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Nameplates are VITAL for the gameplay, add them back.
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Hiply✭✭✭Well, let's sum this up: having nameplates available harms no one. Full stop.
No one's immersion is impacted by someone else having nameplates enabled, the functionality is obviously in the code since they existed and were disabled, and if it makes people feel more connected to their fellow players to be able to easily know who they are standing around then where's the rationale for arguing against the functionality being made optional?3 -
They are not 'vital' to the game and I understand why ZM left them out. But, and addon or option to turn them on would be great. I would use them personally.0 -
Granz✭✭I fully agree this game has HUGE HUGE HUGE potential! This needs to be put in ASAP. We won't even be able to promote our guilds if no one can see us out there.1
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Agreed, I feel a huge disconnect between the community I'm playing with because I can't see nameplates. In addition I feel they need to be available in PVP(ava).PC - NA
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Eliran✭✭✭✭✭Those who want to feel Immersion will NOT be harmed, that said, please stop hating on those who do want them as we don't hate on you.
Nevertheless what your going to say, the fact is clear, the larger group of MMO players around the world do want the nameplates, not everyone want to play it the exact way the original ES was played.
The only reason "Skyrim" didn't had it for example like some people here keep saying is because "Skrim" and any other elder scrolls game didn't need to have one for the simple reason there been only ONE player aka you at the time and therefore it was pointless.
This is NOT the case and in no way even remotely related and therefore your argue in invalid, no body force you to enable nameplates once they add the feature back.1 -
tammuz30b14_ESOSoul Shrivenagreed, or at the very least give us a targeting icon to keep track of our commander in AvAEdited by tammuz30b14_ESO on April 6, 2014 1:02AM0
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Quidel✭I do see the want for not having name plates in PVP, as then you wouldn't see a name over them as they sneak up to kill you. otherwise i wouldn't mind the option either way. but not sure if they could make them turn off only in PVP though.0
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Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, let's sum this up: having nameplates available harms no one. Full stop.
No one's immersion is impacted by someone else having nameplates enabled, the functionality is obviously in the code since they existed and were disabled, and if it makes people feel more connected to their fellow players to be able to easily know who they are standing around then where's the rationale for arguing against the functionality being made optional?
Let's sum this up: Having nameplates enabled gives you an advantage in PVP over someone who does not have them enabled, then it suddenly isn't an option, both of you have to have it enabled to be on the same level playing field .
THERE's your full stop.
If name plates are an option, or an addon, and people are using it in PVP, then I, even though I hate them, will have to enable them or use that addon, even though I don't want to, or I am trying to run a foot race against you and shooting myself in the foot when the race starts.0 -
Eliran✭✭✭✭✭Well, let's sum this up: having nameplates available harms no one. Full stop.
No one's immersion is impacted by someone else having nameplates enabled, the functionality is obviously in the code since they existed and were disabled, and if it makes people feel more connected to their fellow players to be able to easily know who they are standing around then where's the rationale for arguing against the functionality being made optional?
Let's sum this up: Having nameplates enabled gives you an advantage in PVP over someone who does not have them enabled, then it suddenly isn't an option, both of you have to have it enabled to be on the same level playing field .
THERE's your full stop.
If name plates are an option, or an addon, and people are using it in PVP, then I, even though I hate them, will have to enable them or use that addon, even though I don't want to, or I am trying to run a foot race against you and shooting myself in the foot when the race starts.
Wrong, a sharp-eyed player WILL see you either way and just like any other game, while your in "stealth" such as wow, there is no nameplate so therefore, your point is invalid.0 -
Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, let's sum this up: having nameplates available harms no one. Full stop.
No one's immersion is impacted by someone else having nameplates enabled, the functionality is obviously in the code since they existed and were disabled, and if it makes people feel more connected to their fellow players to be able to easily know who they are standing around then where's the rationale for arguing against the functionality being made optional?
Let's sum this up: Having nameplates enabled gives you an advantage in PVP over someone who does not have them enabled, then it suddenly isn't an option, both of you have to have it enabled to be on the same level playing field .
THERE's your full stop.
If name plates are an option, or an addon, and people are using it in PVP, then I, even though I hate them, will have to enable them or use that addon, even though I don't want to, or I am trying to run a foot race against you and shooting myself in the foot when the race starts.
Wrong, a sharp-eyed player WILL see you either way and just like any other game, while your in "stealth" such as wow, there is no nameplate so therefore, your point is invalid.
Nameplates will stick out of corners, show up behind objects, make it easier to single you out in the middle of a zerg. It is an advantage.
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Agree 100%. Having come from EQ1/2, WOW, DAOC, LOTRO, GW/GW2, etc, not having names / guilds and ranks or titles shown is detrimental to the players who want to see that kind of information. Get it sorted please. Make it optional and have done with it.Edited by auberneb16_ESO on April 6, 2014 3:10AM1
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Eliran✭✭✭✭✭Well, let's sum this up: having nameplates available harms no one. Full stop.
No one's immersion is impacted by someone else having nameplates enabled, the functionality is obviously in the code since they existed and were disabled, and if it makes people feel more connected to their fellow players to be able to easily know who they are standing around then where's the rationale for arguing against the functionality being made optional?
Let's sum this up: Having nameplates enabled gives you an advantage in PVP over someone who does not have them enabled, then it suddenly isn't an option, both of you have to have it enabled to be on the same level playing field .
THERE's your full stop.
If name plates are an option, or an addon, and people are using it in PVP, then I, even though I hate them, will have to enable them or use that addon, even though I don't want to, or I am trying to run a foot race against you and shooting myself in the foot when the race starts.
Wrong, a sharp-eyed player WILL see you either way and just like any other game, while your in "stealth" such as wow, there is no nameplate so therefore, your point is invalid.
Nameplates will stick out of corners, show up behind objects, make it easier to single you out in the middle of a zerg. It is an advantage.
Like mouseover won't do the same effect, a sharp-eye will find you nevertheless.
As I said, make them unseen when stealth solve the problem, click control when you hide behind a stone and everything shall be fine.0 -
Elaithe✭✭✭Well, let's sum this up: having nameplates available harms no one. Full stop.
No one's immersion is impacted by someone else having nameplates enabled, the functionality is obviously in the code since they existed and were disabled, and if it makes people feel more connected to their fellow players to be able to easily know who they are standing around then where's the rationale for arguing against the functionality being made optional?
Let's sum this up: Having nameplates enabled gives you an advantage in PVP over someone who does not have them enabled, then it suddenly isn't an option, both of you have to have it enabled to be on the same level playing field .
THERE's your full stop.
If name plates are an option, or an addon, and people are using it in PVP, then I, even though I hate them, will have to enable them or use that addon, even though I don't want to, or I am trying to run a foot race against you and shooting myself in the foot when the race starts.
But for real, how are nameplates on FRIENDLY players an advantage over your enemies? It's not all about you, even though you are a special little snowflake. We all hate some things, even though the thing you hate is literally harmless, and have to deal with them in our lives.
Edited by Elaithe on April 6, 2014 5:03AM0 -
Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, let's sum this up: having nameplates available harms no one. Full stop.
No one's immersion is impacted by someone else having nameplates enabled, the functionality is obviously in the code since they existed and were disabled, and if it makes people feel more connected to their fellow players to be able to easily know who they are standing around then where's the rationale for arguing against the functionality being made optional?
Let's sum this up: Having nameplates enabled gives you an advantage in PVP over someone who does not have them enabled, then it suddenly isn't an option, both of you have to have it enabled to be on the same level playing field .
THERE's your full stop.
If name plates are an option, or an addon, and people are using it in PVP, then I, even though I hate them, will have to enable them or use that addon, even though I don't want to, or I am trying to run a foot race against you and shooting myself in the foot when the race starts.
But for real, how are nameplates on FRIENDLY players an advantage over your enemies? It's not all about you, even though you are a special little snowflake. We all hate some things, even though the thing you hate is literally harmless, and have to deal with them in our lives.
If it's for friendly players only I could agree with that being an option. but if it's spread to enemy players, then it's not an option unless you consider taking a handicap an option.
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Wreaken✭✭✭So lets make it simple here.
Just add the option to show Nameplates on/off.
Both parties happy.
My honest opinion on the matter, is they should just leave it the way it is.Edited by Wreaken on April 6, 2014 7:35AM
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Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭So lets make it simple here.
Just add the option to show Nameplates on/off.
Both parties happy.
My honest opinion on the matter, is they should just leave it the way it is.
As I keep on saying.. it's not a 'both parties happy' because those people who don't want them on who PVP will be at a disadvantage so they will pretty much be forced to turn them on.0 -
Sideshow✭This game seriously lacks social features. Guilds are scattered around factions, name plates are lacking, chat bubbles non existing, the 5-guild-thing is a big mess, .... these little things and some others I can't remember right now are bringing the game down imo.0
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Eliran✭✭✭✭✭This game seriously lacks social features. Guilds are scattered around factions, name plates are lacking, chat bubbles non existing, the 5-guild-thing is a big mess, .... these little things and some others I can't remember right now are bringing the game down imo.
Though those egoist who don't want them don't get it.
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martinhpb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭This definitely needs to happen.
I need to see Guildies
I need to spot friends in passing as the game progresses, mmos are social by nature.
I need to spot the raid leader in pvp
I need to know my enemy in pvp so I can get revenge
AS the game progresses what makes it better and more social are the names around you. We had quite a server network on the mmo I just left.
We also need to see guildnames.
At the moment it is too anonymous and ant-social. I want to be social please.
while we are at it. It takes too long to interact with another player.
we need target marking so we can follow raid leaders etc
in guild mail please. Im a guid leader and I want to mail the entire guild.
This is a great mmo. It has potential to be the greatest.
thanks
Edited by martinhpb16_ESO on April 6, 2014 2:06PMAt least the spelling is difficult for you.
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martinhpb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭You mean like the nameplates we have irl?
Actually we do they are called name badges. People wear them at work, people in public service roles wear them. People at meetings and conventions with strangers wear them.
People irl choose to wear certain clothes or style to express who they are.
irl we can spot people we know because we recognise them.
We are a social species by nature.
In an MMO we cant recognise eachother by our clothes, face, etc.
At the moment I could be standing right next to an acquaintance and not know it.
Immersion is one thing but if this game is to flourish it needs to build a community, even if some choose not to join in and run around with blinkers on.
You are right this is not the real world it is an mmo and it needs the tools to facilitate social interaction.
I want the immersion of recognising people I know and getting to know the names around me.
Edited by martinhpb16_ESO on April 6, 2014 2:15PMAt least the spelling is difficult for you.
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drowadin✭✭No nameplates to ez to use them to target individual targets ont he battlefield, In real battle everyone looks the same.0
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Eliran✭✭✭✭✭No nameplates to ez to use them to target individual targets ont he battlefield, In real battle everyone looks the same.
In real battle you also die only once, cannot revive and pretty much not cast wear "magical" gear to protect you.
Beyond PVP, it is more for social reasons, in PVP you can disable them for stealth unit or to far away players and even at all.
For PVE and or Social, Nameplates are A MUST!
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I understand both sides in this.
What if it was the other way around. What if I could toggle my own nameplate for others to see on and off. If I turn it off others have to target me to see my name and if I turn it on they will see my nameplate above me.
And you would need to have a universal on and off toggle too. If I toggle it off then I won't see others nameplates (but they will not see mine either because I have turned it off) and if I turn on the universal toggle I will only see other players with their nameplate turned on, all others with it turned off I would have to target to see their name.
So in short:
A personal toggle for my own nameplate on/off.
A universal toggle for all nameplates on/off.
Edited by Vortex500 on April 7, 2014 10:19AM0 -
Zxaxz✭✭✭ROFL, I spent 2+ hours trying to fix my Game with no names. Searched the forums, added Mods. I almost reinstalled the game, finally someone answered in chat and explained no one had names. O.ODarkness is the natural state of the galaxy. A light will not shine forever; one day it will burn itself out. Darkness, however, is everlasting and never expires.0 -
Sheraz✭Let's sum this up: Having nameplates enabled gives you an advantage in PVP over someone who does not have them enabled, then it suddenly isn't an option, both of you have to have it enabled to be on the same level playing field .
THERE's your full stop.
If name plates are an option, or an addon, and people are using it in PVP, then I, even though I hate them, will have to enable them or use that addon, even though I don't want to, or I am trying to run a foot race against you and shooting myself in the foot when the race starts.
You mean we shouldn't have nameplates because they will give exactly the same advantage that the existing health bars already do? Nameplates are expected to be functionally similar to healthbars and this means two things:
(1) Your sprite will appear well in advance of the nameplate popping up, so it doesn't give you away, just as enemy players aren't currently spotted because of healthbars or faction emblems.
(2) The advantage you fear that nameplate-users will get and are using as an argument is already extant for healthbar-users.0 -
tengri✭✭✭✭✭+1 nameplates.
Actually the longer I play the more I start to loathe all those beta-players who obviously lobbied some rather very bad choices into the game...0 -
Seroczynski✭✭✭I wouldn't call them "vital" at all.
Perhaps as an option. But personally I wouldn't use them. They look bad and clutter your screen (Blacksmith and Bank are always immensely crowded).Edited by Seroczynski on April 7, 2014 10:14AM“To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.” ― Homer J. Simpson0
