Are you going to use the new Companions, Tanlorin and Zerith-Var?

Necrotech_Master · September 14

I will use both

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

It depends on if I will lose access to them if I cancel eso+

its been posted many many times now, but if you have claimed them, you will not lose access to them, the claim part with eso+ is basically buying them for free from the crown store

once you "bought" it, its yours permanently

TaSheen · September 14

I will not use either

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

It depends on if I will lose access to them if I cancel eso+

There's a post from Kevin (back a few pages maybe) where he states you will keep them should your ESO + sub lapse at any point. I seriously doubt they will be available with an ESO + free trial though - they've been explicitly excluded from the free trial during Blackwood etc.

wolfie1.0. · September 14

I am undecided

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

It depends on if I will lose access to them if I cancel eso+

its been posted many many times now, but if you have claimed them, you will not lose access to them, the claim part with eso+ is basically buying them for free from the crown store

once you "bought" it, its yours permanently

thanks, not sure where it was mentioned that much, i missed the stream and wasn't sure if these were being treated as the same as dungeon dlc, or if it was a free redeem.

SilverBride · September 14

I am undecided

The more I think about it the more I am leaning towards passing on both. Even though I am somewhat interested in seeing how a Necromancer Companion would work I just don't feel like going through the whole unlocking and leveling thing again. Getting the houseguest is tempting but I just don't want it bad enough to do it.

I recently made a thread asking when is it enough with getting new Companions, and I personally have reached that point. If we ever get a Verandis type I'll be all over it, but until then I'm satisfied with Azandar and Sharp.

(I wish we could edit our poll votes.)

LaintalAy · September 15

I will use Tanlorin only

SilverBride wrote: »

The more I think about it the more I am leaning towards passing on both. Even though I am somewhat interested in seeing how a Necromancer Companion would work I just don't feel like going through the whole unlocking and leveling thing again. Getting the houseguest is tempting but I just don't want it bad enough to do it.

I recently made a thread asking when is it enough with getting new Companions, and I personally have reached that point. If we ever get a Verandis type I'll be all over it, but until then I'm satisfied with Azandar and Sharp.

(I wish we could edit our poll votes.)

whitecrow · September 15

I will use Zerith-Var only

I doubt I would buy a companion and I doubt I'll subscribe again but I would only be interested in the Khajiit.

AvalonRanger · September 15

I will not use either

I can't get enough quality tank companion same as mine.
So I don't need companion anymore. Every companion is useless except Ember.

Warhawke_80 · September 15

I will not use either

Ummm no...

Nothing to get excited over, nothing that I can relate to...and I wish I had a reason to subscribe again...but again there just is nothing.

AvalonRanger · September 15

I will not use either

I want to make my sub characters as my companion.
They have unique appearance and good skills than companion characters.

SeaGtGruff · September 15

I am undecided

TaSheen wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

It depends on if I will lose access to them if I cancel eso+

There's a post from Kevin (back a few pages maybe) where he states you will keep them should your ESO + sub lapse at any point. I seriously doubt they will be available with an ESO + free trial though - they've been explicitly excluded from the free trial during Blackwood etc.

I'm 99.9% sure they won't be available for free via an ESO Plus free trial, because the announcement specifically says "you can acquire both new allies for free with an active ESO Plus membership," meaning an active subscription; the free trial does not count as an active membership.

Edit: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/66701

Elvenheart · September 15

I will use both

AvalonRanger wrote: »

I want to make my sub characters as my companion.
They have unique appearance and good skills than companion characters.

I would love a do it yourself companion system going forward. It would certainly be cheaper for ZOS to implement because they could skip the voice actors and background quests.

On second thought, I would miss the uniqueness and stories of the ones they create.

I would also love it if we could summon up to three companions in four-man dungeons, and if they could help us get past 2+ person mechanics.

TaSheen · September 15

I will not use either

Elvenheart wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

I want to make my sub characters as my companion.
They have unique appearance and good skills than companion characters.

I would love a do it yourself companion system going forward. It would certainly be cheaper for ZOS to implement because they could skip the voice actors and background quests.

On second thought, I would miss the uniqueness and stories of the ones they create.

I would also love it if we could summon up to three companions in four-man dungeons, and if they could help us get past 2+ person mechanics.

Yeah. Pretty much the only way I'd be interested in companions at all....

Artim_X · September 15

I will use both

All companions are destined to wear The Nordic Bather's Towel. Such is fate.

Syldras · September 15

I am undecided

Elvenheart wrote: »

I would love a do it yourself companion system going forward. It would certainly be cheaper for ZOS to implement because they could skip the voice actors and background quests.
On second thought, I would miss the uniqueness and stories of the ones they create.

It's not like they couldn't do both (in theory, at least)

Elvenheart wrote: »

I would also love it if we could summon up to three companions in four-man dungeons, and if they could help us get past 2+ person mechanics.

Yes! I can understand if summoning more than one is disabled for overland, as it would get really crowded, but in dungeons I see no problem.

Artim_X wrote: »

All companions are destined to wear The Nordic Bather's Towel. Such is fate.

That's harmless.

LanteanPegasus · September 15

1. Whenever I'm adventuring through Tamriel without Bastian, I miss him. So even the other companions that I like don't travel with me for very long times.
2. If I like a companion or not depends completely on their story and personality, not their class or abilities. (Although the Arcanist skills are so flashy and ugly that I'd have a hard time tolerating them for longer times, despite Azandar being quite allright.)
3. I don't have unlimited playing time. That's why so far I only maxed out Basti (because he's the companion that was practically written for me and my main character), Ember (As companion for my roguish Khajiit. She's very likeable in her quests, sometimes a bit weird in her comments, though.) and Azandar (The only one where I did it mostly for the perk. His character is okay, his story a bit boring, like everything Apocrypha-related. Would have stopped at max rapport and finished story, but did the endless level-up to max for the portfolios before I put him away.)
I'll probably get around to maxing out Sharps rapport and play through his story, because I think I'll like him, but that's it. (His perk is also great, but I already have my Master Angler, and if I want to fish with him I can invite him to it anytime.)

That said - I'm looking forward a lot to meeting Zerith-var. A Khajiit warrior from a priestly order that took up Necromancy to redeem lost souls. (Maybe even something about saving Dro-m'Athra?) A hero out of time, seeking his way, and wanting to help me find mine. Accompanied by a ghost cat that speaks to him and (hopefully) myself. And he even looks cool and has a great perk!
I never ever expected that they would come up with an idea for a Necromancer that I'd find even tolerable. This one is intriguing! And since ESO made me love the Khajiit and their culture I can't wait to play through his story!
Very high hopes for this one! Although Bastian will probably still be my favourite.

With Tanlorin I'm sceptical. "A scrappy thief with a brash personality", combined with flashy purple hair and purple eyes... I love dashing, swashbuckly characters with witty quips and a "golden heart". But those are not that easy to write without crossing the line and making them just annoying wannabes that think themselves oh-so-cool. A character with optics as flashy as Tanlorin's, introduced with wording like that, usually comes out at the wrong side of that line for my tastes. And if they are from the trope of "self-reliant badass that's too cool to rely on anyone" I'll yawn and be on my way. (They made that work for Sharp, but in a much more subtle way than a character with a picture like that Altmer could ever be.) But I'll wait and see. They'll have their chance, but I doubt they will really capture my attention. I might max them out, anyway, for the perk that is quite useful, but that might be it. (Oh, and for the records, their preferred gender doesn't matter to me, as long as it isn't all the character is defined about.)

Since I have ESO+ active just because of the crafting bag it is actually a perk for me that the new companions come for free via that. Sadly, it also shows how much ESO has lost in terms of unique content during the last years. Where companions once were part of a chapter now we have tiny chapters, no story DLC, and the companions and their stories are "sold" separately, taking up what once was a whole DLC story zone.

KaosWarMonk · September 15

I will use both

I solo 99% of the time, usually like having a companion around so will use both definitely.

ChaoticWings3 · September 16

I will use both

I like the companion passives especially the heavy sack one. Mostly solo player for lore exploration so companions are useful when you are just exploring the overland and you need them to tank a boss while you can focus on dps. I move very slowly through the content so I don't really want to disturb others if I'm just doing the easier content in the game. I also enjoy the little questlines they have too. Granted I only really have completed Sharp's questline so far but I enjoyed it.

spartaxoxo · September 16

I will use both

LanteanPegasus wrote: »

With Tanlorin I'm sceptical. "A scrappy thief with a brash personality", combined with flashy purple hair and purple eyes... I love dashing, swashbuckly characters with witty quips and a "golden heart". But those are not that easy to write without crossing the line and making them just annoying wannabes that think themselves oh-so-cool.

This is honestly one of my favorite tropes in media as well. I thought it was really done well in the Thieves Guild and with Zaji, so I'm willing to give ZOS the benefit of the doubt that I'll also enjoy Tanlorin.

However, the way Jakarn was written in High Isle was definitely a big step down from how he was introduced. And I'm a bit worried that with Tanlorin they'll jump the shark on this type of character. I honestly blame Marvel for kinda ruining this type of character. It seems like ever since the quippy Marvel dialogue did so well, other companies want to copy it. But they're doing a worse and worse job of it. Marvel characters are meant to be a bit cartoonish but it can a bit jarring in stuff that's a bit more grounded like ESO. And these sorts of sassy characters are especially likely to fall prey to that, I think.

AvalonRanger · September 16

I will not use either

Companion is just role playing toy. I know that.
And we can't use them for the Vet dungeon effectively ,
because of maintaining game balance. OK, I accept it.

But....

Companion always keep consuming my healer character's magika
just like their energy drink. And without it, they can't survive just
30sec on the overland field. Companion try to kill my healer character
just like magika vampire.

They need buff.

Ember is useful as DD if she is doing with my tank. But with my DD character,
then companion is really useless. Isobel is 100% fake tank, compared with
my real tank.

TaSheen · September 16

I will not use either

spartaxoxo wrote: »

LanteanPegasus wrote: »

With Tanlorin I'm sceptical. "A scrappy thief with a brash personality", combined with flashy purple hair and purple eyes... I love dashing, swashbuckly characters with witty quips and a "golden heart". But those are not that easy to write without crossing the line and making them just annoying wannabes that think themselves oh-so-cool.

This is honestly one of my favorite tropes in media as well. I thought it was really done well in the Thieves Guild and with Zaji, so I'm willing to give ZOS the benefit of the doubt that I'll also enjoy Tanlorin.

However, the way Jakarn was written in High Isle was definitely a big step down from how he was introduced. And I'm a bit worried that with Tanlorin they'll jump the shark on this type of character. I honestly blame Marvel for kinda ruining this type of character. It seems like ever since the quippy Marvel dialogue did so well, other companies want to copy it. But they're doing a worse and worse job of it. Marvel characters are meant to be a bit cartoonish but it can a bit jarring in stuff that's a bit more grounded like ESO. And these sorts of sassy characters are especially likely to fall prey to that, I think.

I actually have had no use for Jakarn EVER. I really do not want sleazeball characters in a game - unless they're on the "other side"....

I don't have a clue about "quippy Marvel dialogue". Not something I ever pay any attention to. For reference - the last time I had anything to do with a "superhero" was comic books about Superman in the mid-50s, and that was because my dad thought they were great, so bought them for my brother (and I got them later by default instead of the real books I'd rather have had - and which I had to access through whatever library was available, if any).

spartaxoxo · September 16

I will use both

TaSheen wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

LanteanPegasus wrote: »

With Tanlorin I'm sceptical. "A scrappy thief with a brash personality", combined with flashy purple hair and purple eyes... I love dashing, swashbuckly characters with witty quips and a "golden heart". But those are not that easy to write without crossing the line and making them just annoying wannabes that think themselves oh-so-cool.

This is honestly one of my favorite tropes in media as well. I thought it was really done well in the Thieves Guild and with Zaji, so I'm willing to give ZOS the benefit of the doubt that I'll also enjoy Tanlorin.

However, the way Jakarn was written in High Isle was definitely a big step down from how he was introduced. And I'm a bit worried that with Tanlorin they'll jump the shark on this type of character. I honestly blame Marvel for kinda ruining this type of character. It seems like ever since the quippy Marvel dialogue did so well, other companies want to copy it. But they're doing a worse and worse job of it. Marvel characters are meant to be a bit cartoonish but it can a bit jarring in stuff that's a bit more grounded like ESO. And these sorts of sassy characters are especially likely to fall prey to that, I think.

I actually have had no use for Jakarn EVER. I really do not want sleazeball characters in a game - unless they're on the "other side"....

I don't have a clue about "quippy Marvel dialogue". Not something I ever pay any attention to. For reference - the last time I had anything to do with a "superhero" was comic books about Superman in the mid-50s, and that was because my dad thought they were great, so bought them for my brother (and I got them later by default instead of the real books I'd rather have had - and which I had to access through whatever library was available, if any).

I wouldn't have anything to do with someone like Jakarn IRL, but it's a fun way to engage with fantasy IMO. Part of the fun fantasy is being able to enjoy things that wouldn't happen IRL imo e.g. Pirates that don't steal from anyone but evil people with infinite wealth.

As for Marvel, they pack their stories with constant quips. And they very often undercut scenes that are supposed to have dramatic tension with it too. Basically an anti-climax. They certainly did not invent either of these things. They are very old ideas that predate movies entirely. But, Marvel has made it gain new popularity and because those movies make more money than all others, this type of thing is spreading to other movies where it absolutely doesn't belong. At the end of the day Marvel movies are supposed to be "fun for all ages" and it's humor and sensibilities skew young. But, that doesn't mean that ALL movies have to. I'm seeing this stuff in even M rated things.

SilverBride · September 16

I am undecided

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I wouldn't have anything to do with someone like Jakarn IRL...

I would.

ADarklore · September 16

I am undecided

I'll definitely unlock them both and probably get them leveled-up, since that's one thing I really enjoy- leveling- even if Companion leveling is extremely tedious.

As for using them permanently... well that depends a lot on their usefulness and especially personality. There is a reason I don't use Ember... at all. I think her skills are awesome, but her childish personality and high voice grates on me.

Sharp so far has been my favorite, then Bastian, then Isobel. I use Azandar as a tank for fighting world bosses ONLY, so that's the only time he comes out. The others I have set as DPS- which I don't really need in most content- but they are still fun to have around.

I'll be curious how the new characters are with personality and VOICE. As I said, Ember's voice and personality are the main reasons I don't use her... hopefully the new characters are better than her.

Syldras · September 16

I am undecided

ADarklore wrote: »

I'll be curious how the new characters are with personality and VOICE. As I said, Ember's voice and personality are the main reasons I don't use her... hopefully the new characters are better than her.

It's the same for me - if I can't stand the character traits or the voice, it's over. And I also disliked Ember because of that (same reason: too childish for my liking).

I wouldn't say some characters are "better" than others, though. From the writing quality, they were all done okay so far (the only thing I dislike a bit is that ZOS sometimes emphasizes 1 or 2 single personality aspects a bit too often in their voice lines - and in general, there could be more different lines altogether). Ember certainly depicts a certain character type well - for those who like that, she's perfect. In the end, it's a question of personal taste.

Let's wait and see how the new ones are. Will someone who tests them on PTS write a little here?

SilverBride · September 16

I am undecided

The description about these Companions says "Once acquired, you can find and recruit them within the zones of Auridon (Tanlorin), and Reaper’s March (Zerith-var).".

Does this mean we won't run into them unless we acquire them? Or will they be present in the world but just not interactable?

BXR_Lonestar · September 16

I will not use either

I don't really use the companions I have now, so I'm definitely not going to use these companions.

Necrotech_Master · September 16

I will use both

SilverBride wrote: »

The description about these Companions says "Once acquired, you can find and recruit them within the zones of Auridon (Tanlorin), and Reaper’s March (Zerith-var).".

Does this mean we won't run into them unless we acquire them? Or will they be present in the world but just not interactable?

i dont think will know the full details until its out on the PTS

SilverBride · September 16

I am undecided

I hope they aren't visible at all unless we acquire them.

Hamfast · September 16

I will use both

I will get, use and level both... just like the rest.

I will work to level them up in all their skill lines... just like the rest... (it's the completionist in me)

and I will listen to what they say and react according to their wishes... sort of...

Bastian is the only companion that I have maxed his rapport on one character to the full -5000 (max negative). he gets on my nerves and hates cheese...

If the new ones have opinions that get to grate on my nerves, I may give them the same treatment, we will have to see.

Warhawke_80 · September 16

I will not use either

SilverBride wrote: »

I hope they aren't visible at all unless we acquire them.

I'm pretty sure if someone is using a companion you will see it...just like if someone is riding a Radiant aspect everyone will see it. I think it should be if you don't own something you can't see it in the world.....I hate when my frame rate drops every time a guild full of sparkle ponies rides by.