Molag Ball polymorph

garir_komes_molroy

What do you think about this polymorph, especially its legs? I understand when the lich polymorph or the Harrowing Reaper polymorph came out, it's probably impossible to make a hovering/levitating polymorph like manenas for bashing because of the engine. But molag ball is not a levitating creature.

P.S this polymorph fell out of the box that was given after the release of the chapter if you bought the chapter

Below is an example of the original and polymorph:

Soarora

I feel like it shouldn’t have been made to begin with, but most crown crate things aren’t lore friendly either I suppose.

Syldras

Soarora wrote: »

I feel like it shouldn’t have been made to begin with, but most crown crate things aren’t lore friendly either I suppose.

To remain lorefriendly, people who use this polymorph should be constantly mudballed where ever they go.

LunaFlora

the player character has a different skeleton than Bal so the polymorph can't have the same legs sadly.

it seems fine though. it's just magical cosplay

alternatelder

There's a @&!$ Molag polymorph for characters now?? Why? This is the stupidest thing. The dumb things they put in the game push it farther and farther from lore friendly that I regret every dollar I keep putting into eso+ sub.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

It's disappointing that such polymorphs are in the game.

I've got my mud ball pouch quick slotted.

Finedaible

I'm not sure why we are celebrating the primary villain, the god of... well, you know.

RaikaNA

Finedaible wrote: »

I'm not sure why we are celebrating the primary villain, the god of... well, you know.

I agree... I honestly don't know why ZOS even did that to begin with.. What's next? Hermaeus Mora poloymorh or Mehrunes Dagon?

I don't see a nessassary reason to be adding Daedra princes and turning them into playable polymorphs. It seems... ackward.

Syldras

RaikaNA wrote: »

I agree... I honestly don't know why ZOS even did that to begin with.. What's next? Hermaeus Mora poloymorh or Mehrunes Dagon?
I don't see a nessassary reason to be adding Daedra princes and turning them into playable polymorphs. It seems... ackward.

I already found adding one-of-a-kind clothing or adornments of important npcs to the store a bad idea (like Almalexia's costume and mask) because in my opinion they lose significance if everyone can run around clothed like that. But this polymorph now? Even worse. With clothing of "positive" figures one could at least argue that people imitate them out of admiration (speaking from a rp/lore perspective, why people of Tamriel would like to dress like, let's say, Almalexia or Ayrenn), as it also happened in real life sometimes, but why would the average person want to run through town looking like Molag Bal - with no one taking offense in it? It just doesn't make any sense. I really wish ZOS would take that more seriously.

Also, some users (including myself) have criticized before that the stories and the world often lack seriousness, with no real threats, important characters rarely dying, etc, so they're often not exactly emotionally engaging. Someone compared it to feeling more like a big theme park - certainly entertaining, but with no real feeling of danger or urgency. Having Molag Bal polymorphs run around everywhere contributes even more to that.

Hapexamendios

I want to do a trial with 12 Molags

dinokstrunz

sheesh

Soarora

Hapexamendios wrote: »

I want to do a trial with 12 Molags

Should do Sanity's Edge because the ability to be Molag Bal with a Molag Bal pet with a Molag Bal mount while fighting Molag Bal is bringing me to the edge of my sanity.

SpiritKitten

This is where ESO has finally jumped the shark.

Eternalscourge1

If ypu have the new radiant shackled titan plus molag bal, apparently you get dark anchor effects while mounted

Fischblut

edit: I played some more, trying to imagine all these suggestions in my gameplay, and I made few little edits here about Break Free/ultimates voice

Finally I have some time to write more feedback about this polymorph I doubt that there will be any other version, and there are some missed opportunities with Molag Bal Illusion. Hopefully, designers will see this and please consider adding some things to this unique cosmetic item for perfection!

First of all, positive feedback: I like it very much as it is. Just this one item actually inspired me to resume playing ESO for more than just daily Endeavors. I started participating in dungeons and PvP again And when my character has Xivkyn polymorph equipped, it's extra fun to use /offerweapon or /bow emote to someone who is wearing Molag Bal polymorph!

Normal legs allow all kinds of fun with it thanks to combinations of emotes/mementos/personalities!









Details on body are fascinating:



I can even roleplay as Xenomorph sometimes:



Using companions and assistants has new meaning with this polymorph, because they all serve the Daedric prince now (and their happy faces are priceless). Ember feels cheerful while being overlooked by Dark Lord:



I would post some more situations with them, but the forum needs to be rated +21 for those.

Now, feedback about imperfections.
The most disappointing thing (and the most easy to fix, I think) is lack of certain laughter variant. It is sometimes used when Dremora summons portal for Scamps:

https://youtu.be/ZjRMo0Bx3Nw

It's rare to hear it, and I've spent hours trying to record particularly this variant. I really love this, and it could be used as voice for using damaging Ultimates, or/and voice for Break Free ability.
Current "Break Free" action scream is rather weak - it should be longer and with more anger in it. Also, the voice for this action is still bugged for about 2 years now, so you can only hear proper "Break Free" vocalizations when you use Dawnbreaker ultimate.

This polymorph has no voice for "giddy up" voice line for mount control

It also has no voice for angry emotes, no voice for mount whistle. No voice for performing heavy attacks.

It's strange that the mouth of this polymorph is completely static, while actual Molag Bal in game can move his jaws.

There is no special visuals and sounds for death and resurrection... And when character is brought back to life, he/she still performs humanoid gasp - not fitting to the image at all. Death could add blue flame effect and special sound, same as when Daedra are killed at Dark Anchors.

Basically, that's all which should really be fixed in this cosmetic item - in my opinion.

And just for extra fun, I think it would be awesome if there were some special voice lines added to some actions/emotes when you use this polymorph. I don't know if the voice actor performed some new lines for this polymorph, but there are enough existing quotes in the game to use
For example, our characters could say "That which is eternal can never die." when defeated.
And say "I am the face of pain!" when entering combat.
Say "Fight for me." when commanding Companion/combat pet to attack the enemy.
Say "May your soul burn." when activating damaging Ultimate ability.
Say "You anger a powerful enemy!" when using /angry emote.

Detailed showcase video:

https://youtu.be/1z0KcF52iKk

In perfect case, in addition to what we already have, I would like to have another version of Molag Bal polymorph, with more alien-like legs. It would need to have custom animations and emotes (maybe together with suggested voice lines), and it would be awesome for roleplay if all creatures related to his realm would become non-hostile (neutral, so they can be attacked and can fight back) if player wears Molag Bal polymorph

alternatelder

I still mudball every single person I see wearing this ridiculous polymorph, and I won't stop.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

alternatelder wrote: »

I still mudball every single person I see wearing this ridiculous polymorph, and I won't stop.

I've got my mudball pouch quickslotted just for this as well.

Jaraal

I got the crate package with the recall, and pulled this polymorph with the very first crate I opened. I'll never use it, however, as it's the most cheesiest thing I could possibly imagine being in the game. I thought the Molag Bal pet was a lore disgrace, but seeing people cosplaying the Daedric prince that killed them and took their soul, complete with their mini-me is a mockery of immersion, and trivializes the entire game story.

Walking around any big city has become the equivalent of visiting a traveling carnival while overdosing on skooma, complete with feeted liches, robots, rainbow spriggans, portable personal Daedric anchors, exploding mounts and day-glo pets. All we need now is a clown polymorph to make it complete. Or at least put some of those special glasses from "They Live" into crown crates, so we can go back to seeing things as they really are.

Lapin_Logic

Syldras wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

I feel like it shouldn’t have been made to begin with, but most crown crate things aren’t lore friendly either I suppose.

To remain lorefriendly, people who use this polymorph should be constantly mudballed where ever they go.

Townsfolk "AHH a werewolf/necromancer"
Also Townsfolk *sees Sorc spawn daedra, then polymorph into Molag Bal or a Xyvkyn* "I have many fine goods for sale"

Syldras

Lapin_Logic wrote: »

Townsfolk "AHH a werewolf/necromancer"
Also Townsfolk *sees Sorc spawn daedra, then polymorph into Molag Bal or a Xyvkyn* "I have many fine goods for sale"

This topic turns up at the forum once a month or so. From my point of view, it's nonsensical enough as it is. There's no need to introduce even more extreme polymorphs and effects, but...

Jaraal wrote: »

Walking around any big city has become the equivalent of visiting a traveling carnival while overdosing on skooma, complete with feeted liches, robots, rainbow spriggans, portable personal Daedric anchors, exploding mounts and day-glo pets. All we need now is a clown polymorph to make it complete.

...unfortunately, ZOS doesn't seem to value their own lore, worldbuilding and in-narration logic.

SilverBride

It should be a criminal offense to be in town as Molag Bal. The same with the dark anchor recall. Why are the guards allowing this?

katanagirl1

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

I still mudball every single person I see wearing this ridiculous polymorph, and I won't stop.

I've got my mudball pouch quickslotted just for this as well.

I was waiting for a world boss in West Weald and saw a guy on the other side of the boss picking up the quest items. He finally saw me, came over and started mudballing me, thinking I was afk. He was wearing the Molag Bal polymorph. As I was dismounting to eat some food and get ready to fight this boss regardless, he hit me with one too many mud balls and I mounted and rode away for him to try to solo the boss. Lol.

I generally like the polymorph but I hate mud balls. It does look strange to see Molag Bal as my same height everywhere.

SpiritKitten

All sense of immersion has left this game. I'll stay for the lolz, but ESO has lost its magic.

JonesFPS

Some of you guys taking a "game" way to serious xD
And i bet all of you that mudball the Molag Bals out the are the first to cry out if they get T-bagged or mudballed constantely.

The whole premise of beeing lore-friendly is out of the window as soon as you log into the game and every one is the one and only hero.

I like the Polymorph and the mini non combat pet, and im sure many more do enjoy them as well.

Syldras

JonesFPS wrote: »

Some of you guys taking a "game" way to serious xD
And i bet all of you that mudball the Molag Bals out the are the first to cry out if they get T-bagged or mudballed constantely.

Actually I think getting mudballed or called out in-character is fine, if it makes sense lorewise. I don't mind it at all. Although the funniest thing that happened to me was was being chased around town by someone playing a Temple Ordinator (using a lorefriendly Dunmer name and ordinator costume) trying to arrest me. No, I won't tell you what I had done. But his reaction made sense and I played along.

JonesFPS wrote: »

The whole premise of beeing lore-friendly is out of the window as soon as you log into the game and every one is the one and only hero.

Other heroes? Where? I never see any. Are you really implying that the lice-infested Breton pestering the banker is some kind of hero? Or the scantily clad doll-faced Altmer lady? Or the Redguard wearing pink armour and riding a bear made of glowing green jelly? Or any of those weird orcs that parade around in the white wedding dress of their latest wife (must be some Orcish cultural tradition I'm not aware of)?

Sepultura_13

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

I still mudball every single person I see wearing this ridiculous polymorph, and I won't stop.

I've got my mudball pouch quickslotted just for this as well.

Same here. For me, tossing a mudball at someone with a racist character / account name is the equivalent of smearing them with excrement - in other words, very much deserved!

Jaraal wrote: »

Walking around any big city has become the equivalent of visiting a traveling carnival while overdosing on skooma, complete with feeted liches, robots, rainbow spriggans, portable personal Daedric anchors, exploding mounts and day-glo pets. All we need now is a clown polymorph to make it complete.

Syldras wrote: »

Other heroes? Where? I never see any. Are you really implying that the lice-infested Breton pestering the banker is some kind of hero? Or the scantily clad doll-faced Altmer lady? Or the Redguard wearing pink armour and riding a bear made of glowing green jelly? Or any of those weird orcs that parade around in the white wedding dress of their latest wife (must be some Orcish cultural tradition I'm not aware of)?

Couldn't have stated it better, myself...these quotes say everything.

Holycannoli

LunaFlora wrote: »

the player character has a different skeleton than Bal so the polymorph can't have the same legs sadly.

it seems fine though. it's just magical cosplay

No, when my character puts it on he really is Molag Bal, running around Vivec crafting rubedo hide armor.

Fischblut

I couldn't install PTS earlier, so only today I've learned about possible horrible changes to this polymorph which might go live soon Everyone who owns and loves this polymorph as it is, hear how the iconic villain identity was taken away on PTS:

https://vk.com/video872636186_456239017

This is very nice voice for some other evil polymorph in future, but it's not acceptable for Molag Bal. In ESO, we have only one voice which is famous and recognized as part of his character

I hoped for improvements such as few additional voice lines as mentioned in my earlier post in this thread, but not for replacement.

Personally for me, even getting 400 gems back as refund - if this awful change goes live - would not fix anything... This unusual polymorph inspires everything I do in the game now, it's not just some generic creature like all other polymorphs. It can't be replaced by anything else, and we won't get any other version of this polymorph. Please, don't ruin what fun we already have with this cosmetic item!