The Fake Tank Preference Poll

Morvan

None of you need a "real tank" to do a normal fungal grotto, fake tanking is a relative term, as long as the dps is actually tanking, he IS the tank, there is no such a thing as a "real" or "fake" tank, roles aren't classified by builds, they are classified by FUNCTION.

If I'm a decent enough DPS who knows I can solo nearly any normal dg (and yes, most of the DLC dgs are also soloable on normal) then why not accept a "fake tank" for shorter queues?

A fake tank who's not taunting or actually doing his function is as bad as any bad real tanks who you will constantly get queued with if you do random vet dgs, but if the guy is fake tanking stuff he realistically cannot tank or isn't getting aggro, then he probably should be judged for that.

NWah

OsUfi wrote: »

if someone has a taunt, and are holding a bosses aggro, they're a tank. If someones healing the group in some way, they're a healer. The whole "is it or isn't it a fake" debate is daft as heck.

In random normals, sure.

Rishikesa108

Guys for a random normal tanks are not needed !!! It's enough to have a good dps and bosses are done for. Different in a vet run, of course.

Ittrix

I'd like to preface this by saying I do not act on these feelings, and I do very strongly wish they either didn't exist or I didn't get put in the same place as people with conflicting ones.
I'm a tank main. When I tank dungeons I do it at a fair pace and try to include everyone. The only scenario I fake tank in is with a premade group of friends who are already okay with it.
However...

I can solo every normal dungeon. I can likely solo the vast majority of veteran vanilla dungeons. I only queue up to get transmutes and because every extra player queueing with me is an extra loot drop I can possibly leech off of.

In fact, I'll go as far as to say I actively do not like doing dungeons any more. I maybe even hate them. I have run Fungal Grotto 1 hundreds of times. Possibly over a thousand. The only reason I'm running it again is to farm new gear to use on a new class in content I'll actually enjoy.

So... yeah, as far as those feelings go I actively do not want a tank. I want another DPS. Heck, I'll throw the healer out and take two.
I promise I am not alone in these thoughts. That's exactly why we have a fake tank problem.

You want the fake tank problem to go away? Quit incentivizing players like me to go back to random dungeons. If we want to go we'll go. If we don't, then some of us are going to impact everyone else.

Tallon_IV

Ittrix wrote: »

I'd like to preface this by saying I do not act on these feelings, and I do very strongly wish they either didn't exist or I didn't get put in the same place as people with conflicting ones.
I'm a tank main. When I tank dungeons I do it at a fair pace and try to include everyone. The only scenario I fake tank in is with a premade group of friends who are already okay with it.
However...

I can solo every normal dungeon. I can likely solo the vast majority of veteran vanilla dungeons. I only queue up to get transmutes and because every extra player queueing with me is an extra loot drop I can possibly leech off of.

In fact, I'll go as far as to say I actively do not like doing dungeons any more. I maybe even hate them. I have run Fungal Grotto 1 hundreds of times. Possibly over a thousand. The only reason I'm running it again is to farm new gear to use on a new class in content I'll actually enjoy.

So... yeah, as far as those feelings go I actively do not want a tank. I want another DPS. Heck, I'll throw the healer out and take two.
I promise I am not alone in these thoughts. That's exactly why we have a fake tank problem.

You want the fake tank problem to go away? Quit incentivizing players like me to go back to random dungeons. If we want to go we'll go. If we don't, then some of us are going to impact everyone else.

At risk of going a bit off topic, what do you run to be able to solo vet?

Ittrix

Tallon_IV wrote: »

At risk of going a bit off topic, what do you run to be able to solo vet?

I have a magblade, so if I'm alone I tend to slot swallow soul in as a spammable. I usually have leeching on, so that helps too. Outside of that I just run what I always do. Nothing particularly survival oriented.

I'd say something like veteran maelstrom is harder for me to live through than the veteran vanilla dungeons. I'd prefer a group and it'd be faster with a group, but I can do it.


I don't mean to brag or anything. It's just to say that there's enough of us out there who are bored of a lot of dungeon content, and we've all got a lot of incentive to fake tank. Some of us are gonna.