Nameplates are VITAL for the gameplay, add them back.

  • Chrimbus
    Chrimbus
    I would like to have the option. For the simple fact it makes recognizing a friendly much easier. Or at least someway to notice a friendly player target at a quick glance without having to mouse over them.
  • Eliran
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    why are you so against players having the OPTION?
    Can you explain how you having the option of my name being displayed increases MY enjoyment of this game? Because if it doesn't that there is absolutely no reason for you to have it.

    Such egoist, go away.

  • TRG_Ebrasu
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    I hate names floating above characters heads more then I hate chat bubbles. However as long as the option is there to turn them off, I'd support them being added.

    I just do not mind having to turn and look at the other players avatar to see their name.
  • Arato
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    Eliran wrote: »
    Thing is, ZeniMax already made Nameplates, not like they have to develop it from the scretch ...

    To those who played the really early Betas, there was an option for Nameplates like any other game, then at some point they grayed the option out and and then deleted them + disable the option for any mod to use that feature as well.

    All they have to do is simply add the feature back or simply enable mods to code them, as of today, they locked it in a way it is not even possible to make an addon for it.

    Why?

    That's interesting, and if all true, then it confirms that as minimaps (which I've seen in screenshots from earlier betas), nameplates are not a "missing feature" but is in fact a conscious design choice that Zenimax wants. It says that Zenimax wasn't just ignorantly throwing together the game without any knowledge of common MMO features and UI, but rather, tested them and decided that they want the game to be different from every other MMO on the market.
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    The poll shows most are against nameplates. Better learn to play like this.
  • Arato
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    TRG_Ebrasu wrote: »
    I hate names floating above characters heads more then I hate chat bubbles. However as long as the option is there to turn them off, I'd support them being added.

    I just do not mind having to turn and look at the other players avatar to see their name.

    See I wouldn't mind chat bubbles for /say. I don't want them for /zone and /emote (emotes should be actions, not speech, having chat bubbles for /say and not /emote would mean people would actually RP with /say rather than speaking all in emotes, which would be fantastic.), or other channels.. but since our /say speech isn't actually voiced by our characters.. chat bubbles are the next best thing to indicate that a character near you is talking, for RP or something, and indicates WHICH character is talking so you can, face them to pay attention if you're involved in the conversation.

    It also conveys no advantage in PVP.. so.. speech bubbles as an option go for it (people obviously wouldn't use /say in pvp, they'd use zone chat)

  • Cepeza
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    @OP: Usually every time I read the word "majority" I stop reading, because it is followed by own opinions made look bold that way. For you, good sir, I took the time to read your whine... even took the time to reply.

    Despite the fact I would appreciate an option to enable/disable name plates, you seem to be just unable to figure out how to goup up with other players. Try using the 'looking for group feature' ingame.

    [EDIT] I am more than convinced that the majority didn't wanted any name plates. That is the reason why they are not there.
    Edited by Cepeza on April 9, 2014 3:34PM
  • Xoxaan
    Xoxaan
    Nope, don't agree at all. You need help with something, you can use group finder, otherwise that's what guilds are for. I've gotten help from random people just because you are running around fighting in the same area. I didn't even need to talk to them. Nameplates are just a distraction and offer very little value. The way enemy Alliances in PVP are highlighted is more than enough to differentiate friend from foe. I feel like this is the first MMO where I don't always feel like I'm playing an MMO and that is in large part because of the lack of nameplates. I don't care to see 75% of the immature names people come up with, so I really don't see the value in seeing everyones' name lit up in a bright neon color above their head.
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    The poll shows most are against nameplates. Better learn to play like this.

    Nice , so that is how pools work now? Then we all better get ready for server wide AH because the pool in the other thread says most prefer it.

    Honestly , why they dont give players the OPTION , just like i turned tons of stuff ON when i start a char , i would also make this visible.

    I dont care one single bit about immersion , why is this , per design , forced on players is what i think is stupid.
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  • Eliran
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    The poll shows most are against nameplates. Better learn to play like this.

    What poll? lol please show us all so we can vote.

  • vizionblind_ESO
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    The poll shows most are against nameplates. Better learn to play like this.
    link us to the poll, or you're lying

  • Granite
    Granite
    As a tank I really think that nameplates are important thing in mmos. Yelling that loose mob is running to x player is useles if you dont know who is who. Also healers might agree with this.

    And do not use the "This is not WOW" in every suggestion thread because there is reasons, some of those above, why there is for example nameplates in so many games. Troll or not.

  • xPALERIDERx
    This but also love to have Guild Tags. As it is now guilds serves mostly as another contact list (with a shared bank space). Would love for my guild tag to show in PvE/RvR.
  • Eliran
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    We must not give up though, eventually ZeniMax will listen to us ...
  • Arato
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    Eliran wrote: »
    We must not give up though, eventually ZeniMax will listen to us ...

    You know there are a lot of other MMO's out there with nameplates, I could suggest a few, but I don't want to be reported for advertising.

    Can't one of them NOT have them? If you want nameplates so bad.. go to another MMO.

  • Darka
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    So far this thread has been like this

    Its like complaining that you have the option for having a potato for dinner
    Player X says I do not like potatos they are not dinner material
    Player Y Says I love Potatoes I will have it for dinner
    Player X I do not like Potatoes there fore you should not have a potato
    Player Y I Like potatoes and having that potato is my choice
    Player X Yeah but I don’t like it, there fore its not needed at all
    Player Y I know you do not like potatoes, but I do, me having that potato does not have any effect on you and your not wanting potatoes.
    Player X YES BUT I DO NOT LIKE POTATOES!!!!!1 WHY DO YOU NEED IT ? ITS NOT NEEDED YOU CAN DO WITH OUT!
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  • Bob
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    Agree.

    HUGE UGLY WHITE group marks and faction icons are much worse than nameplates.

    Immersion with a HUGE WHITE MARKs... yeah, right! :#
  • Grayphilosophy
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    Sigh, it seems your prayers have been partially heard. Here you go:
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info118-RainbowReticle.html

    Colour coded crosshair with names and guildtag in the centre of the screen.
  • Bloodmonarch
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    BrassRazoo wrote: »
    The option would be a good solution for all.

    The problem when you make things optional, players make them mandatory.

    It is entirely feasible that you will end up with something along the lines of this in chat
    "LF 'x' class for Dungeon/Adventure zone. you MUST have Nameplates enabled.

    Why will some say you 'must' have nameplates displayed? Because the leader may need to direct everyone to follow "PlayerName1", which you can't do effectively if everyone doesn't have nameplates displayed.

    You can however, still achieve the same organisation with some other method of identifying who to follow. This game is different from all the others. It is one where immersion and the feeling of the Elder Scrolls series, is placed higher than the supposed 'must have' features, that are, in reality, nothing more than hand holders that make life a 'bit' easier and are in no way 'mandatory'

    As for the original poster....

    "Many quitting the game because there are no name plates"?....

    "OP hasn't made one friend because of no name plates"? ...

    The first one I would totally refute, no one is going to leave a game they otherwise enjoy 'just' because it doesn't have name plates...

    As for not being able to make friends without name plates.....are you serious? Can you not see how utterly ridiculous that sounds? I suspect however, its just some over exaggeration to try and add weight to something that really is pretty insignificant issue and in no way 'ruins' the game.
  • Sandhya
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    It's really stunning to see how design decisions are blatantly missed by so many people. And what is even more stunning, is that when these people are pointed towards these design decisions, they still feel backed by the imaginary voice of their imaginary 'majority' of players that want a certain feature OP has seen in other games.

    Anyone remember GW2? The design decision right there, was *no tiered endgame*. Currently the game has Fractals and a new tier of gear. Why? Because players complained, complained, and then ran away from the game because it lacked 'endgame'.

    So if you really are that 'majority' and if you really miss the nameplates, please leave us, and come back once the game has changed to your liking. Only then will you get the developer to turn around on its 'design'. Not by ranting on the forum like you are now. A suggestion is just that, a suggestion. Not a universal truth like you make it out to be.

    On another note: voicing an opinion or suggestion is fine, trying to 'be right' on a forum destroys your argument and your credibility.
    Edited by Sandhya on April 10, 2014 12:07PM
  • Eliran
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    Sandhya wrote: »
    It's really stunning to see how design decisions are blatantly missed by so many people. And what is even more stunning, is that when these people are pointed towards these design decisions, they still feel backed by the imaginary voice of their imaginary 'majority' of players that want a certain feature OP has seen in other games.

    Anyone remember GW2? The design decision right there, was *no tiered endgame*. Currently the game has Fractals and a new tier of gear. Why? Because players complained, complained, and then ran away from the game because it lacked 'endgame'.

    So if you really are that 'majority' and if you really miss the nameplates, please leave us, and come back once the game has changed to your liking. Only then will you get the developer to turn around on its 'design'. Not by ranting on the forum like you are now. A suggestion is just that, a suggestion. Not a universal truth like you make it out to be.

    On another note: voicing an opinion or suggestion is fine, trying to 'be right' on a forum destroys your argument and your credibility.

    You just forget one thing, if all the people who feel like me are really are the majority and we will all leave, eventually you won't have a game to play anymore, at all.

    Realize ESO require HUGE source in order to maintain and if it won't have enough pool base then it will fail, think twice before kicking so many people.

    I am not going to leave this game to your disapointment as I really like it, however I am strong still about my opinion that Nameplates MUST be added.

  • Eliran
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    Darka wrote: »
    So far this thread has been like this

    Its like complaining that you have the option for having a potato for dinner
    Player X says I do not like potatos they are not dinner material
    Player Y Says I love Potatoes I will have it for dinner
    Player X I do not like Potatoes there fore you should not have a potato
    Player Y I Like potatoes and having that potato is my choice
    Player X Yeah but I don’t like it, there fore its not needed at all
    Player Y I know you do not like potatoes, but I do, me having that potato does not have any effect on you and your not wanting potatoes.
    Player X YES BUT I DO NOT LIKE POTATOES!!!!!1 WHY DO YOU NEED IT ? ITS NOT NEEDED YOU CAN DO WITH OUT!

    And we have a winner, couldn't say it any better!:)

  • WyeVxndzz
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    What a difference a week makes: at first I *really* wanted them (or the option of them, you get it) but now I'm fine with the system as is.
    I can tell player from NPC with mouseover, quite quickly, as my "release mouse" quickkey is second nature.
    I would *hate* to be stuck in a cloud of nameplates at banks and quest points.
    If I had the option I wanted to ask for, I would operate with it off 99% of the time.
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  • bearcalypse
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    Can we please have the names removed from the forums? It breaks my immersion of being surrounded by unidentified and anonymous people that I have gotten used to in game.
    Edited by bearcalypse on April 10, 2014 7:13PM
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Darka wrote: »
    So far this thread has been like this

    Its like complaining that you have the option for having a potato for dinner
    Player X says I do not like potatos they are not dinner material
    Player Y Says I love Potatoes I will have it for dinner
    Player X I do not like Potatoes there fore you should not have a potato
    Player Y I Like potatoes and having that potato is my choice
    Player X Yeah but I don’t like it, there fore its not needed at all
    Player Y I know you do not like potatoes, but I do, me having that potato does not have any effect on you and your not wanting potatoes.
    Player X YES BUT I DO NOT LIKE POTATOES!!!!!1 WHY DO YOU NEED IT ? ITS NOT NEEDED YOU CAN DO WITH OUT!

    Hehehehe dear god , this post is exactly what we have here , i could not have said it better myself hehehehe.
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  • Azurya
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    I do not want any nameplates in the game
    for all who do not recognized it: THIS IS NOT WoW!!
    if you need a nice nameplate, you know were to look for it
    but I just do not need it, and I do not want to see it ingame, and I know the great silent majority wants this together with me!
    Edited by Azurya on April 10, 2014 7:21PM
  • Elencha
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    I would not like to have nameplates floating around my screen as the simple fact of it being an MMO breaks immersion plenty enough for me, thanks. I do not, however, feel like everyone else should play it my way. I am strongly in favor of returning the option for nameplates and guild tags, (if for no other reason than to stop my boyfriend whining about the lack), as long as it comes with the option to hide my own nameplate. I get enough "friend" requests, guild invites and group invites from total strangers as it is.
  • MercyKilling
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    The other day someone helped with a quest, it was so complicated to find out their name and send them a message, I never did.

    .....really? How complicated is pointing your crosshairs at someone? It displays player level and name just under the compass when you do.
    If you're pointing at an NPC, you get no level, only a name. I found this out on my first day of BETA TESTING.

    It's really not that hard, if you pay attention.

    I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
    1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
    2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
    3) Difficulty slider.
    4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
    Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    For now , i see if someone is a player or an NPC by the bar over their head.

    blue bar , player , green bar , npc.

    Not ideal , but could be worse.
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  • Anzaman
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    I'd love to have option for nameplates.
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