The ESO Craft Bag: A Convenience or a Gatekeeper to Enjoyable Gameplay?

Arunei

I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?

TaSheen

Arunei wrote: »

I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?

I don't think I've seen a poll like that so far. For myself, yes, I would still sub - the other stuff is worth it to me.

heaven13

katanagirl1 wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

Craft bag did not ship with the game.

Before ESO+ the game was designed for you to keep crafting mats in your bank. Just as it is now, with non eso+ accounts. So you are just playing this now as it was originally designed. (We also could not just summon a banker either.)

Since its inception eso+ has lost a lot of its value. The only real reason to keep it is the craft bag.

Glad to see someone else posted this. It would be toxic if it was part of the game and then pulled into eso+ as a paid feature.

Like others I have been happy to pay a sub for the craft bag for housing and crafting ease. It has been a great value for someone like me who spends so much time playing. I hope that the changes in store for us next year will allow me to continue to do so.

Same. The inventory issue has been a thing long before ESO+. To say the system was "designed" to sell the solution is a bit disingenuous since the solution was only added quite a bit after the fact. I do think, with the addition of so many new things that go into inventories, it would be welcome to add some additional slots for both characters and banks that were not paid but I certainly don't consider ESO+ to be "toxic".

I choose not to play without ESO+, mostly because I am a hoarder and can't resist picking things up (this is how I play literally every single game - in some you can no longer move if you pick up too much stuff, in some you just can't pick up anything else until you make space, etc). Because I know I don't like to play without the craft bag, I don't buy DLCs; there are some I own because they were free at one point, there are some I was gifted, but I don't buy them myself.

However, I have also played ESO+ without the sub and for a not-insignificant amount of time. There were changes I needed to make to my playstyle (turn off autoloot, sell stuff instead of decon it) but it was definitely manageable. I even made sure my bank was lower than the non-subscriber limit so I had space prior to not having a sub so I didn't have a conundrum with not being able to move stuff around as needed. There are things I'd consider way more anti-consumer than ESO+, for sure. (Changing skills that render paid items useless is definitely one of them.)

Tandor

TaSheen wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?

I don't think I've seen a poll like that so far. For myself, yes, I would still sub - the other stuff is worth it to me.

Me too, on both my accounts.

TaSheen

Tandor wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?

I don't think I've seen a poll like that so far. For myself, yes, I would still sub - the other stuff is worth it to me.

Me too, on both my accounts.

Well.... caveat: IF things don't change so much I just quit entirely next year....

Erickson9610

Arunei wrote: »

I'm kind of curious now, has anyone done a poll to see if people would still sub if the craft bag was removed from Plus and made base game?

I'd still sub, if only for the yearly allotment of Crowns and increased currency/experience gain. I've been subscribed for years now, so I don't really remember what it's like to have to keep trashing crafting materials...

Kyip

This might be more insightful as a poll.

AzuraFan

I wouldn't sub if the craft bag was removed. I'm not really into housing, so the increased housing slots don't matter to me. If my bank space was cut in half, I'm confident I could remove probably 80% of what I have stored there. I don't need the extra experience gain because I play my main 99.9% of the time, and I don't need to rush my companions to max level. As for the crowns, well, I'd just buy crowns on sale, if I needed them. I haven't spent my ESO+ crowns from my last renewal. As for DLCs, well, we're not getting any new chapters, and I've completed all the dungeon quests which is all I care about, so losing access to them wouldn't bother me.

When I tried playing for a couple of months without ESO+, it was the absence of the craft bag that made me resubscribe. I didn't notice the absence of any of the other benefits.

There was a discussion a while back about ESO+ when the Q4 DLC was given away. I said it devalued ESO+, but the majority of ESO+ subscribers in the thread said that they only subscribe for the craft bag and so they didn't care that ZOS was giving away the Q4 DLC. So maybe most would unsubscribe if the craft bag went away, or maybe if push came to shove, they'd stay for the other benefits.

How ESO+ is seen might change depending on how seasons are monetized. I'm not optimistic, though, that any or all of them will be included in ESO+, because chapters weren't until a year after release.

moderatelyfatman

The crafting bag was indispensible in my first year of gameplay.
Now, I have a few thousand mats in my crafting bag, storage chests in my house and storage toons. A combination of the occassional once off ESO+ subscription and ESO+ free weekends means I can get by without it.
My only concern would be if ZOS made withdrawals from the crafting bag also a requirement for ESO+.