Making money - how are you all so rich!?

EF321 · January 4

Billium813 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

Daily Writs don't make that much money IMO. People saying that are doing 20+ characters every day and selling mats (gold/pot mats), which I said I try to not do. I also only have 4 characters total. I do all the writs cause it's nice mats, but I don't sell what I get and the Gold you get is mediocre at best (ZOS economy).

Why don't you sell the mats you get from doing daily writs? Players can make a LOT of gold doing this and it doesn't have to be done on 20 characters. I made a lot when I was doing this on 4 characters. Now I have 7 and am doing even better. And the gold it brings in is far from mediocre.

I never sell mats (Dragon mats being the exception, from time to time, thx to the Dragonguard Supply Chest and the fact that I just never use them). If you sell mats, you will end up losing more money in the long run buying mats back when you inevitably need them again in the future. You're robbing Peter to pay Paul, it'll catch up with you eventually.

This makes no sense. Why would you be buying them back if you are making them? Just stop selling for a couple of days when you need them for yourself, or better save some in advance, before you need it.

Trier_Sero · January 4

Daily crafting writs on 20 chars, selling gold mats and alchemy mats, makes me about 5kk a week.
Also sell alchemy, provisioning and enchanting master writs and do other ones. Buy attunable crafting stations for writ vouchers and sell them. Makes, I would say, about 10kk a month. That's in PC-EU prices.
And there is also 100k a day from dailies.

Aurielle · January 4

If I ever dip below 1 million gold, I spend a maximum of 30 mins to one hour farming Craglorn nodes per play session. Each potent nirncrux guarantees 100k gold via trader, and the fortified nirns net around 12k. Sometimes I don’t get a single potent nirn in a farming session, sometimes I get 2-3 if RNGesus is smiling. Refining the mats acquired during the nirncrux hunt generates plenty of gold mats that can also be sold. If I’m really strapped for gold after housing related expenses, I also do daily crafting writs on all seven characters in addition to the above when I have enough time. Pretty easy to stay in excess of 1 million that way.

Northwold · January 4

I think one thing that hasn't been mention so far is perhaps too obvious. People spend A LOT of time playing the game.

karthrag_inak · January 4

Khajiit has what wealth he does because he has spent a bit of time doing daily crafting writs.

Billium813 · January 4

EF321 wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

Daily Writs don't make that much money IMO. People saying that are doing 20+ characters every day and selling mats (gold/pot mats), which I said I try to not do. I also only have 4 characters total. I do all the writs cause it's nice mats, but I don't sell what I get and the Gold you get is mediocre at best (ZOS economy).

Why don't you sell the mats you get from doing daily writs? Players can make a LOT of gold doing this and it doesn't have to be done on 20 characters. I made a lot when I was doing this on 4 characters. Now I have 7 and am doing even better. And the gold it brings in is far from mediocre.

I never sell mats (Dragon mats being the exception, from time to time, thx to the Dragonguard Supply Chest and the fact that I just never use them). If you sell mats, you will end up losing more money in the long run buying mats back when you inevitably need them again in the future. You're robbing Peter to pay Paul, it'll catch up with you eventually.

This makes no sense. Why would you be buying them back if you are making them? Just stop selling for a couple of days when you need them for yourself, or better save some in advance, before you need it.

The amount of mats you get is a trickle compared to what you need. You make it sound like these players that sell their mats have advanced planning too. It doesn't just take "a couple days" to get 50 Columbine, or 100 Heartwood, or 56 Dreugh Wax. Players sell Heartwood, Columbine, Bugloss, Corn Flower, Decorative Wax, Mundane Rune, Tempering Alloy, Dreugh Wax, but they don't get as many as they will end up needing later. AND you end up needing lots of these items in combination, so beware selling something cause you're just gonna need it later and itll suck when you have to wait a month to save up what you need.

Take Heartwood for example. A player that sells the 2-3 they get each day for 3k each will be sorely disappointed in 6 months when they get a nice big house, start to do late game furnishing, and realize they need 1000+. But now, 6 months later, they cost 8k in Guild Traders... It's the same thing with Tempers and pot mats. Players sell them cause they don't need them right now, but in 3 months, they just end up needing them NOW and having to purchase as a rate MORE then they sold them for.

SmellyUnlimited · January 4

Very true. I went through a period after restarting the game where I crafted a ton of equipment for myself, and I quickly realized all the mats I’d been saving were not enough. When the next expansion drops it’ll likely be the same thing all over again. I have no interest in housing furnishments so yesterday (at the group’s suggestion) I sold all my mundane runes/heartwood etc. for a solid profit.

I honestly don’t know how people sell so many alchemy mats when I seem to go through them pretty darn fast.

SmellyUnlimited · January 4

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Khajiit has what wealth he does because he has spent a bit of time doing daily crafting writs.

My god. That’s just one character’s worth??

Danikat · January 4

In 2021 I got the full Hollowjack motif book from a Witches Festival Writ and even though the individual pages were very cheap apparently there are collectors who buy the full books for huge amounts of gold - I sold that one for about 8 million.

But that can't be the whole story because that was a couple of years ago and I've still got about 7 million in the bank and there's been times when I spend a lot (for me - several thousand gold) and then get it back again.

Part of it is just that I don't buy much. I've been playing since 2015 and other than writs I don't craft much so materials have been slowly building up so I never buy them and often sell extras on my guild store. I was buying lots of motifs but that's slowed down since I got Master Crafter, I only buy ones I need for master-writs or very occasionally a 'must have' one for a character to actually use (normally I can find something good from my existing collection), Other than that and maybe furniture there's not really anything for me to spend gold on.

Daily crafting writs definitely help, and being in a guild with a trader. I never farm stuff to sell and most of what I do sell isn't that valuable (a few hundred gold at most), it's just spare recipes and motifs, inspiration items for crafting and spare materials, but that also means it's pretty much free gold, it only requires the time it takes me to list it.

I do think stealing is a good income for new players - it's something you can do on any character right from level 1 without needing a build or gear or knowing the best spots (some places are better than others, but you can do it anywhere there's stealable items) and without really being in competition with other players because the contents of the containers are different for everyone so it's probably the easiest profitable activity to get started on. Later on it's probably not worth the time, but I bought my first medium house mostly with stolen gold.

freespirit · January 4

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

Very true. I went through a period after restarting the game where I crafted a ton of equipment for myself, and I quickly realized all the mats I’d been saving were not enough. When the next expansion drops it’ll likely be the same thing all over again. I have no interest in housing furnishments so yesterday (at the group’s suggestion) I sold all my mundane runes/heartwood etc. for a solid profit.

I honestly don’t know how people sell so many alchemy mats when I seem to go through them pretty darn fast.

With selling any mat, I have my craft bag and I set myself "numbers per mat" that I am not willing to drop below but will happily sell any amount over the number I have decided on.

I love my houses so I don't generally sell anything that can be used in crafting furniture, everything else is fair game.

I do crafting dailies on 9 characters per day, so I get lots of nice mats from those plus surveys, loads of surveys!!

I have large numbers of surveys stashed, when I feel I need a quick infusion of cash(usually whilst on a new decorating project) I just do a few and sell some of the drops.

A quick example...... I recently did 24 Clothier surveys, that was half of what I had for for one particular zone, ofc I have the "plentiful harvest" cp perk slotted, I ended up with between 7000-8000 raw mats(I had a few already) which I refined and got 52 dreugh wax!

On PC-EU that's a very easy million gold without even touching my craft bag reserves and I can honestly say the only materials I ever buy are related to housing because I am too damn lazy to farm them myself!!

adirondack · January 4

ESO economy is weird. Demand and supply both continue to increase and amount of funds also perpetually increasing. It’s inflationary in the extreme. But it’s a game - a model - where there are no finite resources to temper demand.

It’s been mentioned in several replies and true in the real world also - time matters. In both RL and in game the amount of time spent is the single greatest indicator of financial success.

I’d recommend to be less concerned with comparing your available funds versus another person and instead focus on enjoying the ride whenever possible. The journey remains far more satisfying than the destination.

True in game and RL. Don’t worry be happy.

SilverBride · January 4

Billium813 wrote: »

The amount of mats you get is a trickle compared to what you need. You make it sound like these players that sell their mats have advanced planning too. It doesn't just take "a couple days" to get 50 Columbine, or 100 Heartwood, or 56 Dreugh Wax. Players sell Heartwood, Columbine, Bugloss, Corn Flower, Decorative Wax, Mundane Rune, Tempering Alloy, Dreugh Wax, but they don't get as many as they will end up needing later. AND you end up needing lots of these items in combination, so beware selling something cause you're just gonna need it later and itll suck when you have to wait a month to save up what you need.

Take Heartwood for example. A player that sells the 2-3 they get each day for 3k each will be sorely disappointed in 6 months when they get a nice big house, start to do late game furnishing, and realize they need 1000+. But now, 6 months later, they cost 8k in Guild Traders... It's the same thing with Tempers and pot mats. Players sell them cause they don't need them right now, but in 3 months, they just end up needing them NOW and having to purchase as a rate MORE then they sold them for.

A player can acquire a lot of mats over a few days just doing the surveys they get from the daily writs. And not everyone is golding out gear sets all that frequently.

I don't sell Heartwood or Mundane Runes or other housing mats because I almost always have a decorating project going on and use them myself.

I spend about 30 minutes a day doing wits on 7 characters, so it's not a huge time commitment and I make a LOT of gold doing so. This is all I do to earn gold. I hate farming and never do it and just buy what I need when I need it.

I don't want to say exactly how much I have but it's been very profitable.

Billium813 · January 4

SilverBride wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

The amount of mats you get is a trickle compared to what you need. You make it sound like these players that sell their mats have advanced planning too. It doesn't just take "a couple days" to get 50 Columbine, or 100 Heartwood, or 56 Dreugh Wax. Players sell Heartwood, Columbine, Bugloss, Corn Flower, Decorative Wax, Mundane Rune, Tempering Alloy, Dreugh Wax, but they don't get as many as they will end up needing later. AND you end up needing lots of these items in combination, so beware selling something cause you're just gonna need it later and itll suck when you have to wait a month to save up what you need.

Take Heartwood for example. A player that sells the 2-3 they get each day for 3k each will be sorely disappointed in 6 months when they get a nice big house, start to do late game furnishing, and realize they need 1000+. But now, 6 months later, they cost 8k in Guild Traders... It's the same thing with Tempers and pot mats. Players sell them cause they don't need them right now, but in 3 months, they just end up needing them NOW and having to purchase as a rate MORE then they sold them for.

A player can acquire a lot of mats over a few days just doing the surveys they get from the daily writs. And not everyone is golding out gear sets all that frequently.

I don't sell Heartwood or Mundane Runes or other housing mats because I almost always have a decorating project going on and use them myself.

I spend about 30 minutes a day doing wits on 7 characters, so it's not a huge time commitment and I make a LOT of gold doing so. This is all I do to earn gold. I hate farming and never do it and just buy what I need when I need it.

I don't want to say exactly how much I have but it's been very profitable.

SilverBride wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

Daily Writs don't make that much money IMO. People saying that are doing 20+ characters every day and selling mats (gold/pot mats), which I said I try to not do. I also only have 4 characters total. I do all the writs cause it's nice mats, but I don't sell what I get and the Gold you get is mediocre at best (ZOS economy).

Why don't you sell the mats you get from doing daily writs? Players can make a LOT of gold doing this and it doesn't have to be done on 20 characters. I made a lot when I was doing this on 4 characters. Now I have 7 and am doing even better. And the gold it brings in is far from mediocre.

So, you don't sell the mats that matter to you, yet question why I don't sell all of mine? I gold out gear, I furnish several homes, I craft 4 different pots for PvE & PvP. I use most of the mats I get.

I have 4 characters and do my writs everyday. Doing crafting writs on 4 characters nets me ~20k Gold; that's 4.9k Gold per character. I make 600k+ gold per day selling crafted goods in Guild Traders, that takes me 10 minute to make... define "a LOT of gold" for me. I don't have to burn an hour a day and 18000 crowns on 20 alt character slots that exist only for 4 minutes per day and take character names from other players either. I don't sell my crafting mats, I end up using them. I never have to buy mats from Guild Traders either. Why would I want to sell my mats and have to buy them again later at a higher cost? Why should I spend an hour a day grinding writs on 8 characters I care nothing for just to make 40k Gold a day? I make more then that from selling the motif pages I get from running daily pledges...

Again, there are tons of ways to make gold in this game. Several have been highlighted here. The easiest and most brain dead one in selling your writ mats. I personally think that is a poor avenue with too many trade-offs. Everyone obviously has to weight there own game desires, but I just caution that someday you may want that Heartwood you sold 6 months ago, or the Columbine you sold last month when you weren't running Trials with friends. I'm selling nothing I care about, nor will want later and I'm making 10x the profit while also having to spend nothing myself. But you do you.

valenwood_vegan · January 4

I mean I WILL do me - I don't see the need for getting borderline hostile about it. My nine-digit bank account after several years of this suggests that doing writs and selling the excess mats (particularly at times of high demand) generates a great deal of gold over time. I have never had to buy mats to replace the ones I've sold. Ever. I set a minimum amount and only sell if I've gone over that. I will happily continue in my brain-dead methods!

But hey, I don't mean to be argumentative - there are many other ways to make gold, some of which have been pointed out here. Each player has to figure out what they enjoy doing / the time they have / what their goal is.

(And of course not 100% of my gold came from writs and mats - occasionally one hits the rng jackpot with a furnishing plan or a valuable motif or style page for example... but things like this can't necessarily be relied upon on a regular basis).

And the point that one shouldn't blindly sell all their mats just for quick gold, well that's a great point worth repeating. I would absolutely also advise that one not sell what they might need later just for the sake of amassing some quick gold, unless there's a specific and urgent need for it.

SilverBride · January 4

Billium813 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

The amount of mats you get is a trickle compared to what you need. You make it sound like these players that sell their mats have advanced planning too. It doesn't just take "a couple days" to get 50 Columbine, or 100 Heartwood, or 56 Dreugh Wax. Players sell Heartwood, Columbine, Bugloss, Corn Flower, Decorative Wax, Mundane Rune, Tempering Alloy, Dreugh Wax, but they don't get as many as they will end up needing later. AND you end up needing lots of these items in combination, so beware selling something cause you're just gonna need it later and itll suck when you have to wait a month to save up what you need.

Take Heartwood for example. A player that sells the 2-3 they get each day for 3k each will be sorely disappointed in 6 months when they get a nice big house, start to do late game furnishing, and realize they need 1000+. But now, 6 months later, they cost 8k in Guild Traders... It's the same thing with Tempers and pot mats. Players sell them cause they don't need them right now, but in 3 months, they just end up needing them NOW and having to purchase as a rate MORE then they sold them for.

A player can acquire a lot of mats over a few days just doing the surveys they get from the daily writs. And not everyone is golding out gear sets all that frequently.

I don't sell Heartwood or Mundane Runes or other housing mats because I almost always have a decorating project going on and use them myself.

I spend about 30 minutes a day doing wits on 7 characters, so it's not a huge time commitment and I make a LOT of gold doing so. This is all I do to earn gold. I hate farming and never do it and just buy what I need when I need it.

I don't want to say exactly how much I have but it's been very profitable.

SilverBride wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

Daily Writs don't make that much money IMO. People saying that are doing 20+ characters every day and selling mats (gold/pot mats), which I said I try to not do. I also only have 4 characters total. I do all the writs cause it's nice mats, but I don't sell what I get and the Gold you get is mediocre at best (ZOS economy).

Why don't you sell the mats you get from doing daily writs? Players can make a LOT of gold doing this and it doesn't have to be done on 20 characters. I made a lot when I was doing this on 4 characters. Now I have 7 and am doing even better. And the gold it brings in is far from mediocre.

So, you don't sell the mats that matter to you, yet question why I don't sell all of mine? I gold out gear, I furnish several homes, I craft 4 different pots for PvE & PvP. I use most of the mats I get.

I have 4 characters and do my writs everyday. Doing crafting writs on 4 characters nets me ~20k Gold; that's 4.9k Gold per character. I make 600k+ gold per day selling crafted goods in Guild Traders, that takes me 10 minute to make... define "a LOT of gold" for me. I don't have to burn an hour a day and 18000 crowns on 20 alt character slots that exist only for 4 minutes per day and take character names from other players either. I don't sell my crafting mats, I end up using them. I never have to buy mats from Guild Traders either. Why would I want to sell my mats and have to buy them again later at a higher cost? Why should I spend an hour a day grinding writs on 8 characters I care nothing for just to make 40k Gold a day? I make more then that from selling the motif pages I get from running daily pledges...

Again, there are tons of ways to make gold in this game. Several have been highlighted here. The easiest and most brain dead one in selling your writ mats. I personally think that is a poor avenue with too many trade-offs. Everyone obviously has to weight there own game desires, but I just caution that someday you may want that Heartwood you sold 6 months ago, or the Columbine you sold last month when you weren't running Trials with friends. I'm selling nothing I care about, nor will want later and I'm making 10x the profit while also having to spend nothing myself. But you do you.

I am giving my experience, which is that I do writs on 7 characters a day and sell the gold crafting mats I get from them. I also sell some blue and purple mats but the profit is in the gold ones. I sell a stack of alchemy mats whenever I have 300 or more saved and keep 100 for my own use. And I toss in some other items as I find them, such as trait style mats, but it's not very many or very often.

I also decon all the gear I find from dungeons and the Infinite Archive and World Bosses, etc. unless it's a piece that sells for more than 5k, and get crafting mats from these, too.

And to clarify, the money from writs isn't the small amount of gold we get from turning these in. It's the gold we make from selling the mats we get from doing them.

Maybe this seems like a brain dead way to make gold to some, but I think of it as a smart use of my game time.

When I say I make a lot of gold doing this it's because I went from having 100k in my bank before I started trading to now having multiple millions just doing the things I mentioned.

freespirit · January 4

In 6 months time I will have amassed even more materials and surveys, so what I sell now will be by that point absolutely irrelevent and as I said I always keep a bufffer for my own personal use anyway.

I also happen to really enjoy ToT and often play sets of NPC dailies on multiple characters, which has the by product of gradually increasing all my material stocks. If I am not currently decorating the increase in furnishing mats is especially pleasing, I am playing cards because I enjoy it btw not for the rewards, they are just a nice bonus!

EF321 · January 4

Billium813 wrote: »

EF321 wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Billium813 wrote: »

Daily Writs don't make that much money IMO. People saying that are doing 20+ characters every day and selling mats (gold/pot mats), which I said I try to not do. I also only have 4 characters total. I do all the writs cause it's nice mats, but I don't sell what I get and the Gold you get is mediocre at best (ZOS economy).

Why don't you sell the mats you get from doing daily writs? Players can make a LOT of gold doing this and it doesn't have to be done on 20 characters. I made a lot when I was doing this on 4 characters. Now I have 7 and am doing even better. And the gold it brings in is far from mediocre.

I never sell mats (Dragon mats being the exception, from time to time, thx to the Dragonguard Supply Chest and the fact that I just never use them). If you sell mats, you will end up losing more money in the long run buying mats back when you inevitably need them again in the future. You're robbing Peter to pay Paul, it'll catch up with you eventually.

This makes no sense. Why would you be buying them back if you are making them? Just stop selling for a couple of days when you need them for yourself, or better save some in advance, before you need it.

The amount of mats you get is a trickle compared to what you need. You make it sound like these players that sell their mats have advanced planning too. It doesn't just take "a couple days" to get 50 Columbine, or 100 Heartwood, or 56 Dreugh Wax. Players sell Heartwood, Columbine, Bugloss, Corn Flower, Decorative Wax, Mundane Rune, Tempering Alloy, Dreugh Wax, but they don't get as many as they will end up needing later. AND you end up needing lots of these items in combination, so beware selling something cause you're just gonna need it later and itll suck when you have to wait a month to save up what you need.

Take Heartwood for example. A player that sells the 2-3 they get each day for 3k each will be sorely disappointed in 6 months when they get a nice big house, start to do late game furnishing, and realize they need 1000+. But now, 6 months later, they cost 8k in Guild Traders... It's the same thing with Tempers and pot mats. Players sell them cause they don't need them right now, but in 3 months, they just end up needing them NOW and having to purchase as a rate MORE then they sold them for.

You said you only have 4 characters, of course it will be a trickle

Try 20, it's a very different number.
I got 25 or so wax today between writ rewards, hirelings and today's surveys. Now imagine if you do this for some time, eventually you'll have no use for it, but just sell.

amapola76 · January 4

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this, but don't sleep on daily rewards. True, you're not going to get rich on 5k or 10k here and there, but if you consistently pick up those nice little bumps, and look out for the $100k gold monthly reward a couple of times a year, it does add up over time, when combined with all the other things folks have mentioned, plus spending moderately.

Much like saving for big goals in real life, even a relatively small unexpected gift can put you in the right frame of mind to be motivated to save even more. Like if you're thinking, "I'll never be able to afford a down payment for a house, so why bother trying," but then your great-aunt dies and leaves you $500, or you win $100 in a random contest. Suddenly you have the tiniest amount of savings, and it gives you the psychological boost to keep saving here and there where you can, and over time, it snowballs.

gariondavey · January 4

Daily writs and hirlings on 7 characters
Collecting all surveys on my max level crafter

This alone has earned me over 200m gold in value (according to lazy writ) over the last 3 years

On top of that I do small scale ic for fun with friends in the evenings, so selling tri stat glyphs is absurdly easy gold. 1 ic daily quest per day results in 800k gold after 50 days, and doing one of the quests only takes 2 minutes.

I also will spend my alliance points on gear boxes or rings and then re-sell those in my trade guild.

There are other things like the alchemy chest in elsweyr in the dragonguard base that you can get each day or something like that (which is likely worth thousands or more each day) but you need to do a bunch of daily quests to unlock that, which seems awful to me so I haven't done that.

I've spent probably 150m gold or something like that on buying all the motifs in game, and also a lot of gold for all the dlc and many of the crown cosmetic things via gold for crowns. I usually sit around 30m gold with 1m telvar and 10m AP.

Long story short, 20 minutes of writs + hirlings a day is really all I do for "grinding", and you can always do those while you listen to a YouTube video or talk on voice with friends. The rest of the gold I make is just a byproduct of pvping (which is why I actually play the game).

EF321 · January 4

Also, I don't think anyone mentioned yet buying low and selling high?

karthrag_inak · January 4

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Khajiit has what wealth he does because he has spent a bit of time doing daily crafting writs.

My god. That’s just one character’s worth??

Khajiit's account has been full of 7 prof master crafters since 2017. So that's on whatever number or characters were available at the time.

katanagirl1 · January 5

Billium813 wrote: »

TaSheen wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

The biggest reason players build wealth in-game is because they do not spend it Willie Nillie.

Well.... honestly....

There's not much to actually SPEND it on, ain't?

1000% true. There aren't enough gold sinks in the game IMO. The Guild Trader economy totally eclipses the ZOS economy. Once you are making millions, the only thing left is either to start a Guild (burn Gold) or buy crowns

Not true for me. Housing eats up a ton of gold for furnishing plans.

fred4 · January 5

In no particular order:

One guy, possibly a server transfer / streamer in a hurry to get to a BG , once paid me 2.5M to craft him New Moon Accolyte. Another paid me 2.3M to level him from 1 to 50 in 90 minutes, in Blackrose Prison.
I once sold a Baron Zaudrus Mask page for 5M. I hear they're 21M now, if you saved one.
I sell all Dreugh Wax and some Chromium, because I think it's pointless to use yourself, especially the former. I have 9 characters to do daily writs with and generate that stuff, if need be.
I'm an opportunistic Tel Var farmer. A boss, soloed under favorable conditions, yields about 10K Tel Var = 100K gold for 5 minutes of work. You got to like IC and be competent at PvP, or at least competent at bringing Tel Var home, for this. There are various things you can buy with Tel Var and sell, notably Hakeijo.
Since I think most motifs look like garbage, I sell most of them, especially new expensive ones at the beginning of an event.
I bought jewelry crafting writs before the jewelry plating and writ changes, making a once off gain on writ vouchers.
I sell excess alchemy reagents I don't need for my builds.
I convert AP into gold. These days the reliable bet is probably selling Dawn Prism.

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vsrs_au · January 5

gariondavey wrote: »

Daily writs and hirlings on 7 characters
Collecting all surveys on my max level crafter

This alone has earned me over 200m gold in value (according to lazy writ) over the last 3 years

On top of that I do small scale ic for fun with friends in the evenings, so selling tri stat glyphs is absurdly easy gold. 1 ic daily quest per day results in 800k gold after 50 days, and doing one of the quests only takes 2 minutes.

I also will spend my alliance points on gear boxes or rings and then re-sell those in my trade guild.

There are other things like the alchemy chest in elsweyr in the dragonguard base that you can get each day or something like that (which is likely worth thousands or more each day) but you need to do a bunch of daily quests to unlock that, which seems awful to me so I haven't done that.

I've spent probably 150m gold or something like that on buying all the motifs in game, and also a lot of gold for all the dlc and many of the crown cosmetic things via gold for crowns. I usually sit around 30m gold with 1m telvar and 10m AP.

Long story short, 20 minutes of writs + hirlings a day is really all I do for "grinding", and you can always do those while you listen to a YouTube video or talk on voice with friends. The rest of the gold I make is just a byproduct of pvping (which is why I actually play the game).

I'm happy to hear that!

Several months ago, I got my 7 alt characters (created around June/July?) to level 50 in all 7 crafts, then I realised that the hireling mails contained a mix of low-level and top-level materials, because the alts were still nowhere near character level 50. This meant I was slowly running out of the materials I used in the daily writs. So my next goal became to level up the alts to character level 50, which thanks to the New Life event, I managed today. So now I can enjoy the benefits of daily crafting writs on 8 characters, including my grand master crafter main character (with a minimum of farming to keep up certain material amounts). Looking forward to it!

FrancisCrawford · January 5

Hirelings are underrated.

They require the investment of leveling your crafting skills, and consume skill points besides. But the former happens cheaply if you're killing and looting things anyway, and the latter can be mitigated via the armory system.

The other problem, of course, is that you only get hireling emals if you load your character, which can be painfully slow.

In general, all ways of making gold have the drawback of requiring that you sit through loading screens.

SilverBride · January 5

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Hirelings are underrated.

They require the investment of leveling your crafting skills, and consume skill points besides. But the former happens cheaply if you're killing and looting things anyway, and the latter can be mitigated via the armory system.

The other problem, of course, is that you only get hireling emals if you load your character, which can be painfully slow.

In general, all ways of making gold have the drawback of requiring that you sit through loading screens.

Not everyone has very long loading screens.

Wildberryjack · January 5

Crafting mats. I make bank on selling crafting mats, especially for alchemy.

SpiritofESO · January 9

AvalonRanger · January 12

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

I regularly see people with millions of gold, and I’m wondering, do I simply not have a head for business? I make what scratch I can by selling any motifs I come across, or crafting writs, and maybe the odd weapon or jewelry I’m lucky enough to come by. But what really is the key to success here?

I’ve got about $400k to my name, but that’s because I really only ever buy mats to improve stuff, which is even then is pretty cost prohibitive. I’m not asking for you all to pierce the corporate veil on ALL your money making knowhow, but what are some things I can do to get richer? My only motivation is being able to buy gear occasionally without having to farm for everything constantly. I’m in a trading guild, but it’s only $2k a week and I don’t think we even have a location. Otherwise the ones that are in prime spots are like $25k a week from what I understand; which I doubt I could sell enough to even make that worth my while.

"Making money - how are you all so rich!?"

My business style is very simple. (PC-NA)

1.Go to Bangkorai area.
Just pick up crafting material from field, and go to working bench with green crafting node "ON".
[Meticulous Disassembly (improving the chance of extracting tempers when deconstructing or refining)]
Or do the material survey.
https://www.tamrieltradecentre.com/

And sell gold material at the guild shop by the proper price.

2. Just sell all junk and motif which I got from dungeon and Trial.

3. Just sell extra set gear which I got from over land and Infinity Archive.

Just repeating those process through the 1 month. Then I get over 1,000,000 gold.