Why is this game not a sandbox?
Trilo
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Hello. I'm new in the forums, but what the hell were the developers thinking?? ES has always been about sandboxes and this game isn't?!?!? Some of the quests are boring as hell. Where is TG or DB quests? 5/10. I expected more from you ESO.
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shandrew82✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Because sandboxes fail hard. Without exception.
This. If it were a sandbox game there would be 100's of posts asking "Wow, I can't find anything, this game is stupid, where do I go???"
As is, you can go anywhere you want in each zone, so its not really all that restricted.
But thats just my opinion
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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Because sandboxes fail hard. Without exception.
You know there is one exception... but yeah you are right, sadly.
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Hello. I'm new in the forums, but what the hell were the developers thinking?? ES has always been about sandboxes and this game isn't?!?!? Some of the quests are boring as hell. Where is TG or DB quests? 5/10. I expected more from you ESO.
news just in: this is NOT Elders Scrolls VI, this another type of game based on ES lore. Also, if you took off your rose coloured glasses you might realise, not every quest in all the ES games that came before were interesting either. In fact I cant name a single game ever in which every single quest was gold.
PS they were clear well before launch those guilds would be coming later.
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Greydog✭✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »Because sandboxes fail hard. Without exception.
That's because, sadly, many people have no imagination
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Trilo✭byghostlightrwb17_ESO wrote: »Hello. I'm new in the forums, but what the hell were the developers thinking?? ES has always been about sandboxes and this game isn't?!?!? Some of the quests are boring as hell. Where is TG or DB quests? 5/10. I expected more from you ESO.
news just in: this is NOT Elders Scrolls VI, this another type of game based on ES lore. Also, if you took off your rose coloured glasses you might realise, not every quest in all the ES games that came before were interesting either. In fact I cant name a single game ever in which every single quest was gold.
PS they were clear well before launch those guilds would be coming later.
LOL. I expected an Elder Scrolls game, but I got crap. You may want a WOW clone, but I don't. I played wow for two months and stopped.It was so boring. People need to wake up and smell the roses and see that this game has major flaws.1 -
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✭byghostlightrwb17_ESO wrote: »Hello. I'm new in the forums, but what the hell were the developers thinking?? ES has always been about sandboxes and this game isn't?!?!? Some of the quests are boring as hell. Where is TG or DB quests? 5/10. I expected more from you ESO.
news just in: this is NOT Elders Scrolls VI, this another type of game based on ES lore. Also, if you took off your rose coloured glasses you might realise, not every quest in all the ES games that came before were interesting either. In fact I cant name a single game ever in which every single quest was gold.
PS they were clear well before launch those guilds would be coming later.
LOL. I expected an Elder Scrolls game, but I got crap. You may want a WOW clone, but I don't. I played wow for two months and stopped.It was so boring. People need to wake up and smell the roses and see that this game has major flaws.
if you think this is a wow clone I'm surprised you figured out how to turn the computer on.
I'm guessing your first elder scrolls was skyrim? possibly oblivion? ES hasn't always been a hiking simulator that made the entire world level to your character. Its closer to morrowind and previous titles.
Even skyrim isn't really a "sandbox" its still a progressive RPG with a world that levels to your character. There is a reason some of the most popular mods for skyrim and oblivion bring them more in line with morrowind.
I'm glad it isn't Skyrim online - can you even imagine what a hot mess it would be if everyone could kill all the npcs knock everything around and steal everything? It would be elder trolls online.
also as an above poster said sandbox MMOs always fail hardcore. I tend to enjoy them but they fail fast. There is a reason Archage cratered in Korea. Here is a list of "sandbox" MMOs for you to try instead (some are even free to play)
Ultima Online
Mortal
Wurm Online
There are a lot more actually. I'm done spoon feeding you.
http://bit.ly/1hvXjzWEdited by Laura on April 25, 2014 11:16PM2 -
Eris✭✭✭✭People don't know what wow-clone means. There are MMO related terms that people throw around that they just don't understand. If wow-clone meant that the game had more than 1 player and graphics then sure, this game meets that criteria, but on any other level it's just a term being thrown out by someone who doesn't understand what it means.Side effects of reading messages on forums can cause nausea, head aches, spontaneous fits of rage, urination due to intense laughter, and sometimes the death of your monitor or other object in throwing range. If you find that you are reading forums more than 24 hours a day, please consult your nearest temporal physicist.4
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FrauPerchta✭✭✭Sandbox/Open world games can do well. Just to name a few
Minecraft
Fallout 3
Fallout NV
Skyrim
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Selstad✭✭✭✭Never understood why people claim this not to be an elder scrolls game. We were pretty much aware of the fact that it wouldn't be Skyrim, and that it would have to make sacrifices in order to be an MMO. No MMO can be compared in playstyle to a single player game. They are too different and a Single player game has a clear beginning and end to it, while an MMO is not as clear on that point.
I think that taken into consideration what does make an Elder Scrolls game, they've managed to capture the essence and the read thread of it. Good story line, big world, open for exploration, interesting combat system and good graphics. It's very much in the essence an Elder scrolls game. What it's NOT is a direct sequel to Skyrim. Yet that is what most people - even the reviewers - seems to compare from.
Also how some manages to call this a WoW clone is beyond my comprehension. WoW isn't even reaching up to the boot straps of ESO in most terms. What WoW is these days is a fancy name and a used-to-be good game company attached to it. What makes WoW these days aren't as much the game - good as it used to be - but the legion of fans that defend every thing about it as it was the holy grail of MMO. Sadly, WoW could have been that, but it failed hard and fell hard with Cataclysm and My Little Panda.4 -
roflcopter✭✭✭FrauPerchta wrote: »Sandbox/Open world games can do well. Just to name a few
Minecraft
Fallout 3
Fallout NV
Skyrim
GTA 4
Minecraft is the only MMO in that list which I think the prior poster was talking about.
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LadyChaos✭✭✭✭FrauPerchta wrote: »Sandbox/Open world games can do well. Just to name a few
Minecraft
Fallout 3
Fallout NV
Skyrim
GTA 4
None MMO
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But not as MMOs. They're designed around a single-player experience.FrauPerchta wrote: »Sandbox/Open world games can do well. Just to name a few1 -
Greydog✭✭✭✭Nobody mentioned SWG ...In my mind it's probably the best attempt at a sandbox mmo ever. It failed, but certainly not because it was a sandbox."I Plan on living forever ..so far so good"
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I am surprised you bother even playing an MMO, since they all bore you. No one is 'defending' anything, since I doubt anyone cares whether you play it or not. You are not that important.2
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Mercurio✭✭✭A single player sandbox is not the same thing as a sandbox MMO. One type doesn't work in the other genre.0 -
RKLimes✭✭WOW. It amazes me how some people defend this game like it is the Mother Teresa of games.
Mother Teresa was evil, and people love to defend her. So if you don't like the game, maybe you picked the right analogy, and it shouldn't surprise you.
Edited by RKLimes on April 25, 2014 11:36PM2 -
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All single player or very limited multiplayer gamens.FrauPerchta wrote: »Sandbox/Open world games can do well. Just to name a few
Minecraft
Fallout 3
Fallout NV
Skyrim
GTA 4
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greylox✭✭✭✭✭It's a balance that I think they got right...Mortal online was inept, I'm glad it wasn't like that. I'm sure they'll add housing and more sandboxy things over time.Edited by greylox on April 25, 2014 11:53PMPC EU
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greylox✭✭✭✭✭It amazes me people who hate on the game are here. If I didn't like something, I'd forget about it. I love all the elder scrolls games and have played them all since Arena back in the nineties on *** pc's, but also like this.Edited by greylox on April 25, 2014 11:56PMPC EU
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Lalai✭✭✭✭I'd like to see a sandbox MMO, but I really don't think it'd do well. Sometimes I think it would, and then zone chat makes it apparent that tons of the people currently playing MMOs need hand holding, which is what a theme park is designed to do. The number of times I see "I'm underleveled and I have no more quests" and "what do I do?" type posts or comments both in game and on the forums are kinda insane. People seem to need guidance now that guidance has been introduced, and those who like finding things, setting out and exploring and all that seem to be a niche group.Fisher extraordinaire!
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greylox✭✭✭✭✭I think exploring in this game can be really rewarding, especially in cyrodiil because of how open it feels. The pve areas definitely have more of a themepark feel to them.PC EU
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Trilo✭
Well look at how many people defend this. The devs most likely will listen to them and not us who are disappointed. So there.4 -
Lalai✭✭✭✭Well look at how many people defend this. The devs most likely will listen to them and not us who are disappointed. So there.
People are stating their opinion. Some people like the game as is, why would they want it to change? Doesn't make them fanboys (hate that word), they're just trying to make the game fun for them, same as you're doing. You're just name-calling them because they disagree, is what it really comes down to.Fisher extraordinaire!
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greylox✭✭✭✭✭Don't get me wrong, there is clearly things to fix, I don't go around singing it's praises all the time. But in relation to your gripe, I'm disagreeing, besides, Thieves guild will be in soon™PC EU
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{Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
{Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
*{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
{Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
{Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
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