Rapport sources for Tanlorin and Zerith-var (feel free to contribute)

Maitsukas

This thread is for collecting all possible sources of Rapport for the two new Companions. Please use the following add-on to get the exact values: https://esoui.com/downloads/info3103-ImprovedCompanionRapportInformation.html

Tanlorin:

• +125 Complete a Fighters Guild Daily Quest
• +125 Complete an Alchemy Crafting Writ Daily Quest
• +5 Craft any Furnishing item
• +5 Drink wine
• +5 Successfully lockpick any container
• +5 Use an Ayleid Well
• +5 Visit Alinor
• +5/+1 Harvest a flower
• +5 Use the Antiquarian's Eye Tool at a dig site
• +5 Absorb a Skyshard
• +1 Learn a Furnishing Recipe
• +1 Craft a wine at a Provisioning Station
• +1 Mount an Indrik
• +1 Kill Daedra
• +1 Kill Maormer
• +1 Obtain a Verse in the Infinite Archive
• +1 Obtain a Scribing Script (+5?)
• -1 Enter a Mages Guildhall
• -1 Read a Mages Guild Lorebook
• -1 Harvest Nirnroot or Crimson Nirnroot
• -1 Kill an Indrik (including World Bosses?)
• -1 Kill a Gryphon (including World Bosses?)
• -5 Visit Eyevea
• -5 Visit Artaeum
• -10/-1 Murder civilians

Zerith-var:

• +125 Complete a Northern Elsweyr Defence Force Daily Quest (Elsweyr Prologue in Grahtwood)
• +125 Complete a Tales of Tribute Daily Quest
• +10 Complete a Tales of Tribute match (doesn't matter if you win or lose)
• +10 Consume a Purifying Bloody Mara
• +10 Heal yourself while in a critical state (red edges on the screen)
• +10 Acquire the Werewolf Skill Line (triggered for me with the PTS-exclusive Werewolf Maxer item, could possibly trigger by leveling up any skill line)
• +10 Destroy a Dark Anchor
• +5 Defeat Tho'at Replicanum in the Infinite Archive
• +5 Visit the Baandari Trading Post in Malabal Tor
• +5 Harvest from a Water node
• +5 Loot a Heavy Sack
• +1 Kill a Vampire
• +1 Defeat a Cycle Boss in the Infinite Archive
• +1 Kill a Skeleton
• +1 Kill a dro-m'Athra
• -1 Fill a Soul Gem with Soul Trap and its morphs or with the Oblivion's Edge set (Soul Lock passive will not affect his Rapport)
• -1 Murder civilians
• -1 Use the Blade of Woe on civilians
• -5 Sell or Launder stolen items
• -5 Get a bounty from using Necromancer 's Criminal Act skills
• -5 Consume a Corrupting Bloody Mara

coop500

Would love to know what they disapprove of too. I hope ZOS didn't make them disapprove of basic game mechanics like so many other companions do.

Necrotech_Master

i would primarily be interested in the +150 sources, as those are the only ones which really matter lol

IncultaWolf

Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.

He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.

Only sources I've found so far

M1SHAAN

For Tanlorin (will edit to add as I find them):

• -1 Read a Mages Guild lorebook
• +5 Use an Ayleid well
• -1 Harvest Nirnroot, including Crimson Nirnroot (they say it gives them a rash lol)
• +5 Collect a skyshard
• -1 Kill an Indrik or Gryphon (check- world boss indriks/gryphons?)
• +5 Visit Alinor
• +5/+1 Harvest a flower (including water hyacinth, not including dragonthorn, not from satchels?)
• +1 Kill a daedra (note: not all daedra. ogrim for sure. maybe bestial daedra?)
• -10/-1 Murder
• +1 Kill a maormer
• +5 loot something of purple/gold quality? (procced from opening reward container) couldn't replicate this
• +1 Obtain a verse in IA
• +5 Obtain a vision in IA
• +5/+1 Obtain a scribing script from a Mages Guild (might not apply to scripts you buy, but did for a mages guild one and one from fighters guild coffer)
• +5 Use the Antiquarian's Eye at a dig site

The big ones:

• +125 Alchemy daily crafting writ (check- alchemy master writ?)
• +125 Complete Fighter's Guild daily quest

For Zerith-var:

• -5 getting caught casting an illegal necromantic skill (check- getting any bounty, on cooldown? dialogue was necomancy-specific)
• -1 Murder
• +5 visit Bandaari trading post
• +1 kill vampire / skeleton (cooldown not shared)

BixenteN7Akantor

IncultaWolf wrote: »

Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.

He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.

Only sources I've found so far

Wait wait wait... You mean he dislikes when the Soul passive everyone has procs ?

ESO_player123

IncultaWolf wrote: »

Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.

He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.

Only sources I've found so far

I beg your pardon, we should not take him into combat then? He will be always disappointed.

coop500

Wow, these dislikes are basic game mechanics! Yippie friggen do! Guess I am skipping these.

ArchangelIsraphel

The fact that Tanlorin loses rapport for reading a mages guild lorebook, but gains it from obtaining a mages guild script, is so contradictory that it makes absolutely no sense. Just...why.

Erickson9610

BixenteN7Akantor wrote: »

IncultaWolf wrote: »

Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.

He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.

Only sources I've found so far

Wait wait wait... You mean he dislikes when the Soul passive everyone has procs ?

ESO_player123 wrote: »

IncultaWolf wrote: »

Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.

He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.

Only sources I've found so far

I beg your pardon, we should not take him into combat then? He will be always disappointed.

I mentioned this in another thread, but the Soul Lock passive does not trigger negative rapport:


...while other passive Soul Gem filling sources like the Oblivion's Edge set do trigger the negative rapport:

PrincessOfThieves

I find it really annoying when companions start scolding you for normal gameplay things such as picking mushrooms or crafting something that contains cheese.
I don't even care about -1 rapport, it is just annoying to hear them complain all the time. No, Bastian, I am not forcing you to eat that Firsthold fruit and cheese plate, I am crafting it for my daily quest! Lol.
Using soul gems is also not really a choice in this game, any build needs them, no matter how lawful good they are. Nobody will give up their ability to resurrect or use weapon enchants because an npc doesn't like it.

coop500

PrincessOfThieves wrote: »

I find it really annoying when companions start scolding you for normal gameplay things such as picking mushrooms or crafting something that contains cheese.
I don't even care about -1 rapport, it is just annoying to hear them complain all the time. No, Bastian, I am not forcing you to eat that Firsthold fruit and cheese plate, I am crafting it for my daily quest! Lol.
Using soul gems is also not really a choice in this game, any build needs them, no matter how lawful good they are. Nobody will give up their ability to resurrect or use weapon enchants because an npc doesn't like it.

Agreed. It's stupidly annoying and doesn't make sense at all, plus just makes all the companions feel like whiny little bossy people, trying to control the actions of another adult who isn't even affecting them.

I love Bastian and thankfully don't have to make cheese items almost never so I can generally safely use him since that'd be the only thing he'd complain about.
But I love changing my outfit, I need alchemy mats (so bugs, nirnroot, and mushrooms), I love fishing, my gear MAY BREAK because I am not micromanaging that *** just to make a NPC happy. I am repairing it when it needs repaired, it's my ***, let me let it break. I could go on because there's that many dumb rapport disapprovals but in the end it is just so grating when it affects core game mechanics like soul gems and outfit stations.

M1SHAAN

ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »

The fact that Tanlorin loses rapport for reading a mages guild lorebook, but gains it from obtaining a mages guild script, is so contradictory that it makes absolutely no sense. Just...why.

Yeah, I need to investigate more to figure out what the actual rapport gain condition is. I thought it might be acquiring any script, but I didn't gain rapport by purchasing scripts from Filer Ool in the archive. Then I thought it might be acquiring any purple/gold item, but I didn't gain rapport by opening one of the companion armor coffers I purchased from Ool either. But then again, I may have been on cooldown, and that could have explained the lack of rapport gain.

I'm very curious if there's a more general rapport condition behind the Mage's Guild script thing because I agree, as I currently understand it, it doesn't make much sense. The one interpretation I have stems from a line they said when we entered a Mages Guild, something along the lines of "let's just loot this place and get out". So maybe they see it as taking stuff from the guild and like it for that reason, like Azandar with Psijic portals?

TX12001rwb17_ESO

That Necromancer companion seems to not only be against being a Vampire but he is against the source of power that fuels our ability to resurrect, how does he even react to a player Necromancer?

Well then, I guess he will have no complaints that he does not get revived when he gets killed by a random trash mob.

Renato90085

Zerith-var:+kill vamp/bloodfiend
+kill bone monster
+ finish Northern Elsweyr Defense Force daily quests(npc in Grahtwood)
+finish Dolmens
- sell/launder stolen items

Pevey

The soul gem passive won't proc if you don't have empty soul gems in your inventory. That said, remembering to always vendor or bank them could be a pain, especially for people who don't have the assistants.

M1SHAAN

Upon further investigation, neither the purple/gold quality item nor the mages guild script rapport were quite correct. Obtaining a scribing script (at least from reward coffer or mages guild, didn't seem to proc from buying) gives +5 rapport, or +1 on cooldown. Other purple quality items didn't give the same rapport gain.

Sunemerald

What I've observed for Zerith-var:

• Vampire killing gave +1
• Alchemical water gave +5
• Zahari's Elsweyr Defense daily (the Grahtwood daily) gave +125

ESO_player123

Renato90085 wrote: »

Zerith-var:+kill vamp/bloodfiend
+kill bone monster
+ finish Northern Elsweyr Defense Force daily quests(npc in Grahtwood)
+finish Dolmens
- sell/launder stolen items

When a vampire player is killed:
Bastian - "You will be avenged!"
Zerith-var - "Sucks to be you I guess..."

ESO_player123

Erickson9610 wrote: »

BixenteN7Akantor wrote: »

IncultaWolf wrote: »

Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.

He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.

Only sources I've found so far

Wait wait wait... You mean he dislikes when the Soul passive everyone has procs ?

ESO_player123 wrote: »

IncultaWolf wrote: »

Zerith dislikes when you use the blade of woe, and also dislikes when you fill an empty soul gem.

He enjoys tales of tribute and collecting water nodes.

Only sources I've found so far

I beg your pardon, we should not take him into combat then? He will be always disappointed.

I mentioned this in another thread, but the Soul Lock passive does not trigger negative rapport:


...while other passive Soul Gem filling sources like the Oblivion's Edge set do trigger the negative rapport:

Thanks for checking this out.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Maitsukas wrote: »

• -1 Enter a Mages Guildhall
• -1 Read a Mages Guild Lorebook
• -1 Harvest Nirnroot or Crimson Nirnroot

Well if I didn’t have enough reason to never, ever purchase Tanlorin I do now. It’s tedious enough leveling the Guild skill lines without her whining at me for setting foot in the building. And having to sit through Azandar griping about mushrooms the first time was bad enough, I don’t need a 2.0 version.

Sunemerald

New Zerith-var Rapport

• Drinking a Purifying Bloody Mara gave +10.

Based on his dialogue he said after the fact, "Yes, shed the layers of your affliction, tamiit. They give you power, but at what cost?", I'm fairly certain it's lowering of the vampirism stage that gives him the increase.

(On that note, the character I'm playing is magicka based and I use the drink to keep my magicka boosted. They're not a vampire, but they still got the boost w/ that response, hence my assumption of the lowering stages thing since that's specifically stated in the drink's description. Any vampires wanna test his response to lowering stages?)

Tanlorin Rapport

• Going to Eyevea gave -5
• Going to Artaeum gave -5

SilverIce58

Does Zerith react to soul gems being used for battle? Like would it be possible for someone to test and see if he reacts to Anchorite's Cruelty/Potency?

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Sunemerald wrote: »

Tanlorin Rapport

• Going to Eyevea gave -5
• Going to Artaeum gave -5

On this note looting a Psijic portal gives -1.

Pelanora

I just want a companion that says 'shall we go to the pub?' And then is lots of fun when we get there.

What's hard about that. I don't need opinions on everything. Why do they have opinions on everything.

Not that we can sit and drink together or anything because they don't SIT. Or drink.

Let them sit down when we sit, I say.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Has anyone tested Flax, or any other blooming non-Alchemy mats I might be forgetting?

OtarTheMad

The negative rapport on both just ensures that I will never use them beyond just unlocking.

I like the unique story on both and I like the way the Khajiit uses Necromancy, that's very different but yeah... pass. A Necromancer who hates Necromancers and the other companion hates Mages Guild... which you have to enter to raise their MG skill line... bad decisions for negative rapport.

How does Zerith respond to the Scribing skills in Soul Magic if you choose the spells that add Oblivion damage and consume a soul gem?

kaushad

So which other dailies does Zerith like? I tried a Northern Elsweyr delve quest and he wasn't fussed. I'm guessing that he likes dragon hunts, but that's rather difficult on PTS. He also expresses an interest in the Infinite Archive, but I haven't tried taking him there, let alone questing there. Imagine if it were the marauder daily!

coop500

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Has anyone tested Flax, or any other blooming non-Alchemy mats I might be forgetting?

I don't think the game devs have that deep of coding to differentiate between different levels of clothing nodes.

BlueRaven

Maitsukas wrote: »

Tanlorin:

• -1 Enter a Mages Guildhall
• -1 Read a Mages Guild Lorebook

I guess it’s ironic I am making Tanlorin a mage.

Renato90085

OtarTheMad wrote: »

The negative rapport on both just ensures that I will never use them beyond just unlocking.

I like the unique story on both and I like the way the Khajiit uses Necromancy, that's very different but yeah... pass. A Necromancer who hates Necromancers and the other companion hates Mages Guild... which you have to enter to raise their MG skill line... bad decisions for negative rapport.

How does Zerith respond to the Scribing skills in Soul Magic if you choose the spells that add Oblivion damage and consume a soul gem?

i try Scribing skills in Soul Magic add Oblivion damage nothing happen