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Force players into something they absolutely HATE

Aerin
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I freakin' need to level up my skills, Horn and Barrier. I know damn well I'll need these skills for my PVE-only playstyle, but guess what? I'm forced to dive headfirst into PVP for this garbage. I loathe PVP, I mean, I seriously, really, utterly hate PVP in ESO. You have no freakin' clue how this crap drives me up the wall, and I'm itching to unleash a whole string of expletives because of it.

Put an end to this madness, [snip]! This isn't fun for those of us who abso-freakin'-lutely HATE PVP. Sure, some folks might enjoy it, whatever! But for the rest of us, we're livid. Stop this insanity, for the love of all that's holy!!!!! We need some other damn way to acquire those skills without having to endure PVP. We couldn't care less about PVP; we despise it, but we damn well need those skills.

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I'm stuck doing these damn battlegrounds every single day, just hoping to get EXP. But here's the kicker: My team has to be TOP1 or TOP2 to even stand a chance at getting the experience. Are you kidding me? STOP THIS [snip] MADNESS! It's driving me insane!

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[edited for bashing & profanity bypass]
Edited by ZOS_Icy on February 3, 2024 11:33AM
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  • Aerin
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    ZDunlain wrote: »
    "...If you are annoyed, just join a zerg and eazy way to get that done.
    oO?! Join what?!


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  • M_Volsung
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    I've been in cyrodil exactly three times, going after the skyshards...

    Now that I've done that and can use crowns to get the shards for any other characters I may decide to make, that place may as well no longer exist as far as I'm concerned.
    "In the Deep Halls, Far from Men;
    Forsaken Red Mountain, Twisted Kin;
    Hail the Mind, Hail the Stone;
    Dwarven Pride, Stronger than Bone"

    —Dwemer Inquiries I-III, Thelwe Ghelein
  • Ardriel
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    I hate pvp too. Still, I got all my tanks and healers and even a lot of dps on all 4 accounts to alliance level 6 in Cyrodiil without any problems. Many times it was even really fun. Just give it a try. Believe me, even if you don't have a skill for pvp. If you are in a good group in Cyro and it goes well, you will enjoy it. All you need to do is to find groups. ;) I leveled up the latest healer/tank with battlegrounds, which was also pretty easy. I took advantage of these bg weekends.
  • Aerin
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    What does this have to do with the PTS?

    PTS stands for Public Test Server.

    Asking for changes requires testing them first on the PTS, doesn't it?
    Anyway, today is done, and tomorrow will bring another round of the same old routine.
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  • Aerin
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    mercer_cap wrote: »
    You sir, did never play PvP if you are able to type this. PvP is all about the challenge and difficulty of playing against someone else with skill who is also unpredictable. Those in PvP zones who enjoy zerging are the same who enjoy killing overland mobs: the won't care about challenge.

    I never play PvP in ESO because, frankly, this isn't PvP:
    Aerin wrote: »
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    Edited by Aerin on February 3, 2024 9:42AM
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  • Aerin
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    zammo wrote: »
    Aerin wrote: »
    mercer_cap wrote: »
    What does this have to do with the PTS?

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    Perhaps my approach stems from growing weary of ESO's insistence on forcing players into false PVP scenarios just to cater to those who genuinely enjoy it.

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on February 3, 2024 11:49AM
    Necromancer in ESO = Thanks for your help! Now, pay the bounty for using your necromancer skills to make quests and for being foolish enough to pay for this class!
  • Aerin
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    So you played 1 match?.. I mean c'mon, you've never had a bad dungeon pug that took an hour to complete where you did 80% of the dps as a healer? Have some self awareness.

    I did 5 match, because my team has to hit TOP1 or TOP2 just to check off some daily task. It's absolute madness! Forcing players like me, who loathe PvP with every fiber of their being, to sweat it out in battlegrounds just to access skills for PvE is beyond ridiculous. It makes me sick to my stomach. I despise this game for making me endure such torment. Words can't even begin to describe how utterly infuriating this situation is. Do you honestly believe this is fun? Because let me tell you, it's anything but...
    Edited by Aerin on February 3, 2024 9:54AM
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  • Turtle_Bot
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    Aerin wrote: »
    So you played 1 match?.. I mean c'mon, you've never had a bad dungeon pug that took an hour to complete where you did 80% of the dps as a healer? Have some self awareness.

    I did 5 match, because my team has to hit TOP1 or TOP2 just to check off some daily task. It's absolute madness! Forcing players like me, who loathe PvP with every fiber of their being, to sweat it out in battlegrounds just to access skills for PvE is beyond ridiculous. It makes me sick to my stomach. I despise this game for making me endure such torment. Words can't even begin to describe how utterly infuriating this situation is. Do you honestly believe this is fun? Because let me tell you, it's anything but...

    You don't have to do battlegrounds to level those skill lines and are certainly NOT being forced to do them to level those skill lines.

    As I and others have mentioned, you can do quests in the cyrodiil towns, repair keep walls/doors, do the starting quest in cyrodiil (that levels you most of the way to those skills on its own without even leaving the starting base) to gain more than enough AP to get those skills, 99.9% of the time you also won't even see an enemy player, especially if you join a map where your faction controls the entire map and the enemy factions have no populations.
  • Aerin
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    jlats wrote: »
    Aerin wrote: »
    zammo wrote: »
    Aerin wrote: »
    mercer_cap wrote: »
    What does this have to do with the PTS?

    [snip]

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    Perhaps my approach stems from growing weary of ESO's insistence on forcing players into false PVP scenarios just to cater to those who genuinely enjoy it.

    Imagine thinking ZOS cater to PVP players, big lol

    No? So what's the logic behind forcing players who hate PVP into PVP zones to pick up skills used in PVE? If it's not to please those who play PVP, then it's just to annoy those who only want to play PVE.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on February 3, 2024 11:50AM
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  • Aerin
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    Turtle_Bot wrote: »
    No, it is to encourage all players to at least try all content in the game at a very basic level.

    I understand that and I might even agree. If the idea is to encourage players to enjoy other aspects of the game and to introduce them to the various facets of PVP, forcing them to engage in PVP in order to finish at the top only achieves the complete opposite and only breeds more anger and dissatisfaction.
    Edited by Aerin on February 3, 2024 10:42AM
    Necromancer in ESO = Thanks for your help! Now, pay the bounty for using your necromancer skills to make quests and for being foolish enough to pay for this class!
  • Turtle_Bot
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    Aerin wrote: »
    Turtle_Bot wrote: »
    No, it is to encourage all players to at least try all content in the game at a very basic level.

    I understand that and I might even agree. If the idea is to encourage players to enjoy other aspects of the game and to introduce them to the various facets of PVP, forcing them to engage in PVP in order to finish at the top only achieves the complete opposite and only breeds more anger and dissatisfaction.

    and I will repeat, you are not forced to do battlegrounds to level those skill lines.
    Turtle_Bot wrote: »
    As I and others have mentioned, you can do quests in the cyrodiil towns, repair keep walls/doors, do the starting quest in cyrodiil (that levels you most of the way to those skills on its own without even leaving the starting base) to gain more than enough AP to get those skills, 99.9% of the time you also won't even see an enemy player, especially if you join a map where your faction controls the entire map and the enemy factions have no populations.

    This will gain you more than enough AP to level those skill lines and if you go to campaigns where your faction owns the map, it is like a 99.9% chance that you won't even see an enemy player the whole time.
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