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Two Handers, Dual Wielding, Mages, and Rangers are OP
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I stat for how I like to play. I have a summoner that wears leather and uses a bow. I use pets, armor, mage ultima skill. The other two are bow skills. I work my armor, jewelry, and weapons in how I want to set up. I don't follow cookie cutters or player rules to which is the best stat for this or that character.
I think she is pretty good and sound when playing. But like I said I stat to How I play, my style...I played a Huntard in WoW way before they fixed them and then everyone cried NERF them after they were the laughing stock of the game. I played my Huntard my way..the way I play.
Every MMO someone cries this is too OP. This game makes it wear the player can make or break a character. It is all about how you wish to play and stack your stats on your character.
-.- Or I am just sick of people saying this or that is OP every time someone doesn't like how they got their fanny handed to them.4 -
Nexxa✭Gasp! DPS centric specs outdamage more tanky specs. News at 11!Speaking the truth is best done by sadists... because it will hurt someone.3
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Tweek✭✭✭thegamekittenub17_ESO wrote: »I stat for how I like to play. I have a summoner that wears leather and uses a bow. I use pets, armor, mage ultima skill. The other two are bow skills. I work my armor, jewelry, and weapons in how I want to set up. I don't follow cookie cutters or player rules to which is the best stat for this or that character.
I think she is pretty good and sound when playing. But like I said I stat to How I play, my style...I played a Huntard in WoW way before they fixed them and then everyone cried NERF them after they were the laughing stock of the game. I played my Huntard my way..the way I play.
Every MMO someone cries this is too OP. This game makes it wear the player can make or break a character. It is all about how you wish to play and stack your stats on your character.
-.- Or I am just sick of people saying this or that is OP every time someone doesn't like how they got their fanny handed to them.
This.
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Tweek✭✭✭crimsonBZD wrote: »So what I'm hearing is that
Mages are OP
Tanks are OP
any sort of Long Range is OP
Healers are OP
Maybe we just want to ask for an increase of difficulty in the game if everything is OP.
Honestly I only made this because I'm sick of reading thread with people complain about how [fill in the blank skill/class] is OP.....honestly I thikn this game is perfectly balanced out. I haven't had any issues.
The way you guys talk/act shield bash kills instantly. I use it and I use magic and I have other alts as well....I've played a few builds....believe me shield bash is NOT op at all. 1H needs to have more def advantage....all things considered anyone could pick the tree up and use it and try it for themselves anyway. Stop whining and move on.
If you couldn't tell this was mostly sarcastic, my complaints about healers being OP should have given it away.
Don't nerf anything, everyone should L2P.....considering there isn't an OP class and EVERYONE can take EVERY skill tree.....Edited by Tweek on April 21, 2014 11:42PM0 -
Tweek✭✭✭
Well you got me......guess that's my cue to leave.
Edited by Tweek on April 21, 2014 11:55PM0 -
Wreaken✭✭✭In my personal opinion from what I have observed so far in game....these players can destroy mobs easily. I see two handed specs soloing final group dungeons all the time with no problem. They hit way to hard and often and should be nerfed.
Also rangers do WAY to much damage and they can snare you for far to long imo they're way OP and need to be nerfed. This is broken.
Mages last but not least are the worst....they do way to much AoE damage and can destroy large zergs and large groups of mobs well above their level by spamming their AoE spells. They're way to OP.
EDIT: ALSO One handed needs to be able to do MUCH more DPS, or be able to protect for more damage. I think shield protection should be increased by at least x3.
The sad thing is, it is poor vague posts like this that get knee jerk reaction nerfs that end up driving people away.
Let us hope the Devs in this game are smarter then the average WoW player.
Taemek Frozenberg, Leader of <Epoch Gaming>
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So many trolls polluting this thread. Everyone who is sincere and honest with themselves would notice and admit that 2H weapons and sorcerers AoEs indeed allow them to mow through groups of mobs in an instant. In addition, the resource consumption is so little, they barely need to stop in between.
OP is playing a sorcerer himself, and he is honest enough to admit it. Yet trolls flock and mock... Yet more people for my ignore list.
I agree with 2H and sorcerer needing a damage output nerf. But I thought that the other weaponsets are quite good where they are.2 -
blackwolf7✭✭✭Lol. Funny post. Everything is op except 1hand sword and shield.
Duhhh!! Ofcourse they do they are called dps weapons because well, theyre supposed to do dmg. You cant expect 1hand sword and shield to deal the same or near the same dmg as these weapons because sns gives you more survivability.
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EdonilTebaun✭✭Funny ... my sword/shield DK seems to manage to rip through mobs without too much trouble.0
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Asuna_Meow✭✭✭
You say you play a sorc... yet you keep pushing one handed and shield... so that just tells me you play with shield and one handed and just want to complain that others with actual dps weapons are killing things faster then you -.-Meow0 -
nez✭✭✭molag bal should be nerfed too, he's spamming with dark anchors way too often.Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na Batmaaaan0 -
Carnage2K4✭✭✭✭But seriously it's like sooooo OPI'm maxed bro.
IMO every DPS spec is OP.
If I ever had any respect for your opinion (the base respect everyone gets to start out with) you completely lost it all with these pre-pubescent responses...
Don't you have a Miley Cyrus concert to attend?Edited by Carnage2K4 on April 25, 2014 6:11AMHuman Infant Connoisseur0 -
Firmament✭✭I think they should rethink about shields. In fact work it out, since it is just crazy and makes no sense a dps Shield. I Die more from shield bashing than from all mentioned above. But i cannot stop laughing when I get shield bashing spam. It is hilarious. Maybe that is why I die. because I just look at the screen like WTF is happening? Is that serious?
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Tweek✭✭✭I think they should rethink about shields. In fact work it out, since it is just crazy and makes no sense a dps Shield. I Die more from shield bashing than from all mentioned above. But i cannot stop laughing when I get shield bashing spam. It is hilarious. Maybe that is why I die. because I just look at the screen like WTF is happening? Is that serious?
I have never died from a shield bash cause I just counter it. When your shield is up you move much slower.....why fight a tank up close? imo
Also it isn't really dps, but in my opinion one handed needs something to do damage. I say if the shield bash is nerfed add a new stamina perk that hits for at least half of what the two hander perks hit for(that would be fair). Also there needs to be a massive defense increase to the one handed tree line. I would say x2 the defense. Also take away any critical hit chance from shield bashing.
People who don't use one handed don't realize there's no solid stamina skills that do any damage at all.0 -
Cleofis✭kevjon74_ESO wrote: »If you're using one-handed with shield, then you should be relying heavily on shield bash. That's the sword and board's bread-and-butter attack, and is rightfully devastating.
This is why I'm so bored of my sword and board character. It's basically just shield bash spam, it requires no effort at all.
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Tweek✭✭✭Asuna_Meow wrote: »
You say you play a sorc... yet you keep pushing one handed and shield... so that just tells me you play with shield and one handed and just want to complain that others with actual dps weapons are killing things faster then you -.-
This is more of a damage based mmo, defensive skills(mostly due to the over charge rule) aren't very effective in combat. As such you need to be able to dish out damage. I think that's why each tree has something to do this. Too many people say shield bashing should be nerfed when it is the main skill one handed has to use. All skills have their advantages and disadvantages. Two handed beats one handed in a duel if the two hander has their skills setup correctly. imo
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Tweek✭✭✭kevjon74_ESO wrote: »If you're using one-handed with shield, then you should be relying heavily on shield bash. That's the sword and board's bread-and-butter attack, and is rightfully devastating.
This is why I'm so bored of my sword and board character. It's basically just shield bash spam, it requires no effort at all.
Neither does clicking the mouse over and over to slash and do 50%+ more damage a slash ala two hander with passives not to mention the boost from the base stats being higher to begin with. imo
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Phyrdrin✭✭✭✭The awkward moment when you can't decide whether it's sarcasm or not. Hopefully it is. You never know tho, looking around the forums.
This ^ Very well said.
Look out, here come the damsels in distress. It's not OP just because you can't beat it in PvP or do as well. Look at your class; look at your build; consider your role in a group; improve it; tweek it. Those people probably did and that is why they are doing so well. Everyone will always have conflicting opinions, but I believe that this game is very balanced. Aside from RIFT and GW2, it's probably one of the most balanced games I've seen to date.
"Surprise me. Say something intelligent."0 -
Tweek✭✭✭The awkward moment when you can't decide whether it's sarcasm or not. Hopefully it is. You never know tho, looking around the forums.
This ^ Very well said.
Look out, here come the damsels in distress. It's not OP just because you can't beat it in PvP or do as well. Look at your class; look at your build; consider your role in a group; improve it; tweek it. Those people probably did and that is why they are doing so well. Everyone will always have conflicting opinions, but I believe that this game is very balanced. Aside from RIFT and GW2, it's probably one of the most balanced games I've seen to date.
I do too, as I only made this thread because there are alot of people complaining about shield bash for some reason. I think it's because it stuns them......just don't get close to a tank in a fight like in every other mmo.
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i agree on everything but the bow users.... i think your opinion there stems from you being a bad melee player who got kitted in a pvp a few times lol0
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Tweek✭✭✭xryanvb16_ESO wrote: »i agree on everything but the bow users.... i think your opinion there stems from you being a bad melee player who got kitted in a pvp a few times lol
I haven't died in PvP yet lol......only made this thread cause I see too many people complaining about shield bashing. I admit it is a little OP bt there's no need to nerf it to the extreme....every combat tree has an OP ability. I was bringing up two hander because of their base damage. If you combine it with the passives....they can hit for twice what my bash hits for with a power attack.....without the use of stamina.0 -
Gigglesnort✭✭✭Yea, When I run a dungeon I want someone who is nerfed and under power, we all know we don't want anyone doing large amounts of damage on mobs in dungeons and on bosses. Maybe he is only talking pvp, that is usually were the nerf talks start, someone getting spanked and can adjust or use strategy with a group to take out a dominant playerOIIIIIIIO
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Tweek✭✭✭Also want to add that two handers are also great for AoE.....which is where one handed fails.....there isn't anything at all for AoE it is all for duels, and I think the people complaining were speced in AoE fighting a one hander in a 1v1...and lost, which shouldn't be a surprise.0
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Tweek✭✭✭How to take out a tank(shield basher).......kill it with a two or more players with flanks while it moves slow......you move so slow with your shield up it amazes me that any player can even be hit by a shield bash.....why stand close to a one handed player? All the other trees other than dual wielding offer a bit of range, and I believe that's what it's there for.0
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