Trophies made from human heads

Syldras · August 2

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Speaking about yucky things in other games. How many of you finished a quest in Skyrim where the Dragonborn was supposed to partake in cannibalism to get the Ring of Namira? This is where I personally drew the line (always killed the quest giver on the spot).

I played along until the feast (if there's a weird cult to uncover, I can't resist - I usually see how far I can get until my character would find it too repulsive), then spared the priest. Although the creepiest thing about it was seeing different commoners from Markarth as guests there (except for the Bosmer who probably was just homesick

).

TheNuminous1 · August 2

Have you seen those briarheart trees. Absolutely disgusting. Love em. This game is brutal and honestly the heads on planks is way less disturbing the. The mutilated burnt corpses. Or piles of flesh and bones and viscera.

If you think those heads are bad your not paying any attention to every single dang zone in this game. Especially the daedric ones.

Pay mor attention this game is way more brutal then heads on a board.

prof-dracko · August 2

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

Have you seen those briarheart trees. Absolutely disgusting. Love em. This game is brutal and honestly the heads on planks is way less disturbing the. The mutilated burnt corpses. Or piles of flesh and bones and viscera.

If you think those heads are bad your not paying any attention to every single dang zone in this game. Especially the daedric ones.

Pay mor attention this game is way more brutal then heads on a board.

There's a narrative difference between what's happening out in the world and the actions of NPCs in the stories and what my character is implied to be doing in acquiring these trophies. Reachmen can grow briarheart trees and Daedra can kill and torture, that's just what they do. But my character would not rip the head off a man and nail it to a piece of wood to hang on his wall. He'd probably take his helmet as a memento.

SilverBride · August 2

This thread really made me think. So I went around to all my houses and removed any trophies and busts from all but the Coldharbour Surreal Estate that I built specifically to display these. I didn't have any in most of my houses anyway but the ones that did really didn't fit the theme of the house and I think they look more homey without them.

I did leave all the busts that I used to fill in the alcoves in the walls at the Grand Psijic Villa though because they look like little golden statues and fit the theme of the house well.

Jaraal · August 2

When indriks first came out, I turned one into a trophy. It scares the bejesus out of some people when it moves it's head, lol

Oznog666 · August 2

You put an Indrik into the wall? What a great housing idea, will jump asap in one of my houses to try this out

ESO_player123 · August 2

Jaraal wrote: »

When indriks first came out, I turned one into a trophy. It scares the bejesus out of some people when it moves it's head, lol

Well, since the topic of this thread is "human heads", anyone tried this with, say, Bastian?

Sorry, could not resist.

fedouva · August 2

It would be illogical to just take these trophies away from players, maybe some people like it.

prof-dracko · August 2

fedouva wrote: »

It would be illogical to just take these trophies away from players, maybe some people like it.

I agree they shouldn't remove existing content. I know this fits the aesthetic of some players. I'm just joining OP in voicing my displeasure and hoping ZOS puts more thought into it moving forward.

colossalvoids · August 2

If this strikes you violent you should have a second thought about playing the game about killing people and all kinds of creatures left and right as it's main gameplay loop. If fantasy media makes you uncomfortable you can always disengage as it's just a media, not irl. Trophies are fine, you can view them however you want be it wax replication or an actual taxidermy, or not use them at all if that's not something you're into.

Meanwhile I demand my headhunter belt from poe here in some way, it's just looking badass.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · August 2

They are not the actual heads of the creatures you kill, they are likely made from wax.

Proof look at how small the Lady Thorn and Lord Fargravn Heads are, now look how big a Vampire Lord is, still would not hang them up in my house though, whoever lines their houses with heads thinking it somehow looks good clearly has no taste for decor.

Tommy_The_Gun · August 2

This is how dragons feel in pretty much every game/movie/book/universe.

Not so pleasant, right ?

GuuMoonRyoung · August 2

Welcome to elder scrolls, a game with history of brutality, nudity and ultra violence. Enjoy your stay.

prof-dracko · August 2

If they added a craftsman NPC to the Undaunted enclaves who explicitly states their job is crafting wax replica trophies of worthy foes then I'd immediately be fine with it. Saying that, there is some evidence it's actual remains. The questgiver in Fang Lair states outright that the Undaunted practice necromancy, with the monster set masks and shoulders being an example of that. If they're scavenging parts to make armor I don't see why they wouldn't just take whole heads for decoration.

spartaxoxo · August 2

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

They are not the actual heads of the creatures you kill, they are likely made from wax.

Proof look at how small the Lady Thorn and Lord Fargravn Heads are, now look how big a Vampire Lord is, still would not hang them up in my house though, whoever lines their houses with heads thinking it somehow looks good clearly has no taste for decor.

Yeah, IMO the heads are replicas given to you by the undaunted to celebrate your victory. They look too clean to be the real deal. But others may view it differently. Just my take

Syldras · August 2

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Well, since the topic of this thread is "human heads", anyone tried this with, say, Bastian?

I actually did try it with Sharp as a joke (no malice intended), because - https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:The_Head_Of_Scourge , but he moves too much. Same probably also goes for the other companions.
Also, I'm not willing to waste a useful "guest" by letting them stand behind a wall and putting their head through a hole the whole day. A Telvanni has better things to do.

Syldras · August 2

prof-dracko wrote: »

If they added a craftsman NPC to the Undaunted enclaves who explicitly states their job is crafting wax replica trophies of worthy foes then I'd immediately be fine with it. Saying that, there is some evidence it's actual remains. The questgiver in Fang Lair states outright that the Undaunted practice necromancy, with the monster set masks and shoulders being an example of that. If they're scavenging parts to make armor I don't see why they wouldn't just take whole heads for decoration.

Also, the item descriptions for the heads all say "trophy taken from...".

JiubLeRepenti · August 2

I can't believe I'm reading so many first degree posts that agree with OP

Did you guys forget that you could litterally behead ppl in Skyrim?

This is a video game. Plus, in this case, you don't even see a single drop of blood nor flesh. How can you seriously say you've "never seen such ultra violence in games"? Do you only play Mario games ? What games are you playing to? For next step are you guys going to complain about the fact that we have to hit ennemies ingame?

Or maybe I'm just getting trolled (at least I hope so.

I don't want to sound sarcastic nor disrespectful but I seriously wonder how it is possible to get offended/hurt by this...

Small tip: don't play to Skyrim.

DinoZavr · August 2

Excuse me, but what body part but the head would you suggest to exhibit?

Tensar · August 2

Wow what is this community of newborns? The funny thing is that most people here are very old

Syldras · August 2

Tensar wrote: »

Wow what is this community of newborns? The funny thing is that most people here are very old

Maybe people tend to develop a refined taste when getting older instead of yelling "Woah!! Coool!!!! So brutal!!" when they see some tacky head on a wall

Also, finding something bad taste, ugly or tacky doesn't equal being offended or hurt. It's totally weird to me that some people don't seem to understand that for many people who dislike these things it's not about being afraid of brutality or something. It's totally this:

prof-dracko wrote: »

There's a narrative difference between what's happening out in the world and the actions of NPCs in the stories and what my character is implied to be doing in acquiring these trophies. Reachmen can grow briarheart trees and Daedra can kill and torture, that's just what they do. But my character would not rip the head off a man and nail it to a piece of wood to hang on his wall.

and this:

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

whoever lines their houses with heads thinking it somehow looks good clearly has no taste for decor.

Soarora · August 2

prof-dracko wrote: »

If they added a craftsman NPC to the Undaunted enclaves who explicitly states their job is crafting wax replica trophies of worthy foes then I'd immediately be fine with it. Saying that, there is some evidence it's actual remains. The questgiver in Fang Lair states outright that the Undaunted practice necromancy, with the monster set masks and shoulders being an example of that. If they're scavenging parts to make armor I don't see why they wouldn't just take whole heads for decoration.

Now that you mention the monster masks… the masks typically ARE the enemy’s head. So… how can you wear their head and also put their head on your wall? One of them has to be fake… or its a plot hole. Though honestly, I feel like wearing the head is even worse than putting it on the wall. Have you seen Domihaus’ mask?? Scary. Used it for Halloween haha.

Syldras · August 2

Soarora wrote: »

Now that you mention the monster masks… the masks typically ARE the enemy’s head. So… how can you wear their head and also put their head on your wall?

So the thing to put on the wall is no trophy but something like a hat/mask stand?

Soarora wrote: »

One of them has to be fake… or its a plot hole.

In Tamriel, the continent of ToT, the both brandnew and ages old and traditional card game, everything is possible!

Soarora wrote: »

Though honestly, I feel like wearing the head is even worse than putting it on the wall.

Wearing a head or carrying it on a belt sounds "remote native tribe from some jungle" media cliché somehow. Actually Bosmer lore totally fits that trope, too, with them being really short and cannibalistic, having rather primitive furniture and clothing and all that...

Although there have been tribes who made masks of human skulls and skin in reality, too. It was very common in Oceania, especially Papua New Guinea.

That said, the "Western" cultures, while deeming themselves more "civilized", weren't neccearily less creepy. Otherwise we wouldn't have this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropodermic_bibliopegy
Or the use of human body parts as "medicine" which ranged from collecting and drinking the blood of beheaded criminals in the Middle Ages (which was considered to be helpful against all kind of diseases from epilepsy to tuberculosis) to pulverizing mummies to consume the powder, which still happened until the 1920's (there was a real mummy craze at the beginning of the 20th century, and the powder was also used as a pigment for painting, btw).

So the next time you eat a falmer ear or a giant toe as an alchemy ingredient - it's not as unrealistic or absurd as it might seem at first glance.

SilverBride · August 2

fedouva wrote: »

It would be illogical to just take these trophies away from players, maybe some people like it.

The OP didn't ask for them to be removed from the game.

prof-dracko · August 2

DinoZavr wrote: »

Excuse me, but what body part but the head would you suggest to exhibit?

I'm going to list all of the trophies taken from an enemy that could be considered sentient and suggest an alternative or alteration from the dungeon. For the sake of argument I'll exclude anything undead, even if they were once human, since they're prolonged artificially and essentially monsters and Daedra since they can't truly die permanently, so displaying the husk they used to inhabit is more or less fine.

Oathsworn Pit: Could have been a vine-tangled axe representing Anthelmir's Construct

Earthen Root: Corruption of Root

March of Sacrifices: Tachyr (you know, the thing you were hunting. That you take a heart from. AS A TROPHY!)

Moongrave Fane: Kujo Kethba the gargoyle

Depths of Malatar: Should have been Narilmoor's transformed form

Castle Thorn: Vaduroth the Wraith-of-Crows

Kyne's Aegis: Captain Vrol's helm on a plinth

Icereach: Stormborn Revenant

Red Petal Bastion: Prior Thierric's helm and chest plate on a stand

Scalecaller Peak: Either make it clear that it's just Zaan's mask taken as a trophy or even Spellbreaker on a plaque

Moon Hunter Keep: Vykosa's pauldrons?

Cloudrest: Z'Maja's amulet

ArchMikem · August 2

I honestly couldn't tell if this was sarcasm or not, especially when OP claimed this was "ultra violence".

You're playing a game where your character snuffs out thousands of lives, but the Undaunted Trophies is the line?

LaintalAy · August 2

Jaraal wrote: »

Well, since the topic of this thread is "human heads", anyone tried this with, say, Bastian?

Sorry, could not resist.

Finally, a sensible post.

LaintalAy · August 2

DinoZavr wrote: »

Excuse me, but what body part but the head would you suggest to exhibit?

Try reading the whole thread.
We covered codpieces already.

Grimmhawk · August 2

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

It's cool when it's all sorts of monsters and other creatures. Right? But for the love of all the gods, what is this?

Trophies made of human heads, you made trophies of human heads. I've never seen such ultra-violence in games.

Back in the day ,when UO was one of the top MMOS. If you killed someone in PvP ,you could use a dagger to cut off their head as a trophy. So ,that is pretty tame ,lol.

Tryxus · August 2

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

They are not the actual heads of the creatures you kill, they are likely made from wax.