Ok another bank space post

DenverRalphy · October 10

I'd just be happy with a document pouch to store T-Maps and Survey Reports. That alone would make me happy. T-Maps can still not be stackable for all I care. Just a convenient bottomless storage so that whenever new T-Maps and Surveys are added with each DLC, there's still room for them in the pouch.

anadandy · October 10

DenverRalphy wrote: »

The point is, Bank Space is at a premium, and ZoS keeps dumping more items into the game to take up that space.

This. Bank space cap has not been updated in forever, if at all. Yet the game keeps churning out more and more items. Companion gear (my companions might fulfill multiple roles depending on who they're paired with, and can't carry their own gear) antiquity furnishings you have to dig up minimum 3 times to get the codex entries and can neither sell nor decon, new crafting mats/styles, (even if I only keep a handful of each for writs), etc., etc.

I'm glad all the Marie Kondos in ESO are content with what is available, but I'd welcome an increase in the gold purchasable bank upgrades.

Necrotech_Master · October 10

anadandy wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

The point is, Bank Space is at a premium, and ZoS keeps dumping more items into the game to take up that space.

This. Bank space cap has not been updated in forever, if at all. Yet the game keeps churning out more and more items. Companion gear (my companions might fulfill multiple roles depending on who they're paired with, and can't carry their own gear) antiquity furnishings you have to dig up minimum 3 times to get the codex entries and can neither sell nor decon, new crafting mats/styles, (even if I only keep a handful of each for writs), etc., etc.

I'm glad all the Marie Kondos in ESO are content with what is available, but I'd welcome an increase in the gold purchasable bank upgrades.

when bank space doubling was added as a feature of eso+, that literally doubled the bank space

otherwise we would still be stuck at 240 slots

anadandy · October 10

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

anadandy wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

The point is, Bank Space is at a premium, and ZoS keeps dumping more items into the game to take up that space.

This. Bank space cap has not been updated in forever, if at all. Yet the game keeps churning out more and more items. Companion gear (my companions might fulfill multiple roles depending on who they're paired with, and can't carry their own gear) antiquity furnishings you have to dig up minimum 3 times to get the codex entries and can neither sell nor decon, new crafting mats/styles, (even if I only keep a handful of each for writs), etc., etc.

I'm glad all the Marie Kondos in ESO are content with what is available, but I'd welcome an increase in the gold purchasable bank upgrades.

when bank space doubling was added as a feature of eso+, that literally doubled the bank space

otherwise we would still be stuck at 240 slots

IF you subscribe. That doesn't count as an increase, in my opinion.

SilverBride · October 10

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

katanagirl1 · October 10

Elvenheart wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

One man’s trash…lol

Can’t believe we’d discussing this again. For like the third time.

Just the third? 😂

I’m just talking about recently. As in “it seems like just yesterday we were arguing about this”.

spartaxoxo · October 10

SilverBride wrote: »

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

Soul Gems also revive other people. Some people do difficult group content like PvP (especially) and Trials and go through a lot of potions and soul gems.

Number_51 · October 10

Sarannah wrote: »

Other ways to save space instead of adding more bank/inventory slots:
-Master writ bag. (most important to me, would save me the most space)
-Furniture bag.
-Survey holder. (third most important to me)
-Armory gear storage. (second most important to me, as all my characters have multiple armory builds, three or more)
-Soul gems turned into one soul gem or very large stack size.
-Potion bag.
-Motif/style page holder.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I'd just be happy with a document pouch to store T-Maps and Survey Reports. That alone would make me happy. T-Maps can still not be stackable for all I care. Just a convenient bottomless storage so that whenever new T-Maps and Surveys are added with each DLC, there's still room for them in the pouch.

Would love to see a furnishing item, like a bookshelf, that works like a hybrid of chests and the crafting bag but maybe only holds document type items. Master writs, survey maps, treasure maps (that stack), motif chapters, style pages, provisioning recipes, furnishing plans, etc. Could even give it several "states" (like master crafting stations) that fill it with more books the more of each type of document stored in it. That, I would pay for.

katanagirl1 · October 10

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

Soul Gems also revive other people. Some people do difficult group content like PvP (especially) and Trials and go through a lot of potions and soul gems.

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

I don’t feel like we have to justify our inventory contents here to convince others of why we need them, though. Why are our needs less valid than other players? Why can’t others just accept it and move on instead of posting incessantly about it?

DenverRalphy · October 10

Number_51 wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Other ways to save space instead of adding more bank/inventory slots:
-Master writ bag. (most important to me, would save me the most space)
-Furniture bag.
-Survey holder. (third most important to me)
-Armory gear storage. (second most important to me, as all my characters have multiple armory builds, three or more)
-Soul gems turned into one soul gem or very large stack size.
-Potion bag.
-Motif/style page holder.

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I'd just be happy with a document pouch to store T-Maps and Survey Reports. That alone would make me happy. T-Maps can still not be stackable for all I care. Just a convenient bottomless storage so that whenever new T-Maps and Surveys are added with each DLC, there's still room for them in the pouch.

Would love to see a furnishing item, like a bookshelf, that works like a hybrid of chests and the crafting bag but maybe only holds document type items. Master writs, survey maps, treasure maps (that stack), motif chapters, style pages, provisioning recipes, furnishing plans, etc. Could even give it several "states" (like master crafting stations) that fill it with more books the more of each type of document stored in it. That, I would pay for.

That's asking a bit much. Don't get greedy. LOL!

Keep it simple and ask for something a bit more reasonable.

SilverBride · October 10

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

Soul Gems also revive other people. Some people do difficult group content like PvP (especially) and Trials and go through a lot of potions and soul gems.

I know this. But it is very rare that I have to revive that many other players.

TaSheen · October 10

katanagirl1 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

Soul Gems also revive other people. Some people do difficult group content like PvP (especially) and Trials and go through a lot of potions and soul gems.

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

I don’t feel like we have to justify our inventory contents here to convince others of why we need them, though. Why are our needs less valid than other players? Why can’t others just accept it and move on instead of posting incessantly about it?

We really shouldn't have to do so. Each person's needs are individual - and no one should really have to explain "why" they do something. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with asking for more storage space; it's silly that some people want to denigrate the request.

SilverBride · October 10

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

A stack of soul gems is 200. I can't imagine having to res other players that many times.

twev · October 10

katanagirl1 wrote: »

One man’s trash…lol

Can’t believe we’d discussing this again. For like the third time.

A lot of people read the forums every 3 or 8 weeks, and then just a page or two, so they never see the majority of the thread topics the first or second time they're posted.

Necrotech_Master · October 10

SilverBride wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

A stack of soul gems is 200. I can't imagine having to res other players that many times.

you do use soul gems for other things besides rezzing other players

rezzing yourself, or the scribing skills with certain signature scripts consume soul gems

if you use say wield soul with the anchorites cruelty, that can consume up to 1 soul gem every 5 seconds, 200 soul gems, using 1 every 5 seconds, a stack would last you about 16.5 minutes, that would slightly faster if you also use soul burst with achorites cruelty as well (the combined cost would be 3 soul gems every 10 seconds)

the use case the one you quoted mentioned cyrodiil, and in those cases, yes you can rez a significant amount of people at times in pvp, especially if your running a templar with the quick rez cp

kargen27 · October 10

katanagirl1 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

Soul Gems also revive other people. Some people do difficult group content like PvP (especially) and Trials and go through a lot of potions and soul gems.

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

I don’t feel like we have to justify our inventory contents here to convince others of why we need them, though. Why are our needs less valid than other players? Why can’t others just accept it and move on instead of posting incessantly about it?

I'm not against getting more inventory slots if there is no impact on the server. My point is more inventory slots isn't going to fix the problem for people that want more inventory spots. They will fill those slots and then say they need more. It's a player problem people want to blame on the game. At some point players need to decide what stuff they can get rid of.

And we have received some inventory relief. The sticker book and the ability to transmute meant we could unload all kinds of 'just in case' gear. Siege finally stacking helped. There have been other changes that should have helped with inventory. Problem is we fill inventory with other stuff and then want more room to keep still more stuff.

I would like for companions to carry their own gear not so much for more space but because I sometimes forget what gear the companion needs among the different characters.

katanagirl1 · October 11

kargen27 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

Soul Gems also revive other people. Some people do difficult group content like PvP (especially) and Trials and go through a lot of potions and soul gems.

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

I don’t feel like we have to justify our inventory contents here to convince others of why we need them, though. Why are our needs less valid than other players? Why can’t others just accept it and move on instead of posting incessantly about it?

I'm not against getting more inventory slots if there is no impact on the server. My point is more inventory slots isn't going to fix the problem for people that want more inventory spots. They will fill those slots and then say they need more. It's a player problem people want to blame on the game. At some point players need to decide what stuff they can get rid of.

And we have received some inventory relief. The sticker book and the ability to transmute meant we could unload all kinds of 'just in case' gear. Siege finally stacking helped. There have been other changes that should have helped with inventory. Problem is we fill inventory with other stuff and then want more room to keep still more stuff.

I would like for companions to carry their own gear not so much for more space but because I sometimes forget what gear the companion needs among the different characters.

I would agree that if it has a negative performance impact, it is not a reasonable request. We don’t know the answer to that since no one at ZOS is responding to this discussion, so we cannot make any assumptions.

However, other players who state that they don’t personally need it, as a justification against adding more space, is not a valid reason. Especially when they don’t engage in all of the end-game activities like some of us do. The implication from them is that you should have a playstyle that carries the bare minimum of items at all times. That is not feasible for everyone. Yes, we do tend to fill up our inventories when enjoying the game, but when I get done with an activity then I clean up as much as possible.

We had this same discussion ad nauseam not long ago, where different players in trials and PvP explained why they needed lots of stuff in their inventories. It fell on deaf ears, and here we are again being told that we hoard things and carry around junk.

SilverBride · October 11

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

...the scribing skills with certain signature scripts consume soul gems

if you use say wield soul with the anchorites cruelty, that can consume up to 1 soul gem every 5 seconds, 200 soul gems, using 1 every 5 seconds, a stack would last you about 16.5 minutes, that would slightly faster if you also use soul burst with achorites cruelty as well (the combined cost would be 3 soul gems every 10 seconds)

I've yet to scribe anything and that is just another reason I probably never will.

kargen27 · October 11

katanagirl1 wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Unless a player dies a lot they don't need a lot of soul gems. I keep about 50 soul gems on each character and 4 stacks in a chest for my 7 characters to draw from but I've never had to do that yet. I don't know where they are coming from but I'm always putting extra in my chest and when I get more than 4 stacks I sell the extra to a merchant for 6000g a stack.

Soul Gems also revive other people. Some people do difficult group content like PvP (especially) and Trials and go through a lot of potions and soul gems.

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

I don’t feel like we have to justify our inventory contents here to convince others of why we need them, though. Why are our needs less valid than other players? Why can’t others just accept it and move on instead of posting incessantly about it?

I'm not against getting more inventory slots if there is no impact on the server. My point is more inventory slots isn't going to fix the problem for people that want more inventory spots. They will fill those slots and then say they need more. It's a player problem people want to blame on the game. At some point players need to decide what stuff they can get rid of.

And we have received some inventory relief. The sticker book and the ability to transmute meant we could unload all kinds of 'just in case' gear. Siege finally stacking helped. There have been other changes that should have helped with inventory. Problem is we fill inventory with other stuff and then want more room to keep still more stuff.

I would like for companions to carry their own gear not so much for more space but because I sometimes forget what gear the companion needs among the different characters.

I would agree that if it has a negative performance impact, it is not a reasonable request. We don’t know the answer to that since no one at ZOS is responding to this discussion, so we cannot make any assumptions.

However, other players who state that they don’t personally need it, as a justification against adding more space, is not a valid reason. Especially when they don’t engage in all of the end-game activities like some of us do. The implication from them is that you should have a playstyle that carries the bare minimum of items at all times. That is not feasible for everyone. Yes, we do tend to fill up our inventories when enjoying the game, but when I get done with an activity then I clean up as much as possible.

We had this same discussion ad nauseam not long ago, where different players in trials and PvP explained why they needed lots of stuff in their inventories. It fell on deaf ears, and here we are again being told that we hoard things and carry around junk.

Even with this I am still convinced it is a player problem and not a game problem. Most players who are having inventory problems now would eventually have those same problems if we were given more space. Just the nature of the beast. I do most the end game stuff and some of my characters are carrying around five sets of gear. I have my banker and vendor I can unload to when I'm out and about doing things. Without them no way could I keep all that gear on me. I would like to be able to put that gear in the bank and then have it load up when I use the armory. Then if I switch builds the gear would go back to the bank. That means making sure I have the bank space available but that one thing would make switching what content and role I was doing on each character so much easier.
I was having space issues and finally deconned a bunch of gear I hadn't used in maybe five years or more. That and finally selling off motifs I was keeping hoping they would go up in price game me all kinds of room. I do have ESO+ though so that helps.

FlopsyPrince · October 11

Typical ESO problem today:

Lots of people are bothered and post. Many others speak up and say "it is just fine as it is".

No resolution nor any comment from the devs, just the same discussion and nothing changes.

spartaxoxo · October 11

I don't have a bunch of outdated gear that I'm not using. I do have alternative build gear that I do use.

My bank is filled with rare furniture that I plan to use. As a person who enjoys making creative builds in housing with custom elements, I can't just decorate whenever. I have to decorate when I have both the muse and the time. I'm not going to sell it when the item in question is either too difficult or expensive to obtain again later. I sell off cheap junk.

It's also got a lot of surveys and maps, for income reasons.

Siege, soul gems, and potions for the times when I do difficult activities

Transmuted weapons for when I need to change my build

There's a tiny amount of unneeded items there for sentimental reasons but it's like less than 10 slots.

Companion gear for my next companion

And the rest of my space is empty.

If I didn't have Plus, I wouldn't have enough space. Thankfully, I do. Most of the time I have enough space it's when the events happen and I'm farming them that space gets dicey. A small boost in bank space or companions being able to hold companion gear/the armory being able to hold build gear would solve my issues entirely.

Amottica · October 11

Sarannah wrote: »

Other ways to save space instead of adding more bank/inventory slots:
-Master writ bag. (most important to me, would save me the most space)
-Furniture bag.
-Survey holder. (third most important to me)
-Armory gear storage. (second most important to me, as all my characters have multiple armory builds, three or more)
-Soul gems turned into one soul gem or very large stack size.
-Potion bag.
-Motif/style page holder.

I can understand holding onto Master Writs until a double XP event but besides that I see no reason to hold onto them or Surveys. If someone is not doing them then why do they even bother with them and why create a special bag for them to just collect dust? Virtual dust that is.

Amottica · October 11

SilverBride wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

A stack of soul gems is 200. I can't imagine having to res other players that many times.

I agree but I have fun with some casual trial groups that have players who seem oblivious to mechanics. When I have been the OT I am resing players unless I am having to tank something. I have gone through quite a bit when such players are in a development group.

kargen27 · October 11

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Typical ESO problem today:

Lots of people are bothered and post. Many others speak up and say "it is just fine as it is".

No resolution nor any comment from the devs, just the same discussion and nothing changes.

Why would devs show here? Their skill set is for developing not communicating. ZoS has a communications team and they do respond here.

Amottica · October 11

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Typical ESO problem today:

Lots of people are bothered and post. Many others speak up and say "it is just fine as it is".

No resolution nor any comment from the devs, just the same discussion and nothing changes.

I suggest a thread need to have more interest than three pages for a week to peak the devs' interest to the point they would feel compelled to comment. Even then, what would be the opportunity if they were to reply thanking people for contributing their thoughts, but we have no plans to increase storage soon?

Besides, those without ESO+ can easily increase their storage capacity.

Ilumia · October 11

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I agree, I would never go into Cyrodiil or trials without many stacks of soul gems.

A stack of soul gems is 200. I can't imagine having to res other players that many times.

you do use soul gems for other things besides rezzing other players

rezzing yourself, or the scribing skills with certain signature scripts consume soul gems

if you use say wield soul with the anchorites cruelty, that can consume up to 1 soul gem every 5 seconds, 200 soul gems, using 1 every 5 seconds, a stack would last you about 16.5 minutes, that would slightly faster if you also use soul burst with achorites cruelty as well (the combined cost would be 3 soul gems every 10 seconds)

the use case the one you quoted mentioned cyrodiil, and in those cases, yes you can rez a significant amount of people at times in pvp, especially if your running a templar with the quick rez cp

Don’t bother, this person has already disregarded what you said by stating they won't bother with that content instead of just acknowledging "oh right, I didn't realize that, that makes sense, now I see why soulgems should stack to 1k, or why people could need that storage space that I do not."
I genuinely wish people would try to understand other people just a little, no matter if they really want more storage or not, instead of only ever trying to consider their own single point of view. Sometimes in this thread people have asked why the need for storage, and that's great, but then their later replies show that it was not to understand at all, just to tell people that they are wrong and that it's dumb and they should stop playing the way they do. And it isn't to be helpful either, it's to make sure that there isn't an improvement in a field they can't see it's use. It's really sad to see people enter thread after thread with that attitude, and it puts a lot of people down on the way.

VDoom1 · October 11

I suppose the main issue is that they can never please everyone with bank space.
Some people will say they are content and have lots of free space. Other people will say they need ten times more space.

I'm in the middle.
Without ESO+, bank space is reduced a lot. Since more items keep getting added to the game as it naturally develops, it does make sense for our banks and inventory to also increase. To reflect this growth, they should both be in parallel.

I don't know this for certain, but the limits for bank space have remained the same since game launch in 2014. Since then, all that has changed is you can buy more chests from the crown store and inventory pets. Personally I do not find this to be a sufficient method to keep things even and balanced.

Sarannah · October 11

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Other ways to save space instead of adding more bank/inventory slots:
-Master writ bag. (most important to me, would save me the most space)
-Furniture bag.
-Survey holder. (third most important to me)
-Armory gear storage. (second most important to me, as all my characters have multiple armory builds, three or more)
-Soul gems turned into one soul gem or very large stack size.
-Potion bag.
-Motif/style page holder.

there is already only 1 soul gem (2 if you count the crown ones but im only counting normal in game ones), however i would agree with the stack size

a lot of my characters have upwards 4-6 stacks of soul gems on them, i even throw some of the extra stacks into the bank and i have like 6+ stacks in there too

Just wanted to clarify what I meant with one soul gem: one soulgem that has charges. Instead of one soul per gem, the one soulgem could house maybe a million souls in the one gem. With the same usage-wise as we use soulgems now, just neverending. And all in one soulgem.

Amottica wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Other ways to save space instead of adding more bank/inventory slots:
-Master writ bag. (most important to me, would save me the most space)
-Furniture bag.
-Survey holder. (third most important to me)
-Armory gear storage. (second most important to me, as all my characters have multiple armory builds, three or more)
-Soul gems turned into one soul gem or very large stack size.
-Potion bag.
-Motif/style page holder.

I can understand holding onto Master Writs until a double XP event but besides that I see no reason to hold onto them or Surveys. If someone is not doing them then why do they even bother with them and why create a special bag for them to just collect dust? Virtual dust that is.

Because I only do surveys when I need the materials(mostly happens with jewelry). As I said, I do dailies every day and every master writ(during double exp events). I also make gear for builds, which isn't cheap on materials either. So I need those materials and can't just destroy surveys. Doing surveys just takes too much time out of my playtime to collect them, especially as I have 80+ of each, and gain like 8-10 different new ones per day.
Another thing, I do NOT use add-ons. So finding those locations is a real pain.

mdjessup4906 · October 11

When I first started playing, as soon as I could see that storage would be a huge issue, i filled up all my char slots with storage alts.

Think about this for a minute. We need to make characters for the sole purpose of storing stuff. Doesn't this seem incredibly stupid?

And rip those without the funds or desire to pay for a sub, which as I mentioned, isn't the be all solution either.

And all you going on about "need vs want" don't even. This a game. It's supposed to be fun, entertainment, a break from life. We don't "need" anything except food, water, and oxygen. Thats what Quality of Life is supposed to be about.

BXR_Lonestar · October 11

What would help with the bank space is if we had armor stands where we can keep gear for alternate builds on armor stands in our houses (functions as a display too!), and then when we click on the alternate build in the armor table/armorer dude, then it replaces your current gear with the gear on the armor stand you selected, and it puts your current gear on the armor stand.

Doing this would easily remove 30+ slots for support characters who often carry different sets for different situations. It also gets all of that stuff out of the bank (if you are storing it there).

Armor stands could be sold in the crown store and sold for crowns, so it seems like this would be a money maker for Zos too.

Seems like too much win all around to not do this IMO.