either way, that is not the issue. The issue is that the servers are offline when allot of people want to be online.

    What time zones are they using where Zenimax are working? I thought they were 5-6 hours earlier than central europe.

    Therefore, why can they not have the servers down 4-5 hours earlier than they do now? Most people in Europe will be asleep then.
  • AngryNord
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    Depends on how long you're going to stay

    180 days a year in Schengen withiut a visa. Probably there 10 days or until the hermit kicks me out. Staying with a Swede that hasnt had guests much less overnight in 20 years. [/quote]

    *tickles Sakiri*
  • Sakiri
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    At least in the EU, though, ToS aren't binding if they contradict other legislation on customer rights.

    Taking the server down in order to rectify issues in good faith cant possibly violate customer rights.

    Also, expecting server uptime because its a special day or whatever isnt realistically feasible when you *must* fix the problem. If they left it up there would be more endless qq about lag.
  • Sakiri
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    Bazzakrak wrote: »
    There will always be downtime that will affect someone in the worls somewhere at sometime.

    The "smart" solution for a gaming company is to look at when the fewest/most players are online, and then schedule their downtimes at the times when they would affect the fewest people.
    But at the same time, they will also look at a cost/benefit on when to have these downtimes. Is the cost to high to have X amount of techs in at a ungodly hour to satisfy Y amount of players.

    We as players have in some way accept that downtimes fall at weird times for us, and all we can do is ask nicely and proper for them to rethink their schedules.
    And off course, we expect them to listen to us, but after that talk has been going on between them and us, we will have to accept in some way that the schedule is as it is, and stop making all these rant posts.

    Let the flaming begin.

    They did that. This isnt regular maintenance.
  • Audigy
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    I don't mean to sound nasty but us Oceanic's have been asking for changes since the game opened as we cannot play, and everyone tells us to STFU and live with it..

    Now it affects you guys its all of a sudden not cool and bad... one sided much..

    In my case I don't complain about downtimes, I complain that they changed it from tomorrow to today. I find that decision unwise, as tomorrow is a holiday day in Europe and most Europeans go on parties later today and wont get home before tomorrow morning.

    That's why moving the downtime from Friday to Thursday is a bad move, it would had affected a lot less people tomorrow plus it was announced for tomorrow.
  • ZOS_TristanK
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