The Minotaur polymorph

Thee_Cheshire_Cat

i'm down for it... It opens up a potential new RPG character!

However... developers... did no one notice the hilariously SMALL baby hands this poor creature has? And the wee little hoofer feets?

DinoZavr

Finally, @ZOS' appreciation of @JHartEllis



good job, Zenimax.

El_Borracho

There are minotaurs in the game. Why can't this polymorph look like those? Looks like a bull who really likes crossfit.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat

El_Borracho wrote: »

There are minotaurs in the game. Why can't this polymorph look like those? Looks like a bull who really likes crossfit.

Interesting they woulda gone to the trouble of trying to make a new model when they had a much better looking one already in the game.

SonOfSoma

I was really hyped about it but my God what is disappointment.
There's something not quite right with it. It looks really strange.
Thus I didn't purchase it.

Tommy_The_Gun

Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

There are minotaurs in the game. Why can't this polymorph look like those? Looks like a bull who really likes crossfit.

Interesting they woulda gone to the trouble of trying to make a new model when they had a much better looking one already in the game.

Probably because of animations & skeleton of the model. This Mino is just a re-skin of regular player model with different non-animated head & hooves instead of feet. Tail is probably using Khajiit & Argonian animation model or it is static (not animated) since it is short.

It looks a bit off, especially since we have Minotaur NPCs/Mobs in the game, but like I have said - those models most likely use different animations. ZOS does not like adding new animations to the game. Heck, they even disabled Crow Assistant from being used in Werewolf form, since animation was clipping. Instead to adding a proper animation or just no animation at all (Crow keeps hovering in the air instead of landing on your arm if you are in WW form), they chosen to hide the issue instead.

WW has a lot of limitation most likely because of the need to make proper animations. I would imagine this Mino polymorph is the same case. They made it in a very simple way so that player animations would work and the polymorph would not require making a whole set of new animations.

Edit:
Model also seems to have its own sound set. Roll dodge sounds & grunts your character makes are minotaur-ish.

SkaiFaith

I purchased it and while I'm not 100% satisfied I really like it.
One "important" note: it doesn't show equipped Shields on the back. I just purchased the Lucent Sentinel Shield motif and I can't even show it... Ah, whatever.

Also, I use the Blossom Bloom Memento and on the Minotaur... It appears on the back of the head instead of over it, since the head goes forward with its skeleton.

Initially I found the model to be strange but I am learning to appreciate it. It is still cool in the end XD Not regretting the purchase (at least until I'll eventually find out a hypothetical Mirrormoor Hollow Sentinel polymorph will come out in December - I'm just talking randomly since I asked for it back in March)

Tommy_The_Gun

Also one important note: Don't use WW ulti with this polymorph equipped. It will glitch you out and you will be stuck in WW form with most animations not working and not being able to use skills. This ghost-wolf state (game considers you not a WW, but you are unable to do most stuff since you have still WW model & animation loaded) persists till you change zones.

Thee_Cheshire_Cat

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

There are minotaurs in the game. Why can't this polymorph look like those? Looks like a bull who really likes crossfit.

Interesting they woulda gone to the trouble of trying to make a new model when they had a much better looking one already in the game.

Probably because of animations & skeleton of the model. This Mino is just a re-skin of regular player model with different non-animated head & hooves instead of feet. Tail is probably using Khajiit & Argonian animation model or it is static (not animated) since it is short.

It looks a bit off, especially since we have Minotaur NPCs/Mobs in the game, but like I have said - those models most likely use different animations. ZOS does not like adding new animations to the game. Heck, they even disabled Crow Assistant from being used in Werewolf form, since animation was clipping. Instead to adding a proper animation or just no animation at all (Crow keeps hovering in the air instead of landing on your arm if you are in WW form), they chosen to hide the issue instead.

WW has a lot of limitation most likely because of the need to make proper animations. I would imagine this Mino polymorph is the same case. They made it in a very simple way so that player animations would work and the polymorph would not require making a whole set of new animations.

Edit:
Model also seems to have its own sound set. Roll dodge sounds & grunts your character makes are minotaur-ish.

Ahh this would explain the itty bitty baby hands and weird feet. Shame they didn't give it a sexy muscular chest at the very least. Oh well.

In a pinch, still works better than just running around with the helm thing that is a mino head. lol

Jaimeh

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Also one important note: Don't use WW ulti with this polymorph equipped. It will glitch you out and you will be stuck in WW form with most animations not working and not being able to use skills. This ghost-wolf state (game considers you not a WW, but you are unable to do most stuff since you have still WW model & animation loaded) persists till you change zones.

I hope they fix this for the people who get the poly. It sucks they release expensive things that turn out to be broken or glitch out or changed in a way the players didn't foresee (like the Molag poly's voice) and then players have to wait if and when they will be fixed...

TDVM

This polymorph has 2 problems: the eyes are not animated - it doesn't blink, and the mouth doesn't open. And the second is the small hooves

JimT722

I think the polymorph is good. it could be much better. They didn't really capture the dimensions very well. the chest and hooves are a little undefined. I think they could have captured the feel of the npc minotaurs better.

I also don't know why this doesn't have a default personality that changes posture and animations to feel more like the npc minotaur. they aren quite as upright. they did it with the goblin polymorph and it seems like a missed opportunity with the minotaur.

Wolfkeks

TDVM wrote: »

This polymorph has 2 problems: the eyes are not animated - it doesn't blink, and the mouth doesn't open. And the second is the small hooves

I was wondering if it was just me or the minotaur really didn't blink when I saw someone wear the polymorph

disky

I don't usually like polymorphs, but I was really into this one! I'm still not going to buy it, but I think it's incredibly cool and it looks fantastic.

VouxeTheMinotaur

I love this polymorph, and while i do share some similar thoughts on the small hands and tiny hoofed feet, I'm just really glad it's added to the game : )

i also did notice, like many polymorphs, that when combined with the beast personality, its silent during some of the personalities audio cues, like sniffing and roaring (or hello emote). Which is unfortunate because i did notice ZOS include bull-like audio for other actions.

otherwise, i like it! it had been a frequent request of mine in the crown store wishlist for months upon months now, so i was quite shocked and excited when my buddy sent me an in-game screenshot of it once the crates refreshed!

NDReptiles

I was excited when I heard about it, but disappointed when I saw it. But after looking back and forth a bit, I think I'll still get it. I'll just consider it young and not fully developed yet. 😂

Necrotech_Master

when i was looking at this poly yesterday, it really gave me the vibes of "sports team mascot" instead of minotaur so i decided to pass on getting this lol

LunaFlora

it seems to be based on Morihaus from the Alessia tribute cards

Fischblut

No matter how the polymorph looks, only the suitable voice can make me buy (or skip) it.
Everyone talks about the weak Minotaur voice, but there is still no video showcase of it yet Can someone please record it?

When I preview it in store with certain personalities (which make a character laugh randomly, like Drunk or Worm Wizard), this polymorph makes no sound at all.

Also, I do not forgive what was done to Molag Bal Illusion's voice, and I still wait for appropriate resolution which was promised to everyone in the next major update

GlassHalfFull

I like this polymorph, yet I do not love it. It looks brown clothing upon brown fur, and as others have mentioned, no mouth movement, and it seems to run slow.

I could not find a way to dye the clothing on it, did I miss something, or is dyeing not possible.

I think ZOS needs to do more work on this, I am hopeful they read this thread and act on comments.

LunaFlora

GlassHalfFull wrote: »

I like this polymorph, yet I do not love it. It looks brown clothing upon brown fur, and as others have mentioned, no mouth movement, and it seems to run slow.

I could not find a way to dye the clothing on it, did I miss something, or is dyeing not possible.

I think ZOS needs to do more work on this, I am hopeful they read this thread and act on comments.

No you didn't miss something, we cannot dye polymorphs

Coo_PnT

I really like this cow polymorph!
It is exquisitely ugly and expressionless, and I think that is what makes it so cute.
It's just too bad that it moves slower than a regular humanoid.

huskandhunger

I love moo moo cow 🐮💖

100% beef, no bull 🍖 😎

coop500

Coo_PnT wrote: »

I really like this cow polymorph!
It is exquisitely ugly and expressionless, and I think that is what makes it so cute.
It's just too bad that it moves slower than a regular humanoid.

I don't think it actually moves slower. I think it's because that it is so big, the animation is slowed down, giving a sluggish feel. But you're still covering the same amount of ground.

Coo_PnT

coop500 wrote: »

Coo_PnT wrote: »

I really like this cow polymorph!
It is exquisitely ugly and expressionless, and I think that is what makes it so cute.
It's just too bad that it moves slower than a regular humanoid.

I don't think it actually moves slower. I think it's because that it is so big, the animation is slowed down, giving a sluggish feel. But you're still covering the same amount of ground.

Yes I know, I wrote that wrong. It does not slow down the actual operation. It just feels slower.