You won't ban bots, but you'll ban someone for doing Ondil?

Noswell

SeñorCinco wrote: »

Noswell wrote: »

You may also find it interesting that while profane insults are censored in posts, one can see what they are when quoting them.

No more interesting than editing a post without actually editing it to bypass the censor.

How do you think people normally respond to lewd name calling? You were being a *** and I meant every letter of it.


... just a side note.

I was trying to be funny, sorry if that wasn't clear.

Elsonso

I am going to guess that the exploit in Ondil has been quietly fixed. Anyone want to go in there and try it and report back?

Mange

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi folks,

We are looking at addressing the concerns expressed in this thread and others about public dungeon boss farming, from the development side. The act of manually farming these bosses, while possibly not very courteous of others who are trying to have a shot at the content too, is not against our Terms of Service. (Purposefully griefing is another story, entirely.) That said, there are some very valid concerns here, and we are looking at ways we can improve upon how public dungeons and the bosses in them work.

If we make any changes to public dungeons and bosses, we'll call them out in patch notes.

Their excuse for not banning players that sit at a boss spawn 24/7 and farm the bosses in public dungeons.

I have screen shots of the discussion between @Fuzzy111 and the support site, but I am assuming if I post that here I would be banned myself so you'll have to ask for it privately.

gladen5rwb17_ESO

To those who are accusing the person of being guilty. You were told the circumstances by the OP. It is clearly apparent by the manner and tone in which the OP was writing and the follow up post by the accused friend that it is highly likely the player was caught up in the suspension and banning sweep.

The rudeness and ignorance on this forum is getting out of hand. We the players are going through very difficult times with this new game company who have made mistakes, shocking mistakes that will for quite some time hurt them.

I was suspended, I know some who were banned and we all appealed. The system in place for catching those who were genuinely duping or exploiting is flawed beyond belief. Instead of checking account data prior to ban or suspension, a general sweep is done instead.

In the case of the accused he was in a place that is being monitored. Why? Since when is it an exploit to play the game. One friend I have was banned due to standing around a boss waiting to get a hit on the boss target for his achievement. Someone reported him simply for not using /say "I am not a bot".

The absurdity of all this is beyond amusing.

Hakuichi

gladen5rwb17_ESO wrote: »

To those who are accusing the person of being guilty. You were told the circumstances by the OP. It is clearly apparent by the manner and tone in which the OP was writing and the follow up post by the accused friend that it is highly likely the player was caught up in the suspension and banning sweep.

The rudeness and ignorance on this forum is getting out of hand. We the players are going through very difficult times with this new game company who have made mistakes, shocking mistakes that will for quite some time hurt them.

I was suspended, I know some who were banned and we all appealed. The system in place for catching those who were genuinely duping or exploiting is flawed beyond belief. Instead of checking account data prior to ban or suspension, a general sweep is done instead.

In the case of the accused he was in a place that is being monitored. Why? Since when is it an exploit to play the game. One friend I have was banned due to standing around a boss waiting to get a hit on the boss target for his achievement. Someone reported him simply for not using /say "I am not a bot".

The absurdity of all this is beyond amusing.

Perhaps you did not read the post. He was found guilty of grand soul gem exploit by the devs. Even though i highly doubt they told him why he was banned as that would be a leak of their security. In all seriousness this is prolly someone trying to derail the game.

Your hate for ESO to not even to understand that he was already told what he did (doubt it still). And put the blame on the team instead is amusing to me.

Noswell

Noswell wrote: »

That's true, but given that they just admitted to mistakenly banning hundreds of players, it seems like it might be in their best interests to at least let players know what they've been accused of in a general sense.

Hakuichi wrote: »

No it is never in their best interest. The game is not a democracy.

I'm not arguing that it's within their rights. I'm saying that it's a tradeoff of rights versus goodwill. Regardless of whether the player is actually guilty or one of the mistakenly banned, it seems like people get more upset when they or their friends get banned with no reason.

Hakuichi

Noswell wrote: »

Noswell wrote: »

That's true, but given that they just admitted to mistakenly banning hundreds of players, it seems like it might be in their best interests to at least let players know what they've been accused of in a general sense.

Hakuichi wrote: »

No it is never in their best interest. The game is not a democracy.

I'm not arguing that it's within their rights. I'm saying that it's a tradeoff of rights versus goodwill. Regardless of whether the player is actually guilty or one of the mistakenly banned, it seems like people get more upset when they or their friends get banned with no reason.

The game against cheaters is a cat and mouse game, the second you reveal what cheating you caught them with is the second they let everyone know what not to do, and what is still viable cheating.

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO

People have posted the mails they got about being banned and they do indeed never mention a reason why... If you "know" why you got banned even if they aren't telling you why then something is rather rotten in the state of Denmark...

Even if you suspect why you got banned it shows that you are unsure if what you were doing was kosher. When in doubt... don't do it...

If you think "this could be an exploit...." then for the love of god don't abuse it, just report it that you think you found an exploit.

If the OP's friend got banned over doing the same dungeon over and over, well then does indeed suck... but if he did it "cause the loot is uber in there, all trash drops Grand Soul Gems... I'mma go stock up"... well... then it's debateble

Mange

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

People have posted the mails they got about being banned and they do indeed never mention a reason why... If you "know" why you got banned even if they aren't telling you why then something is rather rotten in the state of Denmark...

Even if you suspect why you got banned it shows that you are unsure if what you were doing was kosher. When in doubt... don't do it...

If you think "this could be an exploit...." then for the love of god don't abuse it, just report it that you think you found an exploit.

If the OP's friend got banned over doing the same dungeon over and over, well then does indeed suck... but if he did it "cause the loot is uber in there, all trash drops Grand Soul Gems... I'mma go stock up"... well... then it's debateble

Even if you say it's "debateable", nowhere would someone thinking from a logical point of view deem that permanent ban worthy. There still isn't any notifcation outside of this topic that farming Ondil is a bannable offense. I guess you just have ot play russian roulette with public dungeons on here.

Noswell

It says in the OP that they were in touch with customer service and that's what they told him.

Hakuichi

Mange wrote: »

stefaan.de.wasch1b16_ESO wrote: »

People have posted the mails they got about being banned and they do indeed never mention a reason why... If you "know" why you got banned even if they aren't telling you why then something is rather rotten in the state of Denmark...

Even if you suspect why you got banned it shows that you are unsure if what you were doing was kosher. When in doubt... don't do it...

If you think "this could be an exploit...." then for the love of god don't abuse it, just report it that you think you found an exploit.

If the OP's friend got banned over doing the same dungeon over and over, well then does indeed suck... but if he did it "cause the loot is uber in there, all trash drops Grand Soul Gems... I'mma go stock up"... well... then it's debateble

Even if you say it's "debateable", nowhere would someone thinking from a logical point of view deem that permanent ban worthy. There still isn't any notifcation outside of this topic that farming Ondil is a bannable offense. I guess you just have ot play russian roulette with public dungeons on here.

What you are missing here, is you think we accept your story. We don't.

ZOS_TristanK

Hello, all. This thread has been closed as discussing disciplinary action on the forums is against our Code of Conduct. The forums is not the appropriate place to appeal in-game actions. Instead, we encourage players to please refer to the instructions detailed here if they wish to appeal a ban. Thank you for your cooperation.