Daily Endeavours: Complete TWO Heist Missions

Gabriel_H

ZOS ... why are you setting daily endeavours that require quest sharing?

moderatelyfatman

Gabriel_H wrote: »

ZOS ... why are you setting daily endeavours that require quest sharing?

I get it, finding someone else in the same instance is getting harder these days.

Gabriel_H

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

I get it, finding someone else in the same instance is getting harder these days.

It's just silly. It would be like: Harvest 10 nodes in the world ... while being in a group.

Potrimpo

I have more than one character for heist missions

moderatelyfatman

Gabriel_H wrote: »

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

I get it, finding someone else in the same instance is getting harder these days.

It's just silly. It would be like: Harvest 10 nodes in the world ... while being in a group.

Please stop giving ZOS more ideas.

Gabriel_H

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

I get it, finding someone else in the same instance is getting harder these days.

It's just silly. It would be like: Harvest 10 nodes in the world ... while being in a group.

Please stop giving ZOS more ideas.

Sell 30 items to merchants ... who have Y and U in their names.

moderatelyfatman

Stay logged in for more than 30 mins, while in your home.

Grizzbeorn

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

Stay logged in for more than 30 mins, while in your home.

On same day: Place 750 Furnishings

Monte_Cristo

Catch 5 different rare fish in alphabetical order.

Rowjoh

Using an an unlevelled mount, collect any survey from Blackwood.

Tandor

There's no doubt that over the last week or two the numerical requirements for daily endeavours have increased significantly. As an example, it was always "sell 20 items to merchants", today it's "sell 30 items to merchants". I'm increasingly not bothering with daily endeavours, and only very rarely do the weekly ones which have also been inflated. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean I'm spending more time actually playing the game, I'm just spending less time on ESO.

Ilumia

I yearn to be positive and post "this-eso-thing-is-great" in the forum posts, but there are so many changes to talk about that are for the worse
Please reign in the annoying endeavors, and stop trying to push people to content so hard. Some people will look at endeavors and not be bothered, others will just be dissatisfied about the asks. Two heists is not something that (almost) anyone would normally be doing.

Calastir

The intent and message is clear; "Buy Crown Crates"

Lykeion

ZOS is extending the time it takes to complete the endeavor, and it looks like for most of them they are just doubling the numbers without a thought. I don't want there to be a day when I need to complete 2 trials for 10 endeavor tokens

The_Boggart

Sell merchants 30 water is easy, kill 40 enemies whilst doing weekly 100 items is doable in craglorn. Imperial city quest doable but too many AP points required in cyrodil daily

Syldras

I'm not sure whether they even pay attention to the specific task required for the endeavour. I think they just increased numbers without checking whether it makes sense or not.

Tandor

The_Boggart wrote: »

Sell merchants 30 water is easy, kill 40 enemies whilst doing weekly 100 items is doable in craglorn. Imperial city quest doable but too many AP points required in cyrodil daily

It's 100 enemies in today's daily endeavours.

Tommy_The_Gun

Endeavours in general had gotten way too exaggerated lately. Kill 100 enemies for instance... while we used to have kill 200 enemies as a weekly endeavour...

Tandor

If they are going to persist with some high tallies, it might be an idea not to have them on days when the servers are down for scheduled maintenance.

VindictiveRidge

Rowjoh wrote: »

Using an an unlevelled mount, collect any survey from Blackwood.

What sort of Sheogorath-inspired sadistic monster ARE YOU?!

Gabriel_H

Ilumia wrote: »

I yearn to be positive and post "this-eso-thing-is-great" in the forum posts, but there are so many changes to talk about that are for the worse
Please reign in the annoying endeavors, and stop trying to push people to content so hard. Some people will look at endeavors and not be bothered, others will just be dissatisfied about the asks. Two heists is not something that (almost) anyone would normally be doing.

If it was one heist I'd have slapped on my stealth setup and happily done it, as it was it was easier to just jump into IC and spend 30 seconds killing some mobs for 100 Tel Var and then let myself get killed to get back to the exit.

o_Primate_o

Gabriel_H wrote: »

ZOS ... why are you setting daily endeavours that require quest sharing?

You can do multiple heists on one toon in one day.

you are right. i was thinking of the Kari's thieving guests.

Gabriel_H

o_Primate_o wrote: »

You can do multiple heists on one toon in one day.

Not without quest sharing.

Sarannah

The entire daily endeavour choices this week have been bad, many were way too time-consuming to complete. Not happy with this!

moderatelyfatman

Developer Month Endeavor: Fix one bug.

Syldras

Sarannah wrote: »

The entire daily endeavour choices this week have been bad, many were way too time-consuming to complete. Not happy with this!

It's obvious they want players to stay logged in longer. I'm wondering if it works? Because in my case, I only have limited time to play anyway and demanding more things as endeavours doesn't keep me in the game longer, it just stops me from playing actual game content I'd like to play (if I find the endeavour to be still bearable - at some point, it's too much of a waste of time and I rather skip it).

Alinhbo_Tyaka

Calastir wrote: »

The intent and message is clear; "Buy Crown Crates"

That's my thought too. Too many players were buying Crown Store items with Seals of Endeavors and it was affecting their crate sales.

Holmarion19

Just out of interest, here was the thread from PTS where they were testing out some of these.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/638210/u39-pts-endeavours-more-choice-is-less-it-seems/p1

AcadianPaladin

Tandor wrote: »

There's no doubt that over the last week or two the numerical requirements for daily endeavours have increased significantly. As an example, it was always "sell 20 items to merchants", today it's "sell 30 items to merchants". I'm increasingly not bothering with daily endeavours, and only very rarely do the weekly ones which have also been inflated. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean I'm spending more time actually playing the game, I'm just spending less time on ESO.

This^

I have a pretty clear line in my mind between endeavors that are fun and endeavors that are tedious. I hope the game takes a hard look at endeavors because, right now, they are crossing the 'tedious' line too often. Since I don't do tedious things in game, I find myself starting to pay less attention to doing endeavors and not caring as much about trying to get 3 each day.

Susan_Sto

It's not just the daily SOEs that are getting out of hand, Last week's Weekly SOE had 50 World Bosses as a choice, double the normal amount.

If it's to encourage players to buy crown crates or just trying to keep players playing for longer; arbitrarily doubling or tripling requirements is going to have the opposite effect.

Taril

Syldras wrote: »

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Technically, it doesn't matter in most contexts. Language at it's core is designed to do one thing: Communicate.

So long as people understand the ideas you are putting across, it doesn't matter what grammatical or spelling structure you used.

People whom go "Uhm, akshually..." and point out mistakes are just showing that they don't comprehend the basic principle of language...

That said, I don't believe the person was pointing out the difference in grammar. I believe they were pointing out that "Endeavors" are typically difficult tasks and thus having the tasks for the Endeavors in game being more time consuming is supposed to be somehow relevant.

Which, I guess if he wants the game to turn into a full time job just so he can get his 30-45 daily seals of endeavor, all power to him. Most people want to play the game to have fun in their spare time, so designing arbitrarily annoying tasks for pittance rewards is not well received.

Susan_Sto wrote: »

If it's to encourage players to buy crown crates or just trying to keep players playing for longer; arbitrarily doubling or tripling requirements is going to have the opposite effect.

It's funny because Blizzard literally found this out recently too with their Hearthstone game.

They changed the weekly quests to have 2x or even 3x the requirements and put a 20% bonus on the rewards for doing so. Then almost immediately had to backtrack because the result was people not playing longer, but instead just leaving the game entirely.

Games are meant to be games, not jobs. People have enough work in their actual day to day jobs. They don't need their hobbies becoming jobs too.

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