10th Anniversary in-game aftertaste: What's your impression in total?

BlueRaven

The worst event ever. I hate everything in it.

MasterSpatula wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

old_scopie1945 wrote: »

Just glad it is over. It was just a soul destroying grindfest.

Rest up. Scribing is also being described in a similar way to “a soul destroying grindfest” on the PTS, but slower with expensive price tags.

Maybe so, but at least the ability won't expire if you don't grind it out in a couple of weeks. Nor will it be entirely RNG based, at least as far as I understand.

Just read this…

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/657506/scribing-is-going-to-render-the-community-insane-and-not-in-the-positive-way/p1

Nharimlur_Finor

Other

I didn't expect much.
I wasn't disappointed.

I went from around CP60 to over 500, so can't complain there.

BenevolentBowd

It was OK, but some parts were unpleasant.

As someone who loves to do crafting writs, this normally would be my favourite event of the year. The bonus rewards from doing the writs did offer up a lot of juicy rewards to restock the craft bag with rarer mats like nirncrux, perfect roe, and if you were lucky a cipher or Aetherial dust. The purple provisioning recipes were awesome for the new batch of crafting writ minions.

As always, the double xp is a great time to finish off all those sealed writs collecting dust and levelling new characters. I did this on my xbox account.

However, I did find this event extra grindy trying to farm the style pages. After hours of farming, I only got two of the style pages. At least I got a lot of jewelry and fighters guild rep on one of my new characters at the dolmens but otherwise it didn't feel very rewarding for the amount of limited play time invested.

Dawnblade

The worst event ever. I hate everything in it.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi All, just wanted to take the time and thank everyone who provided constructive feedback and anecdotal feedback. The team is aware of many of the good points and pain points mentioned in this thread already, but we'll make sure they have this thread as well as the poll and commentary is good to review as we look to improve the event for next year.

The design of the event most players had an issue with (ridiculously low drop rate bound style pages locked to very specific and over-crowed areas, several of which also meant losing out on basic reward boxes due to the idiotic loot qualification system) was purposeful, not some honest mistake.

Also - show, don't tell.

For example, ZOS told us we would get 2 extra days for the colossal PTS screw-up.

Instead, we lost the last day due to maintenance and not even an 'ooops, we are sorry' apology.

LunaFlora

It was OK, but some parts were unpleasant.

got a new favourite horse, got hundreds of furniture materials, got new motifs and furniture plans: good.

got none of the special style pages i wanted: sad.
i only got Barbas and I wouldn't use that.
i probably did hundreds of Geysers, Nilthogs, and Dark Anchors for the staff styles i wanted.

edited to add: got Barbas' helmet style, of course not the dog himself

Araneae6537

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

code65536 wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

The number of useless gold style pages was terrible. By the third day you couldn't give them away.

No, I think that was a nice touch, actually. Sure, for people who have been here every year, getting copies of the previous years' pages would likely seem pointless, but I know that for people who had taken breaks or who are new, it was a welcome chance to catch up.

Yes, there is a grab-bag, but that costs tickets, and people who had missed previous years already have a lot of other things to catch up on with their tickets (e.g., the indriks or 2021 items from the assistant).

I don't mind a minor inconvenience if it means that the event is more inclusive. So this is something that I will give ZOS points for and hope that this is a practice that will continue in the future.

I agree and thought it was an alright balance since the companion style pages were removed. Having all those in the boxes really pushed it over the top in previous years.

Yes, lots of purple provisioning recipes, but now more of my characters have learned them.

I think it would be impossible to have the drop rates on everything ideal for everyone and this year seemed like a good balance overall. I was glad to see motifs included in the coffers that haven’t been in previous years.

I also got my first ever aetheric cipher this year!

reazea

It was not OK. I found only a small part acceptable.

Please ZOS, don't ever put limited time style pages or any other reward behind just a low RNG grind again. That was horrible in the extreme. The normal event rewards were still the best of the year evens though.

Orbital78

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

Jubilee events are one of my favorites, the only thing I didn't like were the Geysers and Dolmens not dropping boxes from the Shells/chests. Requiring you to over focus in hopes to steal loot from others. The extra downtimes were a bummer but overall it was a fun event. I'd take this event over jesters or witches any day.

MasterSpatula

It was not OK. I found only a small part acceptable.

Sometimes, I think I've gotten really cynical about ZOS.

But I honest-to-god expected some kind of statement on the event fiascos today from someone high up the chain. Not just a "we're aware" comment, not just a "we're discussing internally" promise. If not a genuine, heartfelt mea culpa, then at least a genuine desire to fake it. If not a genuine desire to engage, then at least an acknowledgement that their silence was inexcusable. If nothing else, I thought they at least had to offer some kind of explanation for the stunningly thoughtless timing of the maintenance. SOMETHING.

Just goes to show, as cynical as I think I've gotten, I'm actually quite naive compared to the reality.

Amottica

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

Carcamongus wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

joe_schmo wrote: »

A total disaster

Edit: I just looked at the poll. It seems that the event is an overwhelming success since 75% felt it was ok or better. It is expected that most will not think it is perfect as one cannot please everyone 100% of the time.

Check your math?

I see "It was not OK. I found only a small part acceptable." 26% AND "The worst event ever. I hate everything in it."
19%"

Thats 45% that think it was not ok..

37% alone think it was only OK and "Some parts were unpleasant"

Where are you seeing an overwhelming success?

You are correct.

Still, only 43% did not like it. not bad really considering how much complaining about pretty much anything occurs in these forums and the forums are skewed due to the reality we are a vocal minority.

Bear in mind many of those who picked the "it's OK" option were critical of the event, even agreeing with the views from those who selected "not OK" or "worst event ever".

Few, if any, would be completely happy with the event or any event. Of course most who liked the event or thought it was ok would have liked to see some aspect designed differently. Heck, the forums are filled with complaints from someone about pretty much every aspect of this game, yet the game is financially successful.

That is life and should be expected. It does not detract from those players saying they felt the event was ok.

Amottica

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

joe_schmo wrote: »

A total disaster

Edit: I just looked at the poll. It seems that the event is an overwhelming success since 75% felt it was ok or better. It is expected that most will not think it is perfect as one cannot please everyone 100% of the time.

Check your math?

I see "It was not OK. I found only a small part acceptable." 26% AND "The worst event ever. I hate everything in it."
19%"

Thats 45% that think it was not ok..

37% alone think it was only OK and "Some parts were unpleasant"

Where are you seeing an overwhelming success?

You are correct.

Still, only 43% did not like it. not bad really considering how much complaining about pretty much anything occurs in these forums and the forums are skewed due to the reality we are a vocal minority.

I wouldn't expect 100% (some people don't even like Christmas!), but it is the Tenth Anniversary. Really the vast majority should have found it enjoyable - and consider it time well spent in Tamriel.

They could have done so much more.

One unique give away gift for logging in in April.

Bring back the separate gold boxes for writs, bosses, dolmen, etc.

Work out someway to bring people into Cyrodiil - maybe to salute those who made the ultimate sacrifice over ten years of war (possibly a bit grim...).

Have an anniversary quest linking together different zones - not just geysers in Summerset or bosses in Vvardenfell, include the base game and all of the DLCs.

It seems that they didn't put any thought into it at all. Just throw in a couple of new cosmetics and a mount. That's just minimal effort. They could have done so much more, they could have made it into an EVENT!

I would have preferred them to put time and money into an in-game event than put on an event in Amsterdam.

Based on the threads in these forums, the vast majority seem to dislike the game. There are complaints about everything, yet somehow, this game is successful in the matters that count. Probably, the forums do not reflect the player base since those of us who are active in the forums have demonstrated that we walk to a different drum beat than most players who rarely or never post here.

So yeah, the polls here are for entertainment only.

Shadow-Fighter

The worst event ever. I hate everything in it.

I think most didn't realized it was the 10th special Anniversary! 2014-2024.

If it was a normal Jubilee, it was great, *popcorn*.

Nerouyn

It was OK, but some parts were unpleasant.

Amottica wrote: »

Based on the threads in these forums, the vast majority seem to dislike the game. There are complaints about everything, yet somehow, this game is successful in the matters that count. Probably, the forums do not reflect the player base since those of us who are active in the forums have demonstrated that we walk to a different drum beat than most players who rarely or never post here.

So yeah, the polls here are for entertainment only.

I don't want to be down on the game. I think it's heading in a good direction.

But how successful it has been is a difficult thing to judge and open to argument.

Having made any profit at all is actually rare in the MMO space. It's a genre littered with failures.

On the other hand the single player games are among the most popular in the single player space. I would guess that it probably didn't live up to that potential.

Their original grand and glorious leaked for spellcrafting may have been canned for the same reason that we've seen many grand and glorious MMO plans not be delivered - underperformance. Developers develop and announce future plans based on expected sales and if they don't eventuate, they then don't have the resources to deliver and have to scale back.

Carefully avoiding the appearance of failure in any sense of the word, because that can spook players and drive them away.

So no, I don't think you can take "we've made 2 billion dollars" and use that to silence criticism.

DemonicGoat

The worst event ever. I hate everything in it.

Amottica wrote: »

"the game is financially successful."

Amottica wrote: »

this game is successful in the matters that count.

This is why ESO is a sea of mediocrity. The priority is making money and that is what they do, everything else takes a back seat.

Narvuntien

It was OK, but some parts were unpleasant.

I grinded for many days for just 2 of the styles.

I have no inventory space I couldn't continue to do it. Please I need more inventory space.

fizzylu

The worst event ever. I hate everything in it.

It basically killed the very tiny part of me that wanted ESO to be my main MMO and the game I actively play the most this year.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

Enjoyed it because I don't suffer from FOMO. Got extra recipes and boxes from my normal casual play. Thank you ZOS.

Those who complain about the grind, sorry but you decided to grind for styles that could be in the Yesteryear bag in 2025 for 2 event tickets. And you made a choice to grind.

FluffyBird

The worst event ever. I hate everything in it.

Shadow-Fighter wrote: »

I think most didn't realized it was the 10th special Anniversary! 2014-2024.

If it was a normal Jubilee, it was great, *popcorn*.

Exactly. And it was very special, just not in a good way.

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

"the game is financially successful."

Amottica wrote: »

this game is successful in the matters that count.

This is why ESO is a sea of mediocrity. The priority is making money and that is what they do, everything else takes a back seat.

Yep. I've seen games made with an intention to make a game, not money (*cough* BG3 *cough*) and they are a stark contrast to ESO in fun and quality. But if someone likes having their mouth full of mediocre meal, well, maybe they just prefer bland taste and ESO has their niche. Yay!

Necrotech_Master

It was OK, but some parts were unpleasant.

Amottica wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

joe_schmo wrote: »

A total disaster

Edit: I just looked at the poll. It seems that the event is an overwhelming success since 75% felt it was ok or better. It is expected that most will not think it is perfect as one cannot please everyone 100% of the time.

Check your math?

I see "It was not OK. I found only a small part acceptable." 26% AND "The worst event ever. I hate everything in it."
19%"

Thats 45% that think it was not ok..

37% alone think it was only OK and "Some parts were unpleasant"

Where are you seeing an overwhelming success?

You are correct.

Still, only 43% did not like it. not bad really considering how much complaining about pretty much anything occurs in these forums and the forums are skewed due to the reality we are a vocal minority.

Bear in mind many of those who picked the "it's OK" option were critical of the event, even agreeing with the views from those who selected "not OK" or "worst event ever".

Few, if any, would be completely happy with the event or any event. Of course most who liked the event or thought it was ok would have liked to see some aspect designed differently. Heck, the forums are filled with complaints from someone about pretty much every aspect of this game, yet the game is financially successful.

That is life and should be expected. It does not detract from those players saying they felt the event was ok.

i think its pretty obvious that the critical spots most people were mentioning was the style page drops, the grind for those with no other optional ways to obtain them is what killed the fun in the event for most people

and them basically requiring spending tickets to get achievements was not a good precedent either

Mesite

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

Diablo 4 joined game pass so my time has been split too.

Amottica

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

"the game is financially successful."

Amottica wrote: »

this game is successful in the matters that count.

This is why ESO is a sea of mediocrity. The priority is making money and that is what they do, everything else takes a back seat.

Games can only make money if they can attract players and get them to spend money. The so-called mediocrity has done a great job of keeping players in the game. I doubt the flash of the cash shop is the main driver in players enjoying themselves in the game so they are doing something right.

Amottica

Everything was great. I enjoyed it.

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

joe_schmo wrote: »

A total disaster

Edit: I just looked at the poll. It seems that the event is an overwhelming success since 75% felt it was ok or better. It is expected that most will not think it is perfect as one cannot please everyone 100% of the time.

Check your math?

I see "It was not OK. I found only a small part acceptable." 26% AND "The worst event ever. I hate everything in it."
19%"

Thats 45% that think it was not ok..

37% alone think it was only OK and "Some parts were unpleasant"

Where are you seeing an overwhelming success?

You are correct.

Still, only 43% did not like it. not bad really considering how much complaining about pretty much anything occurs in these forums and the forums are skewed due to the reality we are a vocal minority.

Bear in mind many of those who picked the "it's OK" option were critical of the event, even agreeing with the views from those who selected "not OK" or "worst event ever".

Few, if any, would be completely happy with the event or any event. Of course most who liked the event or thought it was ok would have liked to see some aspect designed differently. Heck, the forums are filled with complaints from someone about pretty much every aspect of this game, yet the game is financially successful.

That is life and should be expected. It does not detract from those players saying they felt the event was ok.

i think its pretty obvious that the critical spots most people were mentioning was the style page drops, the grind for those with no other optional ways to obtain them is what killed the fun in the event for most people

and them basically requiring spending tickets to get achievements was not a good precedent either

So not getting all the style page drops or not liking the means to get them makes the event a failure? Does this drive some player's game?

I am just asking because I do not let events control my game life or life in general. I prefer to play the game rather than get caught up in Shineys. Raiding and PvP are where I am most of the time.

Necrotech_Master

It was OK, but some parts were unpleasant.

Amottica wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Carcamongus wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

joe_schmo wrote: »

A total disaster

Edit: I just looked at the poll. It seems that the event is an overwhelming success since 75% felt it was ok or better. It is expected that most will not think it is perfect as one cannot please everyone 100% of the time.

Check your math?

I see "It was not OK. I found only a small part acceptable." 26% AND "The worst event ever. I hate everything in it."
19%"

Thats 45% that think it was not ok..

37% alone think it was only OK and "Some parts were unpleasant"

Where are you seeing an overwhelming success?

You are correct.

Still, only 43% did not like it. not bad really considering how much complaining about pretty much anything occurs in these forums and the forums are skewed due to the reality we are a vocal minority.

Bear in mind many of those who picked the "it's OK" option were critical of the event, even agreeing with the views from those who selected "not OK" or "worst event ever".

Few, if any, would be completely happy with the event or any event. Of course most who liked the event or thought it was ok would have liked to see some aspect designed differently. Heck, the forums are filled with complaints from someone about pretty much every aspect of this game, yet the game is financially successful.

That is life and should be expected. It does not detract from those players saying they felt the event was ok.

i think its pretty obvious that the critical spots most people were mentioning was the style page drops, the grind for those with no other optional ways to obtain them is what killed the fun in the event for most people

and them basically requiring spending tickets to get achievements was not a good precedent either

So not getting all the style page drops or not liking the means to get them makes the event a failure? Does this drive some player's game?

I am just asking because I do not let events control my game life or life in general. I prefer to play the game rather than get caught up in Shineys. Raiding and PvP are where I am most of the time.

both the means to get them and then not having them drop, as a lot of people are into fashion, and many of these styles were what people actually did want

but the drop rate was very poor (many people experienced this differently, but in general it was not good, as some had taken say 500+ geysers in summerset and no drop, and others got it in like less than a dozen to give an example)

the low drop chance, coupled with a lack of other methods to obtain the items (either trading with players or buying with tickets) is what led to significant frustration

its still unknown why zos did it this way instead of like usual, rare RNG drops, but they would be tradeable (which would encourage someone who wanted to farm to keep farming) or buying bound versions with tickets (for those who did not like the idea of farming)

tinythinker

Review of the 10 Anniversary Juiblee

General Concept: B-

Giving lots of rewards and achievements and things people can earn in-game is the right path, though a small quest where past adventures and choices are referenced would have also been nice. However, the ever-present push of FOMO and not quite enough flair and pomp made it seem more like a slightly enhanced anniversary rather than a banger worthy of a hyped up Sanguine throwing the party of the decade.

"Wow!" Factor: C+

While there were some nice prizes to be had, there didn't seem to be something that really dazzled or amazed. And this isn't just items, see the suggested quest idea above or having lots of illusion dazzlers going off at set times over major cities or other things that shout out that this is big deal. The flowers on the wayshrines were nice, though.

Rewards: C-

Here the focus is on things not usually obtainable in the game or other anniversary events, not the same stuff you always have a chance to get like motif pages and recipes from reward boxes. There were four special things people could farm. Two I got with a reasonable amount of effort, two I didn't see even when I put in lots of time. When you work an 8 hour shift farming something (in addition to other time you also put in), it's not unreasonable to expect a positive result. I know some people farmed way harder than me and still got nothing.

I would also add another example - the cake achievement. If you have all of the cakes from prior anniversaries, they should function for giving the achievement. Asking players to spend event tickets (which you already needed for so many other anniversary items) to get new cake slices is basically telling players who have been with the game a long time that pushing them into the cash shop for more tickets outweighs their time played. And speaking of the cash shop, there was no major sale across it with, I don't know, 10% off everything for the 10th anniversary.

Fun Factor: C-

It was mostly a regular anniversary with some grinding thrown in, so while I was happy to get another fishing achievement on one of the grinds, I was mostly dealing with inventory management and reading a book while waiting for Morrowind bosses to spawn.

Overall Grade: C

It wasn't terrible, but it was nothing spectacularly special either. Nothing new to do or learn or see. Adding additional activities that qualify for the Jubilee Gift Boxes was a nice touch.

DemonicGoat

The worst event ever. I hate everything in it.

Amottica wrote: »

DemonicGoat wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

"the game is financially successful."

Amottica wrote: »

this game is successful in the matters that count.

This is why ESO is a sea of mediocrity. The priority is making money and that is what they do, everything else takes a back seat.

Games can only make money if they can attract players and get them to spend money. The so-called mediocrity has done a great job of keeping players in the game. I doubt the flash of the cash shop is the main driver in players enjoying themselves in the game so they are doing something right.

lol,nope. Theyve been leaning on the IP for years. Elder Scrolls brings people,.. thats the only reason ZOS has been unable to kill the game... the IP.

ADarklore

It was OK, but some parts were unpleasant.

I was able to get the Mannimarco Staff motif fairly quickly (after about 30 dolmens), and that was really the only motif I was after. The rest of the time I spent grinding dolmens for rewards boxes so I could sell the contents. Managed to make over 6M (and counting) from all the material rewards.

However, for all the other players that spent DAYS grinding for motifs, I definitely feel the motif drop rates should have been MUCH higher. They turned what should have been a joyous celebration event, into a nightmare grind-fest for so many players. How can that be expected to be considered "FUN"?!?

SickleCider

Other

At the end of the day we can all agree an event happened.