Does anyone else find that they are falling behind? (read first)

mithrendiel

No

I am in my twenties, and out-leveling the content pretty quickly. I think the trick is to make sure you miss no quests in a zone. You do this by looking at the map and looking for any areas that appear they might have something there (a ruin, a town, a few odd dots that could be anything), then travel there and you will most likely find a quest. At the end of your time in a zone, there should be no part of the map unexplored. You can also use the various skyshard and lore book maps to help encourage your exploration. Most places there are skyshards also have quests.

And do all public dungeons - they always have a skyshard and generally a quest too.

lynix112

Yes

lehran wrote: »

If you're sneaking past mobs instead of fighting them, that could be a very large part of why you are finding yourself underleveled. At my current level (30) I find killing a single mob at my level gives me around 250 xp (just a normal mob, mind. the ranked/boss mobs give more usually), and the quest reward might only give me a paltry 2000. If I kill something like 40 mobs on the quest though, that 2000 xp suddenly becomes 12000 xp, which is something like 25% of a level.

Where do you people pull these arbitrary numbers? You must be fighting different mobs then me because the ones I kill give about 100XP - 150XP so killing mobs really doesn't give that much XP. Also at the time of this post I was killing level 28 mobs and I'm still 24 (because I've been so annoyed by this I cant play anymore)

And as for quests, if you are getting 2k then... Well tbh you are getting much much much more then me from quests

scneedl_ESO

No

I cringe with each ding recently. I hit 40 last night and I'm only about half done with Alik'r. It seems the higher level I get the faster I level. I'd give anything for an xp slider so I could level lock

falsfire

No

I found by completing every single thing in a zone I'm right on par for the next zone. But I agree, you shouldn't have to do absolutely everything, I'd think a reasonable percentage would be to complete 85-90% of the content in a zone in order to ding the appropriate level for the next zone.

Mordwyr

No

I'm almost 32 and maybe 1 lvl behind quests, sometimes almost at even, but I consider it to be good, because it gives me a more challenge with the game. I can still easily take out mob groups of three, even if they're 2 levels above me. The q items I get are most of the times 1 lvl above me.

I've done all the quests in previous areas and solo dungeons as well. I've collected all the skyshards too. What I've missed is 4-man dungeons and pvp, so no exp from them. I also use intimidate/persuade options and I sneak a lot, so I probably miss small amounts of exp points along the way, but most likely not much.

I could've answered yes, but I don't consider falling behind, since I'm able to finish the q's without any problems. I found that in early levels it was a bit harder to do q's, but maybe my learning curve is going up, since after approx lvl 12 I've had very little tough time with leveling. For example, I finished Grahtwood at lvl 23 and had no troubles when starting Greenshade.

MKLS

No

For those that have answered "Yes" - have they found all the sky shards and achieved the quest accomplishment for each area they have finished (even using a wiki to finish the sky shards if necessary as at least that will show areas they may have missed)

In my experience it is possible to just follow the main quest and blast through the area which is great for PVP'ers, or group players who want to get their experience in other ways but may cause this problem for other players as there are so many extra quests and bosses etc that only appear when you've read the piece of paper lying on the ground or spoken to a random NPC.

Personally I love this system as I read and talk to every thing - but it may be a new approach to some players leading them to believe that the extra quests are not ingame.

lynix112

Yes

MKLS wrote: »

For those that have answered "Yes" - have they found all the sky shards and achieved the quest accomplishment for each area they have finished (even using a wiki to finish the sky shards if necessary as at least that will show areas they may have missed)

In my experience it is possible to just follow the main quest and blast through the area which is great for PVP'ers, or group players who want to get their experience in other ways but may cause this problem for other players as there are so many extra quests and bosses etc that only appear when you've read the piece of paper lying on the ground or spoken to a random NPC.

Personally I love this system as I read and talk to every thing - but it may be a new approach to some players leading them to believe that the extra quests are not ingame.

Are you saying there are completely hidden quests on completely random NPCs that are not even of interest? Do they have the quest mark on them at all? Because if not that is a *** terrible design choice on the devs part. Not everyone enjoys talking to every single NPC. Every NPC I talk to, I talk to because they are at least of some interest to me whether that interest is simply because they are a vendor or they are a quest giver. I have played every TES game and I always play the same way, quests should feel natural not like Where's Wally.

Just so you do know, Skyshards do not grant experience at least not for me. If you are getting XP from the them then I dare say I'm further bugged then I thought.

Bliss_d

No

Since i finished the starting area, i'm outleveling the current zone i'm in by at least 3 levels since the beginning.

holmen_89b16_ESO

No

Complete all group dungeons and complete the quest achievement in every zone. That way you know you have completed lik 99% of the quests. I am always a few levels higher than the monsters which is not very fun either. Steamrolling gets dull after a while.

Manchin

No

Seems to me a bit silly on a mmo, to ask "if you are falling behind" and the same goes for the "end game-people". This game has been out for about a week or so....if it has alot of buggs...There are two obvious reasons..pressure from the owners to start earning...(like the Conan mmo)...and the "beta-testers" did NOT have time or cared to test the questlines, and rather took the oppertunity to test "specs" etc. I think testing the questline should be part of both early access and beta. as the ones who PAYS for the product, do not have the same patience... Early accsess people without the "masses" of a mmo, should not complain when people join "their" game, and most important..farming some boss to gain easy gear and exp, destroys the game for everyone...even if it is conducted by your guild. .
I mean half the threads are about people who can not logg into the game....then comes around the "hardcore-lvling-farming"-people complaining about content?....in end "if you are falling behind" wtf does that even mean...people been FARMING for months/years in other mmos..like WoW..just to get a pet or more likely a pluss 1 advantage item...etc....To the developers..introduce some "uber" item which will give the "hardcores" an advantage..it is all they want. They still need people and bosses to kill in the end...PvP/PvE..

Ezrith

No

I am also a completionist - I MUST have all those achievements before I leave a zone, I need to check all nooks and crannies.

But to answer the poll, NO, my level is almost always on par with the mobs around me, sometimes I am 1 under only. Once I found out I was 2 levels below but it was because I missed some quests and I backtracked and found them. I have to tip my hat at how good the progression in levels is done by this game.

I'm not a farmer, I still have to start pvp, I do my dungeons only once, pure pve so far. If I am falling behind it's not for the level of the content but compared to my friends who level so fast! I have no idea how they do it.

It seems many people who replied don't understand the OP question... about mobs vs player level not player vs player guys and gals!

MKLS

No

Just so you do know, Skyshards do not grant experience at least not for me. If you are getting XP from the them then I dare say I'm further bugged then I thought.

I didn't mean to suggest that they granted experience - as you point out they don't.

My point was that if you have only found about 50% of the skyshards in an area there is a high chance you have missed content - getting all of them when you have naturally finished the area I find is a good way to check I haven't missed anything before moving on to the next area.

Edit: Btw I'm also finding my level and the mob level very close - I am normally about the same or one level or more above the mobs in case that was also not clear in my response.

MKLS

No

Are you saying there are completely hidden quests on completely random NPCs that are not even of interest? Do they have the quest mark on them at all? Because if not that is a *** terrible design choice on the devs part. Not everyone enjoys talking to every single NPC. Every NPC I talk to, I talk to because they are at least of some interest to me whether that interest is simply because they are a vendor or they are a quest giver. I have played every TES game and I always play the same way, quests should feel natural not like Where's Wally.

All I can respond to that is that I like the quest design so it comes down to what you enjoy - as you explore more icons appear on your map - so one persons map may appear "done" ie all icons white - but have less icons on it than another person who has completed all the dungeons and killed all the bosses.

Also you do get experience from exploring and discovering places anyway

Twicebit

No

Explore every nook and cranny, sometimes you stumble upon a hidden chest, quest or lore book. All the extra exploring has kept me on pace with each zone. I also went ahead and did the starting zone, which took me from level 3 to 7.

Streega

No

I'm always equal or 1-2 lvl higher then mobs, but I do every quest, visit every location, collect skyshards and search every house for books. I also do a "coast-run" to collect nodes and chests. Besides, I gather XP from crafting.

Isdel

I made the mistake of exploring Cyrodiil at level 11 and coming back at level 14. I do every quest, explore everything and I am still overlevelled. I am level 25 now and haven't done half the quests in Grahtwood yet. If anything, levelling is too fast. :P

Medwin

No

I've been doing everything, public dungeons, dungeons, quests, world bosses, dark anchors, and pretty much everything I can find. Currently I'm on quests with level 28 mobs and I'm level 31, I may have also explored more since I went out and got skyshards in Cyrodiil and also got Vampirism.

dnotecmb16_ESO

No

Didn't read the whole thread, but the OP has lots of black icons on their maps, that is a lot of missing experience, not to mention BC is still black so I assume you didn't do the other two either, that in itself is a whole level.

Caillronb14_ESO

Yes

I am level 34 fighting level 38's, and I explore everything that can be explored while trying to do every dungeon / world dungeon I come across as well as every world boss / anchor, and I still seem to be behind in levels to the next region I am entering. The only thing I haven't been able to do are the dungeon quests as none of them have worked for any of my groups. I think I do every quest in a zone before I leave so I don't know why I have fallen so far behind unless dungeon quests just provide that much XP in which case Zenimax needs to fix them asap.

PurpleMango0416

No

Not experiencing this here. I run minimal dungeons and complete entire zones. Here is what I do:

1. Complete all dungeons once
2. Complete all solo/public dungeons - kill the end boss a couple of times for gems
3. Loot whatever herbs/cloth I come across
4. Complete all chain events once
5. Complete all world bosses once
6. Complete all quests and side quests
7. Kill as much as I can while I am doing a quest
8. Craft for clothing and create for alchemy
9. Explorer every corner of a zone
10. Prosper

Seriously, though, I'm always a lvl or two higher than the mobs I'm fighting against at the highest level part of each zone when I'm done. Don't forget chains and above-ground world bosses. They give you a hefty chunk of exp.

huytorwb17_ESO

Yes

Considering most of my Guild members are veteran rank 4-5 already and I am only level 20, yes I am falling behind due to the fact that I have a full time job that I have to attend to...
=(

fantom

No

No, not at all. Leveling in this game is simple, but if you try to treat it like WoW you're going to have a bad time.

TESO IS NOT WOW. You will NOT get handhold-y breadcrumb quests leading you on a linear journey through every quest and point of experience on the map. That is 100% intentional and thank god ZOS designed the game this way. You MUST explore the zones. Use a picture of a completed map (there are tons on the internet) if you need help, just go to each POI and do everything except the skull and bones bosses (unless you have a group).

Here's a simple checklist to prevent you from being underleveled. Consult it whenever you leave a zone.

1) Have I gotten the achievement for doing X quests in this zone?

2) Have I gotten the achievement for exploring all the caves in this zone?

3) Have I gotten the achievement for collecting all 16 skyshards in this zone?

It's as simple as checking off 1-2-3.

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If you STILL somehow managed to screw up leveling, go to Cyrodiil. Choose a home campaign or guest on a campaign where your faction is dominating the population bars and the other 2 alliances have minimal population (every alliance has one). Your alliance will have control of almost every keep (and thus will be able to teleport everywhere) and you will almost never see enemy players.

Cyrodiil has 46 skyshards and 50 PVE quests that are VERY simple to complete. Oh and did I mention that the quests reset daily and the reward scales to your level? Just find the quest hubs (there are 5 with 10 quests at each) and do them all. You will get multiple levels for each clear, especially when you get exploration experience while picking up all the skyshards.

nijino

No

My friend plays with me and my girlfriend, and he often skips lore and rushes from quest mob to quest mob, he doesnt explore, he doesnt do much side questing and random grinding- just not enjoying the beautiful world and finding that node or random cave off somewhere. We tried to follow him and keep up, and became vastly out-leveled by the mobs. So my girlfriend and I just played on our own, and quickly realized that if you just enjoy the game and farm a little, explore, do side quests, find events, you wont get behind.

TLDR: PLAY THE GAME THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED

Wolfshead

No

I have still not done a dungeon mean a 4 man group and i still same lvl as mods are in zone im do quest in it sound more like OP have not done everything in zones you do know you get exp from explore everything in zone right which mean you should max 1 lvl below the zones mobs just run around do quest and dungeon will not help you lvl you need to explore also. When i enter Grahtwood the was people whine in zone channel that mobs was to high the person was lvl 10 which mean he have basic skip last part of Auridon just for you get a quest from fight club and tell you to go to Grahtwood dont mean you can you should also use your head a little

shinkicker444rwb17_ESO

No

If anything I'm way over leveled, in Reapers March, lvl 45, and I've done about half the zone and all the quests are level 40.

MintyBadger

No

Nope. So far I have done everyquest I have found, completed every icon on the map and When I hit Malabal Tor I had already outleveled for the whole area! (I havent even touched PVP or the group dungeons.)

warlock41

Yes

I'm now level 15 and doing quests in a level 16-20 area ! Maybe I have missed some quests before but its a new game im learning,I can handle higher level mobs 3-4 at a time. I play Wizard . The progress however is slow but i think that how the game was designed so you can learn the lore in depth.

reggielee

No

I more likely will outlevel quests in an area due to leveling pace

katfiveknivesub17_ESO

No

No because I'm doing much more than just questing in the zone. I'm taking my time, gathering mats, crafting, along with questing. I am enjoying my time here and the leveling is more of a result of that. By the time I move to an new area I'm more than ready for it.

Maotti

I was level 32 when i needed to go to Malabal Tor. Is that good or bad?