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Nameplates are VITAL for the gameplay, add them back.

  • Lukes_Lionheart
    Lukes_Lionheart
    Soul Shriven
    Ya. Having an option for it is the best way to go. I personally like it without the name plates but that's just my play style. Let's not bash people who want them, that's just their play style.
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    I hope they never add them its immersive to not see big names everywhere. Keep it true to Elder Scrolls by not caving Zenimax
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on April 12, 2014 12:59PM
  • kelisw1ub17_ESO
    I agree, it is so frustrating being in town in the crafting area or the bank and having no idea who all these people standing next to you are. Everyone just standing around trying to 'look' at someone without them running away or a rat running in front of them. I grouped with someone today and if i see him in town, oh wait - i won't see him in town! There is no way to recognize anyone! This is a massive multiplayer game. It is vital to have a way for us to become familiar with and recognize each other. This is just silly.
  • Alaric
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    Agree with this 100%. It should be an option for people to use or not use, depending on their preference for immersion...which is rapidly becoming a dirty word...
  • Chaice
    Chaice
    Soul Shriven
    please make it an option.
  • Harbingers
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    Lolz, don't even ask.
    ~ Immersion is no substitute for Exposition ~
    Karesh Zeal - VR12 Templar - Live
    Abyssiana Zeal - VR10 Dragon Knight - Beta - Retired by Zenimax 5/27
  • Sunna
    Sunna
    Soul Shriven
    I have played a lot of MMO's And my biggest complaint about ESO is not being able to see if someone is in my guild or who they are. If you don't want to see it then turn it off but it really would make the game 10 times better to at least have the option. I see people all the time hit their attack button because they think a player is an NPC. It is very frustrating.
    If you don't want to show their guild name then at least have an option that if you are in the same guild with someone their name shows up in green or something.

    Suna
  • Eliran
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    Thanks everyone for the support!:)

    Keep it up and we shall have our Nameplates back in no time!:)

    There is simply no reason to prevents such feature from those who would like to use it, specially as the feature has already been made ...
  • High_Marshal
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    WyeVxndzz wrote: »
    Daehir wrote: »
    You mean like the nameplates we have irl?

    I don't have to make second by second decisions about a crowd of strangers around me IRL possibly trying to kill me or possibly being aquaintances (that I didn't even get a face to face intro or handshake from prior to starting the battle.)
    If your life is like that - woah, dude, where you at? I'm staying in MY hood.

    I do. Every day at work. Every second of every minute. I am constantly scanning people to see if they are a possible threat that I will have to eliminate.
  • Kiybue
    Kiybue
    I want the nameplates. I want to see names, I want to know who they are. I want to see enemies and know who they are. I want a minimap which shows my group members on it so I can find them, because that stupid arrow on the screen is useless.
    The UI for this game - and before ppl start screaming, I know full well why they did what they did, I just don't agree with them - blows. It's a beautiful game. The art, music, voice acting, quests - all top notch. But there is no immersion when you have to battle a UI unlike the mechanics of every other MMO in existence.
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    Yes. I know it's like the other Elder Scrolls games. But those games were single-player games. What works in a single-player game is highly impractical and *irritating* in a multi-player game. Nameplates are the very least of my issues with ESO - and it's a real shame, because I was so looking forward to this game as were my friends. We all paid for the Imperial edition and 2 minutes into the tutorial we were all in an elevated state of nerd-rage. Some still are and won't even play the first 30 days they essentially paid for. I'm still here, but if my friends aren't, I wonder how long that will last.
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    Kiybue wrote: »
    I want the nameplates. I want to see names, I want to know who they are. I want to see enemies and know who they are. I want a minimap which shows my group members on it so I can find them, because that stupid arrow on the screen is useless.
    The UI for this game - and before ppl start screaming, I know full well why they did what they did, I just don't agree with them - blows. It's a beautiful game. The art, music, voice acting, quests - all top notch. But there is no immersion when you have to battle a UI unlike the mechanics of every other MMO in existence.
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    Yes. I know it's like the other Elder Scrolls games. But those games were single-player games. What works in a single-player game is highly impractical and *irritating* in a multi-player game. Nameplates are the very least of my issues with ESO - and it's a real shame, because I was so looking forward to this game as were my friends. We all paid for the Imperial edition and 2 minutes into the tutorial we were all in an elevated state of nerd-rage. Some still are and won't even play the first 30 days they essentially paid for. I'm still here, but if my friends aren't, I wonder how long that will last.

    Hey Elder Scrolls isnt for anyone who wants a typical themepark wow style mmo. While I won't say theres the door, I ask you to understand that adding things like nameplates and mini maps turns this game into something other than elder scrolls.
  • Greevir
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    Kiybue wrote: »
    I want the nameplates. I want to see names, I want to know who they are. I want to see enemies and know who they are. I want a minimap which shows my group members on it so I can find them, because that stupid arrow on the screen is useless.
    The UI for this game - and before ppl start screaming, I know full well why they did what they did, I just don't agree with them - blows. It's a beautiful game. The art, music, voice acting, quests - all top notch. But there is no immersion when you have to battle a UI unlike the mechanics of every other MMO in existence.
    -
    Yes. I know it's like the other Elder Scrolls games. But those games were single-player games. What works in a single-player game is highly impractical and *irritating* in a multi-player game. Nameplates are the very least of my issues with ESO - and it's a real shame, because I was so looking forward to this game as were my friends. We all paid for the Imperial edition and 2 minutes into the tutorial we were all in an elevated state of nerd-rage. Some still are and won't even play the first 30 days they essentially paid for. I'm still here, but if my friends aren't, I wonder how long that will last.

    Not every game is or should be made for everyone. It's too bad the game doesn't meet your standands but that is no reason to demand the experience of those who enjoy the game as it is to be diminished. People say nameplates won't effect others. They do. I don't want you to pick me out from a crowd. You shouldn't be able to unless you are actively looking. An indicator for friends and guildmates is about as far as I'd like to see it.
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
  • Bunzaga_ESO
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    With all the awesome mechanics to customize your character, and choose to play your class the way you want, you would think they could carry that over to the UI as well.

    Some people think it distracts from the immersion of the game. I have no argument there. The problem as I see it, is I don't need a developer to decide for ME, what I want to see on MY screen when I play the game.

    If I want a mini-map, name plates flying all over the place, combat numbers ascending into heaven, and an auction house, then at least give me the choice.

    And for those of you who *** about it not being immerse, how exactly does instantaneous email fit into the picture? You click a few buttons, and magically the other player has all these items in their inventory.

    For me, convenience outweighs immersion. For you it may not. At least give us the choice.
  • Corithna
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    fabianff wrote: »
    Also it makes it hard when capturing an elder scroll to know who to protect.

    Have you ever captured a scroll? Or helped defend? Huge beam of light marks the carrier in a very unmistakable manner. No it doesn't make it hard to know who to protect and would do far less then what the current system does do.

    For all the millions of pages of codified law we have enacted in this nation alone, all of it, every word, sentence, paragraph and nuance, is steeped in the singular idea of this:

    "Be good to one another."
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    With all the awesome mechanics to customize your character, and choose to play your class the way you want, you would think they could carry that over to the UI as well.

    Some people think it distracts from the immersion of the game. I have no argument there. The problem as I see it, is I don't need a developer to decide for ME, what I want to see on MY screen when I play the game.

    If I want a mini-map, name plates flying all over the place, combat numbers ascending into heaven, and an auction house, then at least give me the choice.

    And for those of you who *** about it not being immerse, how exactly does instantaneous email fit into the picture? You click a few buttons, and magically the other player has all these items in their inventory.

    For me, convenience outweighs immersion. For you it may not. At least give us the choice.

    Thats why they allow add-ons.
  • Miv
    Miv
    Daehir wrote: »
    You mean like the nameplates we have irl?

    The nameplates we have irl are faces, sadly video games haven't advanced enough for us to recognize someone by face. Also, we can't force them to read public chat, where as a whisper will usually be answered; but can't do that if we can't get their name.

  • Inzainia
    Inzainia
    All i can say to you people complaining about immersion is this....

    when is the last time you could mystically trans-locate yourself 10 feet behind you and watch yourself move around the world... ie.. 3rd person view! if your going to use a garbage reason as the basis of an argument for not adding something, ie... immersion... at least have the intelligence to use something that indeed fits the profile of the argument..

    add in the bars, also add in the ability to track buffs and debuffs correctly and not just some addon guessing, it is an mmo, if i wanted to be immersed, id watch a movie or read a book! If they don't want to add them, atleast allow the modders to create addons that do so. then they can still say "we want immersion" and simply dont use the addon, and those who want names, can use the addon!

    just my 2 cents.
  • Bunzaga_ESO
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    With all the awesome mechanics to customize your character, and choose to play your class the way you want, you would think they could carry that over to the UI as well.

    Some people think it distracts from the immersion of the game. I have no argument there. The problem as I see it, is I don't need a developer to decide for ME, what I want to see on MY screen when I play the game.

    If I want a mini-map, name plates flying all over the place, combat numbers ascending into heaven, and an auction house, then at least give me the choice.

    And for those of you who *** about it not being immerse, how exactly does instantaneous email fit into the picture? You click a few buttons, and magically the other player has all these items in their inventory.

    For me, convenience outweighs immersion. For you it may not. At least give us the choice.

    Thats why they allow add-ons.

    They allow addons to extend functionality, these are core components, which should have been developed along side the game.

    You don't need to install an addon to disable these things, why should I need to install one to add them?
  • Eliran
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    I want to make it clear, as of right now, there is NO WAY to create an Addon to add Nameplates!

    ZeniMax disable the possibility of creating such an addon, if they could do the least and enable the possibility back then addons will be able to do so.

    As of that not enough they removed the Nameplates but also disabled the possibility, they left us no choice and therefore this thread exist.

    So to all of those who say "addons", please spare us.
  • Corithna
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    Ultimately this game is still an MMO and by having things that helps facilitate communication with others is usually the best rule of thumb. If you want to play a game where you don't know who is around you, then why even pay the fee to play an mmo. You could just play a game with AI if you don't plan on interacting.

    Not to mention zone chat is completely and utterly spammed by tons of people. As of right now I can't even tell people apart that are wearing heavy armor since a lot of people look similar unless they have a tail poking out. So while immersion is nice and some people value that over everything else, gotta have options for the rest of the players.

    This title has a goal of moving single player customers into the mmo space. To that end maintaining a certain sense of where people have come from and allowing them to not interact when they please is important to this portion of what is intended to have happen with this title. Believe it or not, people do have good reasons for wanting to be able to play with close friends without dealing with the various negative aspects that being in a large crowd entails.

    When in real life you don't have big glowing letters over everyone's head to tell you who they are, how do you communicate? How do you find out who is who when you want to know this information? And if that person doesn't want to talk to you and just keeps on walking down the street does that mean they have some how wronged you?

    While you do make a good point about how name plates facilitate communication, you also ignore the fact that it simultaneously eliminates the partial anonymity provided via their exclusion. This strikes a good balance between two very different groups of people. And until you can learn to respect that you'll never be happy with solutions that are in fact very fair minded.
    For all the millions of pages of codified law we have enacted in this nation alone, all of it, every word, sentence, paragraph and nuance, is steeped in the singular idea of this:

    "Be good to one another."
  • Corithna
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    WyeVxndzz wrote: »
    Daehir wrote: »
    You mean like the nameplates we have irl?

    I don't have to make second by second decisions about a crowd of strangers around me IRL possibly trying to kill me or possibly being aquaintances (that I didn't even get a face to face intro or handshake from prior to starting the battle.)
    If your life is like that - woah, dude, where you at? I'm staying in MY hood.

    Then stay out of many places in Chicago, Dever, Los Angeles, New York, New Jersey, .........etc.
    For all the millions of pages of codified law we have enacted in this nation alone, all of it, every word, sentence, paragraph and nuance, is steeped in the singular idea of this:

    "Be good to one another."
  • nicodiemus
    nicodiemus
    Soul Shriven
    I think the fact of having tons and tons of nameplates all over your screen is very distracting. Give it a chance and play with out for a bit. Turn on healthbars if you must...
  • Sandstorm
    Sandstorm
    Soul Shriven
    Inzainia wrote: »
    if i wanted to be immersed, id watch a movie or read a book!

    Some people do that by playing games. Video games have the potential to be much more immersive than either of those mediums.

    Sorry if you're the type to not take "games" seriously, people that make them and some people that play them make much more money than you probably do.
    Video games are starting to be recognized as a serious form of entertainment, even governments are slowly acknowledging them as sports.
  • gilgalahad1313
    I'm in the no nameplate camp. Seriously, of all the things to argue about and threaten to leave over such a minor thing is ludicrous. I snorted coffee out my nose I was laughing so hard. I too do not want to see a ton of crap floating around my screen. I go to the craft stall, I move my cursor around for 20 seconds and I know who e1 is. As for arguments about grouping, I agree, use zone chat or whisper's if you need help I mean huh? And to those who said they can't tell npc's from players....I'll let that one go or I'll get mega-flamed to death.
  • Crazer
    Crazer
    Soul Shriven
    Nameplates!!! I played in 7 beta weekends, and it increasingly drove me bonkers each time. I fully understand that some players hate them and turn them off in the settings as soon as they can. What I cannot understand At All, is why those players insist that everybody play the game exactly as they do, and want to refuse this option to those of us who Really want it in the game. Turn them off if you don't want them, turn them on if you want them... why is that a big freaking deal???

    Case and point:
    nicodiemus wrote: »
    I think the fact of having tons and tons of nameplates all over your screen is very distracting. Give it a chance and play with out for a bit. Turn on healthbars if you must...

    That is perfectly fine that you find it distracting, and I would be happy for developers to give you the option to disable that and any feature you find distracting. Why are you demanding players like me should NOT have the option to play the way we prefer?
    Also, "Turn on healthbars if you must." Makes absolutely no sense. When I am standing in town in a pack of 27 people on screen, I can't tell who is a player, who is an NPC, who is a friend, who is a stranger, or even who is a member of my own guild. ...If I turn on healthbars, I have 27 people standing around me who are all equally mysterious, now with big dumb red lines over their head.

    I can see how the nameplates issue for a single-player gamer is no big deal, if even a deal at all. But for those of us with friends and guilds, it is ridiculous, off-putting, confusing, and negatively impacts competitive team game-play in PvP. It's very difficult to coordinate tactical maneuvers, call priority targets, position your team, and a number of other things that shouldn't even be an issue at all in this game. Not to mention, if a great enemy player kills you in glorious fashion, you have no idea who that was. MMOs are fun for such competition. When everyone is just an anonymous cartoon, good players can't shine or build notoriety. More-so for guilds. I hate the lack of nameplates in this game. I've played dozens and dozens of hours in beta, and most waking hours of early-access. I've given it a chance. I've worked against it in PvP, PvE, solo-questing, dungeon grouping, and every other way people play this game. It is not getting better or easier, it gets worse and increasingly frustrating. I love ESO for 100 reasons, but something as simple as OPTIONAL nameplates is corroding all of the great things the game has to offer.

    And to those *** comments about "hur hur, just like we all have names floating over our heads in real life, right?". IRL we have facial recognition. The ESO equivalent to this in the real world would be like going to a crowded shopping mall where everybody there was required to wear one of 20 masks. Strangers, friends, retailers, janitors, security... everyone. You can't tell vendor from shopper. You can't tell if a friend or even a family member is standing right beside you. For the individual shopper who doesn't know anybody (the single-player gamer) it's no big deal, everybody is a stranger anyway, and you experience things at a slower pace for different reasons. For those of us venturing forth in a group with agendas, strategies, tactics, etc. (MMO players with guilds, friends, and PvP aspirations) ESO's lack of nameplates makes every situation utterly frustrating and ridiculously handicapped.
  • Eliran
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    @Crazer‌ , everything you say reflects 100% what I feel.

    I don't get why those people hate on us, we paid for a game and its our own right to play it the way we feel like.
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    Eliran wrote: »
    @Crazer‌ , everything you say reflects 100% what I feel.

    I don't get why those people hate on us, we paid for a game and its our own right to play it the way we feel like.

    Its also Zenimax's right to develop the game as they see fit. As its your right to walk away if this bothers you so greatly.
  • Eliran
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    @Ragnar_Lodbrok‌ Stop the hating.
  • mskmegalodon
    mskmegalodon
    Soul Shriven
    We need options for Nameplate and Chat Bubbles in the interface Zenimax (or at least an API that allows an add-on to fill that roll if you don't want to do it yourselves)!
  • Shamusangus_24
    Zargorius wrote: »
    Yes please so I can totally see all the wonderful names people give to their characters. Oh wait...

    some names are good... Tank Sinatra, Elf Stewart.. hahaha

    Edward Van Healen
    Aldmeri Dominion - Breton - Templar

    Guild: Dirty Pundies
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