Maintenance for the week of December 16:
• [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
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• [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
Livestream for Update 44 happening now...
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, not cool given they were pulled from the chapter. Everyone who bought Gold Road should get them. Also, that means you lose them if you cancel sub, I suppose.
I've tolerated a lot of content reductions during the last few years, but this is truly disappointing. Even if I still have ESO+, I guess I won't even bother interacting with the new companions if I lose access anyway if I cancel some day. Yes, I know I could buy them from the subscription crowns, but as they have been part of the chapter before, I'm absolutely not willing to do that.
I'm really wondering if ZOS could not imagine before how much annoyance that would cause with many players? They're certainly not gaining popularity with this.@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire12 -
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✭✭✭✭✭One of the meet-ups will have an ESO tavern, so that should be fun for those who can attend live.0 -
Fata1moose✭✭✭✭✭Charging for companions after the chapter was very clearly a dlc zone repurposed sure is a choice. Give us less and less, charge more and more.18 -
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✭✭10th anniversary meetups:
Sept: Italy, San Diego - both full
Oct: Australia (Melbourne, Sydney), Spain, Poland
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AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've tolerated a lot of content reductions during the last few years, but this is truly disappointing. Even if I still have ESO+, I guess I won't even bother interacting with the new companions if I lose access anyway if I cancel some day. Yes, I know I could buy them from the subscription crowns, but as they have been part of the chapter before, I'm absolutely not willing to do that.
Yeah, not much of an ESO+ benefit if you lose them if you unsub. Because of that, I'll probably grit my teeth and buy them, but I'm NOT happy about it.
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✭✭✭✭✭Elder Scrolls: Castle is a new mobile game launch. ESO online will have a pet egg looking thingy that you can get as partnership with this new mobile game. You'll manage a castle. I haven't played Fall Out Shelter but it's giving me those vibes.
Available for download now. You can get the little egg from the crown store on Sept 16th.Edited by spartaxoxo on September 10, 2024 8:02PM0 -
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✭✭That's it! Keep an eye out for the PTS patch notes on Monday, which will have all the details.1 -
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You're right, but I'll still buy them. I wonder if they come with quests to get them. If not, I'll be disappointed.
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✭✭✭✭✭To date, they have never released a free companion. It has always relied on purchase of a chapter. And since they have pretty much demonetized the majority of their updates, going from 4 that cost money/subscription to 2, this really isn't all that surprising that these would be a sole breakout costing addition.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I mean I'd be fine if they introduced a bunch of extra companions to buy in the crown store, or announced that they would sell extras every now and then from now on. But if there's only 2 this year that originally would have been free, it's a different matter...@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire5 -
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You're right, but I'll still buy them. I wonder if they come with quests to get them. If not, I'll be disappointed.
im sure they will likely still have some personal companion quests, as the companion is the quest starter for those and they can make you go to any existing area
i dont see why you would lose a bought item if you dropped eso+ though, that literally doesnt happen for any other paid for content
you would lose access to say mirri if you did not buy blackwood and only accessed it with eso+, but if you bought blackwood you would never lose access to mirri
if these new companions were crown only, you wouldnt ever lose them if you bought themplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
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AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Necrotech_Master wrote: »i dont see why you would lose a bought item if you dropped eso+ though, that literally doesnt happen for any other paid for ...
I understand that I won't lose them if I buy them with crowns. What I'm saying is that it's not much of an ESO+ benefit if you go through the trouble of levelling them up, but then lose them if you unsub (assuming you haven't bought them with crowns).
And as I said earlier, given that they were pulled from Gold Road, anyone who bought Gold Road should get them for free, period. Especially since they still charged AAA price for Gold Road, a smaller zone with less content.
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✭✭✭✭✭Necrotech_Master wrote: »i dont see why you would lose a bought item if you dropped eso+ though, that literally doesnt happen for any other paid for ...
I understand that I won't lose them if I buy them with crowns. What I'm saying is that it's not much of an ESO+ benefit if you go through the trouble of levelling them up, but then lose them if you unsub (assuming you haven't bought them with crowns).
And as I said earlier, given that they were pulled from Gold Road, anyone who bought Gold Road should get them for free, period. Especially since they still charged AAA price for Gold Road, a smaller zone with less content.
Eh. It's like all the other DLC in that regard. ESO+ lets you rent content rather than own it. Not an issue for people who won't play unsubbed. But as someone who used to let my sub lapse on purpose, and may still do so in the future, I most definitely feel the difference and have been buying those DLC for years. That's why I actually appreciated those times they gave some away for free.1 -
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✭Yeah, not much of an ESO+ benefit if you lose them if you unsub. Because of that, I'll probably grit my teeth and buy them, but I'm NOT happy about it.
If you get them with ESO+ they will not go away if you unsub.
They are not automatically free you have to go get them from the Crown store, unlike ESO+ making the DLC's available to play automatically only for the duration of the sub...
NON- ESO+ the new companions are purchased with Crowns (which is basically real money).
Possibly If you do not have ESO+ just get them during one of the times ESO+ is available as a free trial.
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✭✭✭✭✭I saw a brief mention somewhere of cross play. Anyone know anything about that? I wasn't home for the stream....______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah, not much of an ESO+ benefit if you lose them if you unsub. Because of that, I'll probably grit my teeth and buy them, but I'm NOT happy about it.
If you get them with ESO+ they will not go away if you unsub. If you have ESO+ you get them free as a ESO + benefit. Otherwise the new companions are purchased with Crowns (which is basicly real money).
If you do not have ESO+ just get them during one of the times ESO+ is available as a free trial.
I have ESO+, but now I'm confused since you're saying if I unsub I would still get to use the companions, but someone else is saying I'd lose access to them.0 -
WitchyKiki✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, not much of an ESO+ benefit if you lose them if you unsub. Because of that, I'll probably grit my teeth and buy them, but I'm NOT happy about it.
If you get them with ESO+ they will not go away if you unsub. If you have ESO+ you get them free as a ESO + benefit. Otherwise the new companions are purchased with Crowns (which is basicly real money).
If you do not have ESO+ just get them during one of the times ESO+ is available as a free trial.
Was this specified on the live? I don't recall them mentioning this.Context is for kings -Captain Gabriel Lorca0 -
AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WitchyKiki wrote: »Was this specified on the live? I don't recall them mentioning this.
On live, they said that you get the companions with ESO+, otherwise you have to buy them from the crown store. I think you lose access to them if you have ESO+ and unsub, just like you would lose access to DLCs and dungeons you don't own. I know I lost access to them when I unsubbed for a while.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, not much of an ESO+ benefit if you lose them if you unsub. Because of that, I'll probably grit my teeth and buy them, but I'm NOT happy about it.
If you get them with ESO+ they will not go away if you unsub. If you have ESO+ you get them free as a ESO + benefit. Otherwise the new companions are purchased with Crowns (which is basicly real money).
If you do not have ESO+ just get them during one of the times ESO+ is available as a free trial.
I have ESO+, but now I'm confused since you're saying if I unsub I would still get to use the companions, but someone else is saying I'd lose access to them.
if the companions are say offered as a free bonus for eso+, it will be like every other deal in eso, if you claim it in the crown store its permanently accessible
it might be one of those things where it costs like 5000 crowns, but has an eso+ price of free
regardless, if you "purchased" it (either free as eso+ bonus or with crowns) you wont lose access to it ever
i think theres confusion going on with the free eso+ weekends, because those free eso+ trials dont get access to companions even though they now have access to the chapter DLC the companion was part ofplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
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Ingenon✭✭✭✭✭On UESP Online:Companions it says 'If you have access to the respective chapter or DLC (except if you only have access due to an ESO Plus free trial), you can meet a Companion during the first quest of their questline."
So I think that you cannot unlock the new companions during an ESO Plus free trial.
I do not know if you get to keep access to a companion you unlocked because you have ESO Plus, and then you unsub.0 -
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✭✭Necrotech_Master wrote: »if the companions are say offered as a free bonus for eso+, it will be like every other deal in eso, if you claim it in the crown store its permanently accessible
Okay, I guess then it depends on how they're offered. If we can claim them for free, then yeah, unsubbing won't matter. But if they're part of the subscription, like DLCs, then we would lose access.
So that's a question, then. Do ESO+ subscribers get to claim the companions, and therefore own them, or are the companions part of the subscription, in which case we're only renting them?
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disky✭✭✭✭✭To date, they have never released a free companion. It has always relied on purchase of a chapter. And since they have pretty much demonetized the majority of their updates, going from 4 that cost money/subscription to 2, this really isn't all that surprising that these would be a sole breakout costing addition.
I'll say this, since I've stopped buying the (digital collector's edition) chapters on day one and I'm no longer subscribing to ESO+, I'm saving a lot of money, which might help to subsidize a purchase of one of their companions. I won't be doing that anytime soon, but maybe if they're on deep discount one day.
If they ever address overland challenge, that is.0 -
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✭WitchyKiki wrote: »Yeah, not much of an ESO+ benefit if you lose them if you unsub. Because of that, I'll probably grit my teeth and buy them, but I'm NOT happy about it.
If you get them with ESO+ they will not go away if you unsub. If you have ESO+ you get them free as a ESO + benefit. Otherwise the new companions are purchased with Crowns (which is basicly real money).
If you do not have ESO+ just get them during one of the times ESO+ is available as a free trial.
Was this specified on the live? I don't recall them mentioning this.
If you get any of the ESO+ monthly free items Paintings, mini-statues, Priestess of Mara costume, and such. they do not go away when you unsub.Si vis pacem, para bellum3 -
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For those that obtain the new companions via ESO+, will access to them be removed if the subscription lapses?
I thought Gina said something along the lines of ESO+ people would still have to go into the Crown Store to obtain these, which makes it a "FREE" item purchase for ESO+. Logic would dictate the companions would remain in the mix even after a sub lapses?Edited by hiyde on September 10, 2024 8:41PM@Hiyde GM/Founder - Bleakrock Barter Co (Trade Guild - PC/NA) | Blackbriar Barter Co (Trade Guild-PC/NA)2 -
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✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin
For those that obtain the new companions via ESO+, will access to them be removed if the subscription lapses?
I thought Gina said something along the lines of ESO+ people would still have to go into the Crown Store to obtain these, which makes it a "FREE" item purchase. Logic would dictate the companions would remain in the mix even after a sub lapses?
I think you might be right, but it would be nice to get confirmation.1