We should get Account Wide quests.

colossalvoids · June 4

It's so bizarre that I guess we might actually have that later on lol.

Tandor · June 4

I suppose the next call will be for everything to be shared across a player's multiple accounts.

No thanks to any more things going account-wide, we've already gone too far in that direction.

Aurielle · June 4

SilverBride wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

I love how everyone screaming no completely missed the optional nature of your suggestion.

I didn't miss it. I just don't think that "optional" automatically makes any suggestion a good one.

How would it affect you if my alts — who wouldn’t do the quests again anyway, as they live in Cyrodiil — have the option of gaining access to the skill points my main has?

Having quests automatically complete on all our alts would create problems, such as what to do with the hundreds of quest rewards earned from doing these. Mailing them to the player wouldn't work due to the sheer number of them.

And it doesn't make sense for alts to benefit from all the rewards and skill points another character earned, for zones they never even quested in.

Many of the main story and zone quest rewards are account-bound anyway… Costumes and mementos and whatnot. Most of us don’t care about the quest rewards besides the skill points. Perhaps the skill point itself could be tied to the achievement, rather than the quest completion? Zone quest achievements are already account-bound as it is. There’d be no need to mail anything.

Why does it not make sense to streamline things for alts, for those who want the option? My characters are just alternate roles for PVP. I don’t care about their individual journeys as characters. I slog out every quest on my main character, and have zero desire to do it all over again on my alts. I’d rather spend my time in game playing the content I prefer. You could always turn it off if it didn’t make sense to you.

zaria · June 4

No, that would not let you replay quests on alts.

Now for some stuff like companions you could have an option like the Cyrodil introduction quest where you can skip playing with siege equipment if you done the companion quest before.

Aurielle · June 4

Tandor wrote: »

I suppose the next call will be for everything to be shared across a player's multiple accounts.

No thanks to any more things going account-wide, we've already gone too far in that direction.

As OP stated, it would be optional. This is a ten year old game at this point, with thousands upon thousands of quests available. Grinding through all of them on multiple alts just for the skill points becomes more daunting with each new update.

If shared quest completion is a bridge too far for you folks, why not just tie skill points to the quest achievements that are ALREADY account-wide? Have them unlock at level 50, if we’re concerned about sub CP-level characters being too powerful. And give a toggle in settings for those who want their alts to earn the skill points the hard way. This would satisfy everyone and make rolling a new alt less painful.

Aurielle · June 4

zaria wrote: »

No, that would not let you replay quests on alts.

It would if it was optional, as proposed by the OP.

Deserrick · June 4

oMrRust wrote: »

my understanding so far is that I'd need to do all these scribe quests on each toon eventually.

If you mean to change the state of the world, yes they would; but if you mean to gain the gameplay benefits, then they only need to do the introductory quest. I like these account-wide quest rewards, since they give the gameplay benefit while allowing the option to replay on another character for story or roleplay, and I would like if every quest that confers a gameplay benefit is given the same treatment.

Elyu · June 4

Yes.

Simple compromise for those saying no; have it be a toggle-able option that is "off" by default.

If off: No account-wide achievements, skyshards + skill lines + collectibles not shared between characters
Option for achievements only.

And option 3: full account-wide sharing (achievements, skyshards, and if you unlock initial quest of a skill-line, the skill line too.

Elsonso · June 4

I would prefer that they simply turn off the ability to make alts.

TybaltKaine · June 4

None of those things are going to happen as long as ZOS makes money selling short cuts on the crown store.

To answer the question, no, because the functionality for skips already exists. It costs money.

You want account wide skill points? Exists in the crown store.

Account wide skill line progression? Exists in the crown store.

What you are essentially asking for is the ability to not play the game. Quests exist on a per character basis because that is how MMO's, how most quest-based games, work.

Tornaad · June 4

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

NO!

I do every quest on every character and I love every minute of it. I would be extremely upset if this was no longer possible.

Every quest in the game?

I will eventually go through every quest in the game with each of my characters. I have one character for each class.

noblecron · June 4

For certain things yeah I'd be for it. Like the new scribing for instance

licenturion · June 4

I wonder all the people saying NO, if they listen to all the voice acting and choose all the dialog options every time they play a quest for the 9th time with an alt.

Just genuine curiosity...

Gamerscape2007 · June 4

What you are essentially asking for is the ability to not play the game.

What people are asking for is not jumping hoops after hoops for other alt character just to use certain features or rewards. Not the player fault that progression in this game is as shallow as it is abysmal, especially with alt characters.

Quests exist on a per character basis because that is how MMO's, how most quest-based games, work.

Most people speedrun mmo Quests on alts because they want to get to the progression that matters. Even if it how it work, it doesn't mean it's a good system in today's standard. Again, look at guild wars 2 and how it handle progression.

TaSheen · June 4

Elsonso wrote: »

I would prefer that they simply turn off the ability to make alts.

No thank you. That's the best thing about this game for me.

AzuraFan · June 4

Absolutely not. The only reason I occasionally play an alt is to go through a zone story again. I wouldn't agree even if it was optional. Being able to opt out of huge amounts of the game's content doesn't seem to be a smart move for longevity of the game.

If it's a PvP issue, ZOS should come up with a solution that would allow players to quickly get a fully-leveled character with the appropriate skills and sets (this character would be PvP-only).

LalMirchi · June 4

Respectfully and absolutely no.

CameraBeardThePirate · June 4

I was all for account wide achievements, but quests make up the majority of content in this game. If you make those account wide, then there'd be very little point for the vast majority of players (i.e. casual questers) to ever make more than 1 character.

Tandor · June 4

Aurielle wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I suppose the next call will be for everything to be shared across a player's multiple accounts.

No thanks to any more things going account-wide, we've already gone too far in that direction.

As OP stated, it would be optional. This is a ten year old game at this point, with thousands upon thousands of quests available. Grinding through all of them on multiple alts just for the skill points becomes more daunting with each new update.

If shared quest completion is a bridge too far for you folks, why not just tie skill points to the quest achievements that are ALREADY account-wide? Have them unlock at level 50, if we’re concerned about sub CP-level characters being too powerful. And give a toggle in settings for those who want their alts to earn the skill points the hard way. This would satisfy everyone and make rolling a new alt less painful.

I fully realise the OP mentioned this being optional, but that doesn't change my view that it would be bad for the game.

As for "grinding through all of them on multiple alts just for the skill points becomes more daunting with each new update", each new update adds more skill points and you can also buy them for your alts on the Crown Store if that's what's important to you, there is no need to complete all the quests in the game just to get skill points, if you don't want to do all the quests on all your characters then don't do them.

And therein lies the real answer to the OP's suggestion. Forget the fact that the suggestion to avoid having to repeat all the quests would be optional (that can't be relied on, it wasn't with some other things the way they were implemented), having to repeat all the quests in the first place is optional in itself. As such, the suggestion is therefore entirely unnecessary.

ESO_player123 · June 4

NO.

Aurielle · June 4

AzuraFan wrote: »

Absolutely not. The only reason I occasionally play an alt is to go through a zone story again. I wouldn't agree even if it was optional. Being able to opt out of huge amounts of the game's content doesn't seem to be a smart move for longevity of the game.

If it's a PvP issue, ZOS should come up with a solution that would allow players to quickly get a fully-leveled character with the appropriate skills and sets (this character would be PvP-only).

And the only reason why I play an alt is to farm transmute stones and play another role in PVP. I like doing quests, don’t get me wrong. But I don’t like doing the same thing over and over again. ESO isn’t a traditional RPG where your dialogue options consistently lead to different outcomes, or you can play a “sassy” character or “goody two shoes” character. Quests are pretty much the same every time. It’s boring (to me).

Options are always nice.

Tandor wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I suppose the next call will be for everything to be shared across a player's multiple accounts.

No thanks to any more things going account-wide, we've already gone too far in that direction.

As OP stated, it would be optional. This is a ten year old game at this point, with thousands upon thousands of quests available. Grinding through all of them on multiple alts just for the skill points becomes more daunting with each new update.

If shared quest completion is a bridge too far for you folks, why not just tie skill points to the quest achievements that are ALREADY account-wide? Have them unlock at level 50, if we’re concerned about sub CP-level characters being too powerful. And give a toggle in settings for those who want their alts to earn the skill points the hard way. This would satisfy everyone and make rolling a new alt less painful.

I fully realise the OP mentioned this being optional, but that doesn't change my view that it would be bad for the game.

As for "grinding through all of them on multiple alts just for the skill points becomes more daunting with each new update", each new update adds more skill points and you can also buy them for your alts on the Crown Store if that's what's important to you, there is no need to complete all the quests in the game just to get skill points, if you don't want to do all the quests on all your characters then don't do them.

And therein lies the real answer to the OP's suggestion. Forget the fact that the suggestion to avoid having to repeat all the quests would be optional (that can't be relied on, it wasn't with some other things the way they were implemented), having to repeat all the quests in the first place is optional in itself. As such, the suggestion is therefore entirely unnecessary.

Sorry, but I’m not spending thousands of crowns for a quality of life feature that should have been implemented a long time ago. As things currently stand, I just collect skyshards for my alts to deal with my need for skill points. But it’s ridiculous… I have literal hundreds of extra available skill points on my main that I couldn’t possibly ever use, while I have to endure the tedium of finding skyshards I’ve already found over and over again for my alts. At the very least, tie zone story skill points to the account-wide achievements. It’s not as large a number of skill points as, say, skyshards.

Dojohoda · June 4

I wasn't for account-wide achievements and I wouldn't want account-wide quest completion either.

However, I could imagine that if the interest were high enough, they might consider adding this in the crown store in a similar way as the zone skyshards.

Elsonso · June 4

TybaltKaine wrote: »

None of those things are going to happen as long as ZOS makes money selling short cuts on the crown store.

To answer the question, no, because the functionality for skips already exists. It costs money.

You want account wide skill points? Exists in the crown store.

Account wide skill line progression? Exists in the crown store.

I hear the monetary angle a lot. I am sure that people do buy this stuff in the Crown Store. I don't believe that the bypasses are as big as other items in the Crown Store, like loot boxes, cosmetics, and houses.

Honestly, I can't imagine people staying super excited at the idea of them selling another bypass. ZOS can put a new costume, house, or crown crate up for sale, and I think there will be players tripping over things trying to get to the computer to buy more crowns.

TaSheen wrote: »

Elsonso wrote: »

I would prefer that they simply turn off the ability to make alts.

No thank you. That's the best thing about this game for me.

Same here, but if alts are just going to be a new "Mini Me", what's the point?

SilverBride · June 4

I remember the huge backlash when Account Wide Achievements was implemented. I believe this would be even worse.

Many of us play our alts as separate characters, not just mindless chore workers. I have one character of each class except Warden (2 Sorcerers because they are set up for different purposes) and they each have their own way of playing and their own personal homes and are played as individuals.

Account Wide Achievements wasn't made optional even though we asked repeatedly. What are the odds that this suggestion would be?

Besides this suggestion has little backing so far and I don't see that changing.

Soarora · June 4

I do want to be able to replay quests on characters who have done them, but I also do not want account-wide questing… besides, unlocking scribing on each character takes like 5 minutes. Its only long once.

ArchangelIsraphel · June 4

SilverBride wrote: »

I remember the huge backlash when Account Wide Achievements was implemented. I believe this would be even worse.

Many of us play our alts as separate characters, not just mindless chore workers. I have one character of each class except Warden (2 Sorcerers because they are set up for different purposes) and they each have their own way of playing and their own personal homes and are played as individuals.

Account Wide Achievements wasn't made optional even though we asked repeatedly. What are the odds that this suggestion would be?

Besides this suggestion has little backing so far and I don't see that changing.

Agreed! This is exactly why we object to account wide quests.

It isn't that we don't understand where others are coming from with their desire for the feature.

The truth is that although the people requesting it may say "but it will be optional" you can't know that ZOS would choose to make it optional.

Experience has shown us that ZOS often does not implement requests in the way players invision. Asking for such a feature to be optional does not mean it will be.

Thus, in order to protect the quest and rp side of the game, which is a major draw for most players, we object to the request on the condition that support will only be provided if we have assurance that the feature will truly be optional.

We do not have that garuntee. So until then, I reiterate: No.

Aurielle · June 4

SilverBride wrote: »

I remember the huge backlash when Account Wide Achievements was implemented. I believe this would be even worse.

Many of us play our alts as separate characters, not just mindless chore workers. I have one character of each class except Warden (2 Sorcerers because they are set up for different purposes) and they each have their own way of playing and their own personal homes and are played as individuals.

Account Wide Achievements wasn't made optional even though we asked repeatedly. What are the odds that this suggestion would be?

Besides this suggestion has little backing so far and I don't see that changing.

And many of us play our alts as … well, alts. I feel no need to repeat all the quests my main has done on an alt who exists solely to help with writs and heal in Cyrodiil, or an alt that exists solely to farm Tel Var. They all share the same house, because I couldn’t be bothered to waste time and gold on decorating a house for an alt when I could be having fun in Cyrodiil. We all play the game differently and all have different needs and areas of the game into which we sink our time.

The option to share zone quest skill points with alts, at the very least, would be very much appreciated by those of us who spend most of our time PVPing. It wouldn’t affect your playstyle in the slightest, but it would bring some sorely needed QOL improvements to ours.

SilverBride · June 4

Aurielle wrote: »

I feel no need to repeat all the quests my main has done on an alt who exists solely to help with writs and heal in Cyrodiil, or an alt that exists solely to farm Tel Var.

We can't create an alt and expect them to be fully developed no matter what their purpose is to be. This is a RP game and all characters are meant to be developed.

They have skill lines that can be purchased and wayshrines etc., but quests are an entirely different story.

amapola76 · June 4

Aurielle wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

I love how everyone screaming no completely missed the optional nature of your suggestion.

I didn't miss it. I just don't think that "optional" automatically makes any suggestion a good one.

How would it affect you if my alts — who wouldn’t do the quests again anyway, as they live in Cyrodiil — have the option of gaining access to the skill points my main has?

Because some of us have been around long enough to know that ZOS tends to be a blunt instrument, and if this system were ever implemented, it is highly unlikely that it would actually be optional.

redlink1979 · June 4

Please no.